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ErikaH
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6 Mar 2024 14:17 |
Referring back to my posting of the 1959 ER, these are all the Robertsons listed for the district
NONE of them is at the same address as IDA MARY Alan Crawford Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia
Andrew Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Christina Isabel Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Elaine Esther Robertson***************same address as James Crawford Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia
Eva Francis Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Ida Mary Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia James Crawford Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia John Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia John Murray Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Judith Diane Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Kenneth Thomas Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Margaret Jean Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Martha Huntington Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Monica Catherine May Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Patricia Frances Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Peter Reginald Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Winnie Agnes Robertson Residence 1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia
The ONLY 'James' has a second forename, and is clearly not the man being sought
Name James C Robertson Birth Date 10 Apr 1916 Death Date 9 Jan 2005 Cemetery Belgian Gardens Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place Belgian Gardens, Townsville City, Queensland, Australia
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6 Mar 2024 14:01 |
CUMMINGS ERNEST JOHN CLA STOBIE M 1917 685 / 2 / 206
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH) CUMMINGS JOHN STOBIE M 1909 685 / 2 / 705
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH) CUMMINGS WILLIAM STOBIE STOBIE M 1911 685 / 1 / 104
ST GEORGE CUMMINGS MARY STOBIE STOBIE F 1913 685 / 2 / 607 ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
CUMMINGS ANN LEADBITTER************************ STOBIE F 1908 685 / 2 / 74 ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
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6 Mar 2024 13:15 |
Name Catherine Mcnaught Cummings Sex Female Father's Name Henry Black Cummings Mother's Name Catherine Stobie Event Type Baptism Event Date 08 Mar 1904 Event Place Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom
Birth CUMMINGS CATHERINE M'NAU STOBIE F 1903 685 / 1 / 489 ST GEORGE
Parents' marriage STOBIE CATHERINE CUMMINGS HENRY 1903 685 / 1 / 85 ST GEORGE
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6 Mar 2024 13:01 |
Sibling for the one I posted some time ago
ROBERTSON CATHERINE MCNOU F 1927 685 / 2 / 209 ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
Also registered Canongate
ROBERTSON CATHERINE MCNOU F 1927 685 / 3 / 377 CANONGATE
Several other Robertson/Cummings births in the St Andrew district within a viable time-scale, including
ROBERTSON HENDRY BLACK C M 1932 685 / 2 / 582 ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
Sadly...................... ROBERTSON HENRY BLACK C 0 CUMMINGS M 1933 685 / 2 / 330 ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
AND...................among others
ROBERTSON ANN LEADBETTER***************************************** F 1935 685 / 2 / 370 ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
PLUS...............
ROBERTSON HENRY BLACK C M 1943 685 / 2 / 1149 ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
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6 Mar 2024 12:53 |
Lisa - how do you know that James's wife was Ida Mary?
None of the records posted so far have shown them to be together.
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6 Mar 2024 11:37 |
Scotlands People show 2 birth entries with James Robertson+ MMN Cummings YOB search 1928-1929
ROBERTSON JAMES M 1928 685 / 2 / 727 ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH) NO IMAGE
ROBERTSON JAMES M 1928 685 / 3 / 1003 CANONGATE NO IMAGE
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Jink20
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6 Mar 2024 11:21 |
This may be of use to you if you do not have his service record:
Service records for more recent campaigns, including Korea, Malaya and Vietnam are still held by the Department of Defence. Records that are in the open access period can be obtained through the National Archives of Australia
https://reftracker.naa.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=06PostWarDefRef
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ErikaH
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6 Mar 2024 11:17 |
Ancestry tree for Colin Lyle Smith has record of only one sibling
Rita Isabel Smith Perry 1933–1993 BIRTH 27 JAN 1933 • Mackay, Queensland, Australia DEATH 29 AUG 1993 • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Aged 60 years; Date of Service - 1 Sept 1993. Buried with Colin Joseph Gleeson (first husband)
ADDED A second Ancestry tree shows ONLY the same two children for Smith/McGuffie.
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ErikaH
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6 Mar 2024 10:32 |
Name Teresa E McGuffie Marriage Date 1930***************NOT 1929 as per 'tree' on Ancestry Marriage Place Sydney, New South Wales Registration Date 1930 Registration Place Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Spouse Arthur W Smith Registration Number 111
First name(s) Theresa Ellen Mother's last name Dale Last name McGuffie State Queensland Registration year 1908 Country Australia Registration number 1909/004104 Record set Queensland Births 1829-1919 Birth date 11 Dec 1908 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Father's first name(s) Hugh Subcategory Civil Births Mother's first name(s) Sarah Jane
Name Theresa Ellen Smith Maiden Name McGuffie Gender Female Birth Date 11 Dec 1908 Birth Place Queensland, Australia Death Date 27 May 1980 Death Place Queensland, Australia Cemetery Mount Gravatt Cemetery and Crematorium Burial or Cremation Place Mount Gravatt, Brisbane City, Queensland, Australia Father Hugh McGuffie Mother Sarah Jane McGuffie Spouse Arthur William Smith Children Colin Lyle Smith
From find-a-grave
Family Members Parents
Hugh McGuffie 1869–1916
Sarah Jane Dale McGuffie 1872–1912
Spouse
PRIVATE Arthur William "Tom" Smith 1900–1973 (m. 1930)
Siblings
Elizabeth McGuffie Slade 1896–1975
Sarah Jane McGuffie Moodie 1898–1983
James McGuffie 1900–1934
Mary Agnes McGuffie Tappenden 1902–1980
Catherine Isabella McGuffie 1904–1904
Iris Agnus McGuffie Fraser 1907–1985
Children
Colin Lyle Smith unknown–1971 (Accidentally killed, aged 19) Commemorated alongside his grandmother, Elizabeth
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ErikaH
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6 Mar 2024 10:25 |
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Name Ida Mary Robertson Gender Female Residence Date 1959 Street Address 1 Nola Flats, 63 Strand Residence Place Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia Occupation Home Duties Electoral Register Number 6794
Name Ida Mary Robertson Death Age 74 Birth Date 18 Sep 1932 Death Date 22 Dec 2006 Burial Date 24 Feb 2007 Burial Cemetery MT Gravatt Cemetery Cemetery Plot CREMATORIUM-MEMORIAL-ROSE GARDEN - 9-28
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ErikaH
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6 Mar 2024 10:16 |
Ida Mary is not buried with James
He is in an Anzac grave.
No other Robertsons with the same reference as Ida
?? First name(s) James Destination place - country AUSTRALIA Last name Robertson Destination country Australia Gender Male Ship name Mooltan Birth year 1929 Ship official number 79866 Age 22 Ship registered tonnage 20952 Age as transcribed 22 Ship master's title Captain Occupation Farmworker Ship master's first name J K Departure day 6 Ship master's last name Peter Departure month 6 Shipping line P. & O. Departure year 1951 Number of passengers 1027 Departure port London Ship departure port LONDON Departure country England Ship destination port Brisbane Entry struck out N Ship destination country Australia Destination port Brisbane Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960 Destination Brisbane Category Travel & migration State or territory Queensland Subcategory Passenger Lists Country Australia
UK address: Smallholding, Sateford, EDINBURGH*******************************
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Mar 2024 10:14 |
Good info Argyll :-)
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ArgyllGran
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6 Mar 2024 09:47 |
Someone named Sean Leader has James on a private tree on Ancestry. Per Sean's tree, James had a spouse and two sons.
Sean doesn't give James's wife's name in his tree. However, apparently her parents were Arthur William Smith and Theresa Ellen McGuffe, who spent their whole lives in Queensland, married in 1929, and had several children.
Therefore, I assume James and Ida married in Australia.
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ArgyllGran
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6 Mar 2024 09:27 |
The family suggested by Shirley, featuring the middle name Mungall, is not the right one. Names and dates don't fit.
There is no marriage of a James Robertson to an Ida Mary in Scotland, England, or Wales.
It looks like they may have married in Australia.
The 17th Construction Squadron was in Vietnam in 1966-71. https://vwma.org.au/explore/units/825
Assuming "1st and 2nd Battalion" means battalions of the Royal Australian Regiment, the 1st battalion was in Korea 1952-54 , and the 2nd battalion 1953-54.
So presumably James had emigrated before 1952..
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ErikaH
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5 Mar 2024 22:50 |
The man’s parents were the ones who married in Edinburgh in 1926 as per info found on find-a-grave via Ancestry
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Mar 2024 22:46 |
Marriage
ROBERTSON JAMES MUNGALL HENNIGAN MARY O'D P 1950 647 / 26 HAMILTON
Birth ROBERTSON JAMES MUNGALL M 1928 627 / 339 CAMBUSLANG NO IMAGE
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ErikaH
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5 Mar 2024 22:05 |
OP’s post is merely a direct transcript of the gravestone. No idea what she is asking for………
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Mar 2024 21:55 |
Name Ida Mary Robertson Gender Female Birth Date 18 Sep 1932 Death Date 22 Dec 2006 Cemetery Mount Gravatt Cemetery and Crematorium Burial or Cremation Place Mount Gravatt, Brisbane City, Queensland, Australia Has Bio? N URL https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193696450/ida-mary-robertson
Ida Mary Robertson in the Brisbane, Australia Burials and Cremations, 1831-2023 Brisbane, Australia Burials and Cremations, 1831-2023 Add or update information Report a problem Detail Source Name Ida Mary Robertson Death Age 74 Birth Date 18 Sep 1932 Death Date 22 Dec 2006 Burial Date 24 Feb 2007 Burial Cemetery MT Gravatt Cemetery Cemetery Plot CREMATORIUM-MEMORIAL-ROSE GARDEN - 9-28 Cremated
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ErikaH
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5 Mar 2024 21:44 |
No second name on the man’s gravestone, or on his birth registration
Ida Mary is commemorated in the same cemetery
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Mar 2024 21:37 |
This looks like two of the children
ROBERTSON ROBINA MUNGALL F 1955 647 / 886 HAMILTON
And ROBERTSON HENRY M 1957 647 / 1017 HAMILTON
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