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grannyfranny
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20 Aug 2023 16:32 |
Message on my local Church FB page St James Ashworth.
'We have a lady trying to discover if there are any descendents of her great grandfather still living in the area. He was called Andrew Captain Lees, married to Martha Kaye and they lived at Yates Farm. He is buried in our churchyard.'
I've had a search and found the family at Yates Farm Ashworth/Birtle/Bamford, district of Heywood or Bury, and have the censuses for 81, 91, 01, 11.
Andrew was bap at St James Ashworth 9.5.1852 s of Peter and Rachel m to Martha Kay (no e) Jun 1876 Bury bur 16.5.1901 St James
The 1901 gives the best picture Andrew Lees b 1852 Ashworth, farmer Martha b 1851 Walmersley wife Joseph b 1877 Walmersley farmers son Annie b 1879 Walmersley dairymaid Mary b 1882 Ashworth cotton weaver Betsy b 1884 Ashworth '' Eliza b 1886 Ashworth '' Margaret b 1888 Ashworth ''
In 1939 Joseph is still at the farm, but I don't know if he married.
I'll message and see what the lady knows.
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 16:38 |
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Joseph Lees 12 Mar 1877 Male Dairy Farmer Single 35 1 Eliza Lees 16 Apr 1885 Female Dairy Farmer Single 35 2 John Lees Howarth 26 Aug 1919 Male Cowman & Farm Carter Single 35 3
Births Sep 1919 (>99%) Howarth John L Lees Bury 8c 854
Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%) Howarth James Bury 8c 867 Lees Betsy Bury 8c 867
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 16:41 |
1921 Census Of England & Wales Yates, Ainsworth, Birtle cum Bamford, Lancashire, England
Joseph Lees Head Male 1877 44 Walmersley, Lancashire, England Farmer Own Account Eliza Lees Sister Female 1885 36 Ashworth, Lancashire, England Home Duties - Betsey Howarth Sister Female 1883 37 Ashworth, Lancashire, England Home Duties
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 16:46 |
Howarth John Lees 26/08/1919 1992 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Bury, Lancashire, England
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 16:51 |
NO second forename for Andrew...............an addition of his own, perhaps..........
Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%) Kay Martha Bury 8c 644 Lees Andrew Bury 8c 644
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 16:53 |
Baptism: 14 Jun 1885 St James, Ashworth, Lancashire, England Eliza Lees - Daughter of Andrew Captain Lees & Martha Abode: Ashworth Occupation: Farmer Baptised by: F.E. Waldie Vicar Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1890, Page 57, Entry 453 Source: LDS Family Search
Baptism: 27 May 1888 St James, Ashworth, Lancashire, England Margaret Lees - Daughter of Andrew Captain Lees & Martha Born: 27 Feb 1888 Abode: Ashworth Occupation: Farmer Baptised by: Francis.E. Waldie Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1890, Page 78, Entry 707 Source: LDS Family Search
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 16:56 |
Name Margaret Lees Registration Year 1908] Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district Bury Inferred County Lancashire Volume 8c Page 745 Records on Page (Name) Thomas Helm
Name Margaret Helm Death Age 50 Birth Date abt 1888 Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun 1938 Registration district Haslingden Inferred County Lancashire Volume 8e Page 140
1921 Census Of England & Wales Riding, Cliviger, Lancashire, England Thomas Helm Head Male 1881 40 Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England Farmer Employer Margaret Helm Wife Female 1888 33 Ashworth, Lancashire, England Assisting On The Farm - Walter Helm Son Male 1909 11 Edenfield, Lancashire, England - - Harold Helm Nephew Male 1898 22 Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England Coal Getter, Collier Deerply Colliery Co, Bank, Out Of Work Eleanor Helm Daughter Female 1910 10 Edenfield, Lancashire, England - - Martha Helm Daughter Female 1913 8 Ashworth, Lancashire, England - - Thomas Helm Son Male 1921 - Cliviger, Lancashire, England - - John Connor Servant Male 1873 48 Ireland Farm Labourer Thomas Helen Farmer
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 16:57 |
Name Andrew Captain Lees Death Date 13 May 1901 Death Place Rochdale Probate Date 18 Jun 1901 Probate Registry Manchester, Chester, England Probate to Widow
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 16:59 |
1939 Register Windle Barn, Heywood, Heywood M.B., Lancashire, England John Fenton 13 Apr 1869 Male Farmer (Stock Rearer) Married 33 1 Annie Fenton 24 Jun 1878 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 33 2
Name Annie Fenton Death Date 10 Jun 1942 Cemetery St James Churchyard Burial or Cremation Place Heywood, Metropolitan Borough of Rochdale, Greater Manchester, England Spouse John Fenton
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 17:00 |
As you will be aware, the best way to look for living connections on here is to use the 'search all member trees' facility.
The chances of anyone connected being active on GR are minimal..........at best
Alternatively, search the ER's and BT Phone Book..
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 17:01 |
1921 Census Of England & Wales Windle Meadow, Birtle cum Bamford, Lancashire, England
John Fenton Head Male 1869 52 Heywood, Lancashire, England Farmer Employer Annie Fenton Wife Female 1878 43 Bury, Lancashire, England Home Duties - Mary Whittaker Aunt Female 1847 73 Bury, Lancashire, England - - John Lees Howarth Nephew Male 1919 1 Rochdale, Lancashire, England - -
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 17:04 |
Name Mary Haworth Age in 1911 29 Estimated Birth Year abt 1882 Relation to Head Wife Gender Female Birth Place Ashworth, Lancashire, England Civil parish Norden County/Island Lancashire Country England Street Address Lower Red Lumb Norden Marital Status Married Registration District Number 470 Sub-registration district Spotland and Norden ED, institution, or vessel 15 Piece 24649 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Richard Haworth 30 Head Mary Haworth 29 Wife Richard Haworth 2 Son
Name Mary Haworth Death Date 13 Jan 1950 Cemetery St Mary Churchyard Burial or Cremation Place Hawkshaw, Metropolitan Borough of Bury, Greater Manchester, England Spouse Richard Haworth
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 17:07 |
1939 Register 86 Deeply Vale Farm, Heywood, Ramsbottom U.D., Lancashire, England Richard Haworth 24 May 1880 Male Dairy Farmer Married 83 1 Mary Haworth 06 Dec 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 83 2 Richard Jun Haworth 08 Mar 1909 Male Cowman Assisting Father Single 83 3 Joseph Haworth 10 Aug 1911 Male Horseman Assisting Father Single 83 4
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20 Aug 2023 17:35 |
Andrew is in quite a few trees on Ancestry. One is by his great grandson but doesn’t seem to be active. I’ve not checked them all.
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grannyfranny
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20 Aug 2023 17:48 |
Thank you kindly for your efforts. I've left a message for the lady to get back to me. It sounds as though there may be descendents still in the area. Once she does get back to me I'll ask around the farming folk, they tend to have long memories.
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ArgyllGran
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20 Aug 2023 18:56 |
Marriage of John Lees Howarth -
Marriages Sep 1960 (>99%) HOWARTH John L SCHOFIELD Heywood 10c 886 SCHOFIELD Alice HOWARTH Heywood 10c 886
J L Howarth in the UK and Ireland, Newspapers.com™ Obituary Index, 1800s-current Name J L Howarth Gender Male Death Age 73 Birth Date abt 1919 Residence Place Rochdale Road Eden-Field Death Date Abt 1992 Obituary Date 25 Sep 1992 Obituary Place Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England Newspaper Title Rossendale Free Press Spouse Alice
Funeral Service Rawtenstall Mr J L Howarth FORMER reservoir keeper John Lees Howarth died on Monday at Bury General Hospital. He was 73 and lived at Rochdale Road Eden-field. He leaves his wife Alice. His funeral is on Monday when the Rev D Dawson will conduct a service at the chapel of rest Ramsbottom before cremation at Rochdale. Funeral director: R Wolstenholme for Booth and Wolstenholme .
Published: Friday 25 September 1992 Newspaper: Rossendale Free Press
It doesn't sound as if they had children - certainly none were born in Heywood RD, or Bury or Rochdale.
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ErikaH
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20 Aug 2023 18:59 |
Andrew is in THREE trees on GR….take a look
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grannyfranny
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20 Aug 2023 22:50 |
Thank you both for your help.
The lady hasn't got back to me yet, there's not a lot I can do until she does. Hopefully she will know some of the family names and we can match them up.
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