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23 Jul 2023 15:33 |
Hi, I am looking for relatives who are related to Herbert Hitchcock born 1922 he has died, not sure of the year, he married Mary Reilly McColgan, in Edinburgh, Mary was born 1921 died 1982, Belper, Derbyshire, they had a son John Hitchcock born 1946 and married a Angela, don't have her surname, they had 2 children Ricky and Samantha. Herbert had a brother Thomas, Herbert and Thomas's parents were Walter Hitchcock and Elizabeth Cockayne all from Debyshire.
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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2023 15:43 |
Look for the Hitchcock marriage to Angela on freebmd..or the same site for births of children to find MMN
To find connections on here you should look at 'search all member trees'
Highly unlikely that anyone connected will see your post
Births Mar 1922 (>99%) Hitchcock Herbert Cockayne Belper 7b 1232
1939 Register 186 Nottingham Road, Belper, Belper U.D., Derbyshire, England Walter Hitchcock 15 Apr 1881 Male Permanent Way Labourer Married 100 1 Elizabeth Hitchcock 23 Oct 1883 Female Domestic Duties Married 100 2 Herbert Hitchcock 15 Jan 1922 Male Hosiery Trimmer Single 100 3
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23 Jul 2023 15:50 |
1921 Census Of England & Wales 6, Chesterfield Road, Belper, Derbyshire, England
Walter Hitchcock Head Male 1881 40 Belper, Derbyshire, England Blast Furnace Labourer Denby Iron & Coal Company Elizabeth Hitchcock Wife Female 1883 37 Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire, England Home Duties - Frederick Hitchcock Son Male 1904 16 Belper, Derbyshire, England Colliery Banksman Old Denby Colliery
HITCHCOCK, FREDERICK COCKAYNE GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in BELPER Volume 07B Page 633
1911 Census For England & Wales Kilbourn Road Belper Derbyshire, Belper, Derbyshire, England Walter Hitchcock Head Married Male 28 1883 General labourer Belper Derbyshire Elizabeth Hitchcock Wife Married Female 27 1884 - Kirk Ireton Derbyshire Frederick Hitchcock Son - Male 6 1905 - Belper Derbyshire Louisa Cockayne Boarder Single Female 23 1888 Cotton doubling frame tenter Kirk Ireton Derbyshire
No records for a Thomas connected to this family as far as I can see
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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2023 15:53 |
Some of the names - and dates - you give don't match online records..............do you have the right family?
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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2023 15:55 |
Two members other than you have Walter in GR trees....send contact messages and hope that they still use the e-mail address they gave to GR when they registered
HITCHCOCK, WALTER (MMN) KNOWLES GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in BELPER Volume 07B Page 594
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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2023 15:59 |
From the GRO site.....FREE to all
HITCHCOCK, HERBERT 1922 GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2005 in DERBY (3941A) Reg A61C Entry Number 231
Make a note - it's invaluable for recent deaths, for ages at death pre-1869, and MMN on births pre-1911 https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2023 16:04 |
1939 Register 9 White Moor Hall, Belper, Belper U.D., Derbyshire, England Frederick Hitchcock 26 Oct 1904 Male Fruit & Vegetable Salesman Married 278 1 Ivy A Hitchcock 12 Dec 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 278 2 Doreen Betterton (Hitchcock) 11 Nov 1929 Female At School Single 278 3 The record for this person is officially closed. The record for this person is officially closed.
Deaths Jun 1969 (>99%) HITCHCOCK Frederick 26Oc1904 Belper 3a 109
Deaths Dec 1982 (>99%) HITCHCOCK IVY ANN 12DE1909 BELPER 6 112
Marriages Sep 1951 (>99%) BETTERTON Hubert HITCHCOCK Belper 3a 134 HITCHCOCK Doreen BETTERTON Belper 3a 134
Betterton Doreen 11/11/1929 2001 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Derby, Derbyshire, England
1939 Register 47 Old Road,Heage, Nether Heage, Ripley U.D., Derbyshire, England William H Betterton 20 Feb 1894 Male Greengrocer Married 271 1 Elizabeth A Betterton 21 Mar 1898 Female Grocer's Assistant Married 271 2 Annie Marshall (Betterton) 02 Dec 1919 Female Stocking Machinist Single 271 3 Roy Betterton 05 Oct 1923 Male Stocking Trimmer Single 271 4 Hubert Betterton 27 Nov 1929 Male At School Single 271 5
Betterton Hubert 27/11/1929 2006 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Derby, Derbyshire, England
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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2023 16:18 |
Someone has Ricky in his GR tree, which means he must be in contact, as one is not allowed to include any living person who has not given permission for their details to be publicised on this insecure site
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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2023 16:23 |
John, Angela and daughter are on the ER on FMP to 2007. Checking on Zoopla, there is no record of the house having been sold. Look on the ER on here...............you could then write to them at the address, enclosing SAE
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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2023 16:43 |
Deaths Mar 1982 (>99%) HITCHCOCK MARY REILLY 3OC1921 BELPER 6 155
MCCOLGAN MARY REILLY HITCHCOCK HERBERT 1946 685 / 8 / 218 LEITH
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nameslessone
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23 Jul 2023 17:19 |
It looks as though John may have beeen an only child and with Herbert losing his brother at such a younge age you have some difficulties finding relatives on that side. You will need to see if Elizabeth Cockayne and Herberts grandparents had siblings. If MaryReilly Mccolgan was born in Scotland then you need to look at Scotsland People. It is free to search but you must pay for downloads.
added: Herberts Death Name Herbert Hitchcock Death Age 83 Birth Date 15 Jan 1922 Registration Date Nov 2005 Registration district Derby Inferred County Derbyshire Register Number A61C District and Subdistrict 394/1A Entry Number 231
Mary Reilly's death: Detail Source Name Mary Rielly Hitchcock Death Age 60 Birth Date 3 Oct 1921 Registration Date Jan 1982 [Feb 1982] [Mar 1982] Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district Belper Inferred County Derbyshire Volume 6 Page 0155
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nameslessone
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23 Jul 2023 17:31 |
Mary & son John returned from Canada on 7/9/1956 address given as 186 Nottingham Road, Belpher
Added. I think Johns marriage to Angela may be a second marriage Samantha seems to have a diferent mother.
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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2023 17:34 |
Info about contacting John and family posted at 16.23
His parents’ deaths from GRO site and freebmd posted at 15.59 and 16.43 respectively
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nameslessone
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23 Jul 2023 18:31 |
Walter was the son of Thomas & Lucy Hitchcock and have a number of siblings. Elizabeth was the daughter of Henry & Emily Cockayne, also with siblings.
Ann could possibly find relatives from this wider family if she so wishes.
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Ann
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23 Jul 2023 21:32 |
Thanks for your help, will follow up the information, hopefully will lead me to someone.
Ann
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ArgyllGran
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24 Jul 2023 08:34 |
Interestingly, the only birth of a Mary Reilly McColgan (or other spelling) in Scotlands People is one in 1946 in Edinburgh. I wonder if she could be an illegitimate child of "your" Mary, born just before the marriage ??? Unfortunately, you'd have to buy a copy of the birth cert to find out - £12 (plus postage) via Scotlands People - as the birth is too recent for you to be able to view it on the site.
MCCOLGAN MARY REILLY F 1946 685 / 4 / 129 St Giles
If you're interested in following Mary's ancestors as well as Herbert's, you need to view the Hitchcock/McColgan marriage cert (for 6 credits on Scotlands People) , to see her parents' names.
I realise you're really looking for Herbert's living relatives.
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ErikaH
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24 Jul 2023 08:48 |
I would think that the woman who married Herbert was Irish by birth
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nameslessone
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24 Jul 2023 09:42 |
The 1982 death certificate for Mary Reilly Hitchcock may give her place of birth.(GRO)
As Argyllgran says, the marriage certificate might be useful if you want to reasearch the Mccoglan line.
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24 Jul 2023 10:30 |
I had a look at certs, just to satisfy my own curiosity. I know it's not what Ann's looking for.
This turns out to be her birth, in Leith. The surname is mistranscribed on SP, and I've reported it:
MCCOLE MARY REILLY F 1921 685 / 11 / 1084 Leith South
Mary Reilly McColgan, born 3 Oct 1921 at 4.20am at 20 Coatfield Lane, Leith. Parents: James McColgan, (something) porter. Margaret McColgan, previously Malarkie, maiden surname Simpson.
Her parents married in Leith in 1919. Her mother's first marriage, to Edward Malarkie, was in Leith, registered in 1913.
When Mary married Herbert:
married 2 May 1946 at South Leith Church Hall. Herbert Hitchcock, 24, bachelor, stocking factory worker, and Corporal, Royal Army Ordnance Corps. Address: 186 Nottingham Road, Belper, Derbyshire, now engaged in War Service. Herbert's parents: Walter Hitchcock, railway ganger, and Elizabeth Hitchcock, maiden surname Cockayne.
Mary Reilly McColgan, 24, spinster, box factory machinist, and Sergeant, ATS. Address: 30 Redbraes Place, Edinburgh, now engaged in War Service. Mary's parents: James McColgan, company porter, deceased. Margaret McColgan, previously Malarkie, ms Simpson.
Witnesses were Margaret S Burnett, 30 Redbraes Place, Edinburgh, and J Green, 53 Edge-hill Road, Leicester.
Mary's father James died in Leith in 1924. His mother's maiden name was Reilly. He was born in Glasgow in 1881.
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24 Jul 2023 12:43 |
Aha! Just to add -
Related thread started by Brian re McPeake /Turnbull/Henderson/etc family:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1401821
Mary Reilly McColgan's mother Margaret Simpson is the subject of that thread.
At her marriage to Edward Malarkie on 31 Dec 1912, Margaret's name is given as Margaret Turnbull McPeak Simpson, and her parents as John Simpson, tailor, and Elizabeth Henderson.
I'll stop now, as this is not what Ann's asking about, and I expect she knows all this already . She's probably the "fellow Genes member" whom Brian mentions.
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