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Elphinstone Webber

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Unknown

Unknown Report 29 Jul 2022 08:05

Hi, I'm searching for living relatives of Elphinstone Webber who was born in India in 1884.
He was my grand uncle.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Jul 2022 08:41

Welcome to Genes and the boards.

It would help if you told us a little more. Where in India was he born. Who were his parents and siblings. Do you know if he married. Did he remain in India?

FIBIS website is very useful for British families in India. You also need to be aware that all papers referring to the British in India are held in the British Library and not the National Archives in Kew.

Assuming that this is a British family.

Edit. He is on three trees as well as your own look at Search/ search all members trees. He is also on trees on Ancestry but no one has added any details other than his name and birth.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jul 2022 09:09

Have you done any research?

Elphinstone Grant Webber, DoB 5 Jun 1884, was the son of Henry Wilson Webber and Keziah

Unless he married, he will have no legitimate offspring

His baptism is the ONLY recorded instance of his name on FMP, Ancestry and familysearch

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jul 2022 10:28

For INFO

Name: Henry Wilson Webber
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Date: 1845
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1869
Marriage Place: Vepery, Madras, India
Father: Charles Henry Webber
Spouse: Kezia Maria Robinson Gaudine
Father: Charles William Augustus Gaudine
FHL Film Number: 521857

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jul 2022 10:31

Name: Miss Harriet Ignatio Gaudoin
[Miss Harriet Ignatio Hill]
[Harriet Ignatio Hill]
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 13 Sep 1844
Father: Mr Thomas Hill
Spouse: C W A Gaudoin

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jul 2022 10:43

So a brother

Name: Ernest Fairley Webber
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 06 Jun 1873
Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1873
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Vepery, Madras, India
Father:
Henry Wilson Webber
Mother:
Kezia Maria
Reference ID: v 54 p 146
FHL Film Number: 521861



Sadly passed as a toddler

Name: Earnest Fairly Webber
Gender: Male
Age: 4
Birth Date: 1873
Death Date: 27 Jan 1877
Burial Date: 27 Jan 1877
Burial Place: Pursewaukum, Madras, India
Father:
Henry Wilson Webber
Mother:
Kegia Maria
FHL Film Number: 521865
Save

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jul 2022 10:45

And another child

Name: Barton Wilson Webber
Gender: Male
Age: 3
Birth Date: 1877
Death Date: 10 Jan 1880
Burial Date: 11 Jan 1880
Burial Place: Pursewalkum, Madras, India
Father:
Henry Wilson Webber
Mother:
Keziah Maria
FHL Film Number: 521868

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jul 2022 10:48

Henry father

Name: Charles Henry Webber
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 23 Jan 1839
Marriage Place: Madras, Madras, India
Spouse:
Amelia Elizabeth Mendez
FHL Film Number: 521842

So consistently lived in india

Name: Charles Henry Webber
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Birth Date: 1813
Death Date: 03 Nov 1861
Burial Date: 03 Nov 1861
Burial Place: Madras, Madras, India
FHL Film Number:


So how is the famiiy connected to you ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jul 2022 10:53

Kezia Maria Robinson Gaudine
1850–1896
BIRTH 22-NOV-1850 • Madras, India
DEATH 18 SEPT 1896 • Pursewaulkum, Madras, India


Henry Wilson Webber
1845–1911
BIRTH 1845 • India
DEATH 28 OCT 1911 • Palamcottah, Perambur, Madras, Ind

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jul 2022 11:00

Just cos it’s coming up

So a child of brother Charles

Name: Olive Janette Maria Webber
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 06 Jun 1899
Baptism Date: 15 Jul 1899
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Perambore, Madras, India
Father:
Charles Sinclair Webber
Mother:
Solome Lydia
FHL Film Number: 527461



Name: Charles Sinclair Webber
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1873
Marriage Date: 27 Apr 1898
Marriage Place: Beaumber, Madras, India
Father:
Henry Wilson Webber
Spouse:
Salome Lydia Brunton
FHL Film Number: 527459

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jul 2022 11:03

Name: Elphinstone Grant Webber
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 05 Jun 1884
Baptism Date: 27 Aug 1884
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Vepery, Madras, India
Father:
Henry Wilson Webber
Mother:
Heziakia
Reference ID: v 65 p 201
FHL Film Number: 521872

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Jul 2022 12:22

Is Alan looking for direct descendants of Elphinstone or all his own cousins from all the siblings?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2022 12:31

Link to website mentioned earlier

https://www.fibis.org/

Unknown

Unknown Report 30 Jul 2022 18:51

Elphinstone Grant Webber was baptised in Vepery, so it's likely that he was born in Madras.
He and his brother Lewis Henry Webber left Madras for Malaya around 1910.
Elphinstone had two sons, Bernard and Lawrence.
Bernard resided in Kuala Lumpur while Lawrence was in Penang.
Elphinstone passed away in Penang in 1946.
There isn't much more that we know about him.
His brother Lewis Henry Webber was my grandfather.
I have been searching for his birth record without any success.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Jul 2022 18:59

The reference to FHL film refers to the films by the Church of Latter Day Saints. Probably found through search on the Family Search website .

Unknown

Unknown Report 30 Jul 2022 19:19

GR members Nigel Bishop and Marina Gaudoin have mention Elphinstone Webber in their family trees. I have attempted to contact them here on GR but got no reply. Not sure if they are still active members.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2022 19:29

Check whether they’ve opened your messages. Allow time for people to respond - not everyone is constantly active online

When asking for help, please always tell us all you know, and what exactly you are hoping for

Presumably, you know when the sons were born?
One would imagine they are now deceased, in view of their father's birth year

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Jul 2022 19:33

If they have kept their same email address Genes will notify them. If they have opened the message the coloured envelope will go.
It can take quite a while to get a response.

It may be worth while taking out a trial or short sub to Ancestry so you can contact the tree holders on there as well.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Aug 2022 07:00

You may not find a birth certificate if his birth wasn’t registered at the British embassy

His baptism however does give his actual birth date so that may all you will find

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Aug 2022 08:49

He's on 6 public trees on Ancestry.
Only one provides a link to the baptism record already posted on here.
None have anything about him except the DOB given on the baptism record.

Sometimes one has to accept that the record one would like to find simply isn't in existence.