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ErikaH
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1 Jul 2022 12:07 |
Not that I noticed :-S
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nameslessone
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1 Jul 2022 11:44 |
Would that include the Lorraine I mentioned, twice. ;-)
Linda is obviously trying to contact some of the tree holders and asked for advise on how to check activity on another board.
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ErikaH
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1 Jul 2022 11:12 |
Members other than 'Harry' have some of the names in GR trees.
Check the facility and send contact messages
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nameslessone
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1 Jul 2022 08:51 |
I assume that is you querying how to make a contact on another board.
Hopefully Lorraine will pickup the message. If you try the Ancestry route and don’t get a reply there should be enough information to help you make a ‘dirty tree’ and then you could make other attempts at finding them.
Hope it works out for you.
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Harry
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30 Jun 2022 22:22 |
Thank you everyone, not sure how this all works, I am Linda Ellis Harry’s daughter in law, he passed away in 1983, I am aware his mum was maud Mary ellis and Charles ellis his father, he had 12 siblings. I just wondered about present family outwith Harry’s sons, just wondered if there were living relatives cousins, uncles, aunts. Thanks for all the info so far, I looked in 2014 but never got any further
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nameslessone
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30 Jun 2022 20:38 |
The Hall tree on Ancestry that I mentioned before is by a descendant of George and they have the same 1939 entry as AG has above.
This is why I suggested that Harry takes out some sort of sub to Ancestry in the hope he can make contact.
Added: the ‘owner’ of the Hall tree is Lorraine and she has George in a tree on Genes. So several routes for Harry to try.
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jun 2022 20:14 |
Possibly George in 1939.
He's with a lot of other boys born around the same time, and it seems to be a Boys' Home:
George Ellis in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: George Ellis Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 3 Feb 1924 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 14 Grove Park Residence Place: Camberwell, London, England Occupation: Learner Metal Engineering Line Number: 9 Schedule Number: 57 Sub Schedule Number: 13 Enumeration District: Aejl Borough: Camberwell Registration district: 25-2 Household Members Age Thomas Gamble 18 This record is officially closed. Albert E Franklin 15 This record is officially closed. This record is officially closed. This record is officially closed. Frederick Dawes 15 Douglas V Ellis 17 George Ellis 15 This record is officially closed.
[ and many others. 36 people listed at that address. ]
Not necessarily him. There was another George Ellis born in 1st qr 1924, in West Ham.
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30 Jun 2022 18:46 |
So Harry has Charles & Maud in his tree. Because of his age I assumed this Harry was looking for the families of Harry ‘s siblings.
AG - what an interesting photo. As George was in the photo I wonder where his twin, Mary, was as she wasn’t named.
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jun 2022 18:17 |
More people looking for info re Harry:
"April 2014 Ellis siblings 1933- 1945 Linda and Steve ask about Harry, George, Mary and Lilian Ellis. Harry was Steve's father. "
https://www.bansteadhistory.com/beechholme_feature_pre%201950.html
and re George: https://www.bansteadhistory.com/beechholme_feature_pre%201950.html#LINELL
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ErikaH
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30 Jun 2022 16:49 |
Harry has Maud Mary Read and Charles John Ellis in his GR tree, so I don't know whether we've wasted our time looking for historical info
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ErikaH
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30 Jun 2022 14:18 |
1939 Register 88 Dunkery Road, Bromley, Chislehurst and Sidcup U.D., Kent, England
Joseph Bryan 23 Jan 1904 Male Telephone Fitter Post Office Married 91 1 Maud L Bryan 26 Jun 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 91 2 The record for this person is officially closed.
Barbara (M) Coulstock (Bryan) 28 May 1930 Female At School Single 91 4
Lilian M Bennett (Ellis) 13 Dec 1919 Female Shop Assistant Single 91 5
Marriages Dec 1946 (>99%) Bennett Ernest J Ellis Bromley 5b 376 Ellis Lillian M Bennett Bromley 5b 376
Deaths Dec 1977 (>99%) BENNETT LILIAN MAY 13DE1919 GREENWICH 12 1252
Deaths Mar 1982 (>99%) BRYAN MAUD LOUISE 26JE1908 BROMLEY 11 1417
Marriages Sep 1949 (>99%) Bryan Barbara M Coulstock Lewisham 5d 270 Coulstock Edwin C Bryan Lewisham 5d 270
Coulstock Barbara Maud 1930 2003 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Bromley, Kent, England
Coulstock Edwin Charles 1926 2004 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Lewisham, London, England
Probably 3 children - find their births on freebmd. Too recent to post on here https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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ErikaH
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30 Jun 2022 14:11 |
Marriage 25/12/1906, Southwark
Maud Mary Read, Age 21 Father: John Samuel Read Charles John Ellis, Age 24 Father: William John Ellis
Name: John Samuel Read Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Age: 25 Birth Date: 1860 Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1885 Marriage Place: Newington, Surrey, England Father: Henry Read Spouse: Emma Anthony Father: Joseph Anthony FHL Film Number: 475304 Reference ID: p 196
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nameslessone
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30 Jun 2022 11:15 |
It might be worth Harry taking out a free trial or short subto Ancestry as both the McDonough & Hall trees are his family.
Harry if you do take a trial or sub you must remember to cancel it in time, otherwise it rolls over. The two tree owners haven’t been active for a bit but it may be worth giving it a go.
Good luck.
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jun 2022 11:15 |
ELLIS, ALICE EILEEN mmn READ GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 293
Alice Ilene Ellis in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1920 Name: Alice Ilene Ellis Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 25 Jan 1911 Baptism Date: 12 Feb 1911 Baptism Place: Christ Church, Southwark, Southwark, England Father: Charles John Ellis Mother: Maud Mary Ellis
Alice E Ellis in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Alice E Ellis Registration Date: Jul 1929[Aug 1929] [Sep 1929] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Southwark Inferred County: London Spouse: George Taylor Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 242
Alice E Taylor in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Alice E Taylor Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 23 Jan 1911 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 15 Residence Place: Dagenham, Essex, England Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Line Number: 37 Schedule Number: 350 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: Ccky Borough: Dagenham Registration district: 191/1 Inferred Spouse: George F Taylor Inferred Children: Kenneth G Taylor Household Members Age George F Taylor 38 Alice E Taylor 28 Kenneth G Taylor 9 This record is officially closed.
Alice Eileen Taylor in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Alice Eileen Taylor Death Age: 75 Birth Date: 23 Jan 1911 Registration Date: Mar 1986 Registration District: Havering Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 13 Page: 330
Births Dec 1930 (>99%) Taylor Kenneth G Ellis Lambeth 1d 257
Kenneth G Taylor in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Kenneth G Taylor Registration Date: Jul 1951[Aug 1951] [Sep 1951] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Ilford Inferred County: Essex Spouse: Joyce xxxxxxx [ edited as maybe still living ] Volume Number: 5a Page Number: 1047
Kenneth George Taylor in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Kenneth George Taylor Death Age: 69 Birth Date: 13 Nov 1930 Registration Date: Jan 2000 Registration District: Havering Inferred County: Greater London Register Number: HA83 District and Subdistrict: 2341A Entry Number: 195
A possible son of Kenneth and Joyce born 1952 - but can't be sure without the cert.
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nameslessone
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30 Jun 2022 11:15 |
It might be worth Harry taking out a free trial or short subto Ancestry as both the McDonough & Hall trees are his family.
Harry if you do take a trial or sub you must remember to cancel it in time, otherwise it rolls over. The two tree owners haven’t been active for a bit but it may be worth giving it a go.
Good luck.
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ErikaH
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30 Jun 2022 09:59 |
1911 Census For England & Wales 10 U Block Peabody Buildings Duke Street S E, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England
Charles John Ellis Head Married Male 29 1882 Dress material packer Lambeth London Maud Mary Ellis Wife Married Female 23 1888 - Newington London Maud Louisa Ellis Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Lambeth London Ada Dorothy Ellis Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Lambeth London Alice Eileen Ellis Daughter - Female 0 1911 - -
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ErikaH
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30 Jun 2022 09:57 |
1921
Maud Mary Ellis 1886 Newington, London, England Newington Southwark London, Surrey
Ellen Harman 1874 Hampshire, England Newington Southwark London, Surrey
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ErikaH
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30 Jun 2022 09:50 |
Assuming the Ancestry tree is accurate............................
Deaths Jun 1962 (>99%) ELLIS Maud M 75 Islington 5c 906
Deaths Dec 1947 (>99%) Ellis Charles J 68 Surrey Mid.E. 5g 257
Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%) Ellis Charles John Southwark 1d 80 READ Maud Mary Southwark 1d 80
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nameslessone
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30 Jun 2022 09:49 |
There are about 6 trees on Ancestry with the family in them. (using Robert G Ellis 1919) none of them name Harry they all end with the twins.. Plenty more children starting in 1908
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ErikaH
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30 Jun 2022 09:44 |
ELLIS, LILIAN MAY READ GRO Reference: 1920 M Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 142
Marriage Jul 1947 • Surrey Mid Eastern, Surrey, United Kingdom Harold A White
Death of father Charles John Ellis(1882–1947) Oct 1947 • Surrey Mid eastern, Surrey, England 1960 40 Death of brother Robert George Ellis(1919–1960) Abt 1960? 1962 42 Death of mother Maud Mary Read(1887–1962) Jun 1962 • Islington, Greater London, England 1967 47
Death Oct 1967 • Camberwell, Greater London, England
From a 'Read' tree on Ancestry
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