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30 Oct 2021 16:21 |
They were my great uncles .Thomas won a military medal in 1917 and Austin was in Royal Navy in WW1.I am the granddaughter of their brother William Henry Hogan .any information i would be grateful for .They were originally from Pemberton Wigan;Thankyou Linda Hogan
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ErikaH
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30 Oct 2021 16:25 |
Have you tried looking for info anywhere? Freebmd is the best place to start looking for marriages and subsequent births
Did both of them survive WW1?
In which years were they born?
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ErikaH
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30 Oct 2021 16:34 |
Look for their names in ‘search all member trees’. If they appear, send contact message to the tree owner(s)
EDIT. I just looked for Austin - he’s in two trees, so that’s a start for you
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30 Oct 2021 16:36 |
As you are posting on the Find Living Relatives board one assumes they survived the war.
Use the free site www.freebmd.org.uk to find their births, then their marriages and then look for births of any children and so on.
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30 Oct 2021 18:39 |
Is this your family - From freebmd - https://www.freebmd.org.uk
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Mar 1881 (>99%) HOGAN Austin Wigan 8c 42
Births Sep 1885 (>99%) ...................Not seeing a death if there was another Hogan Thomas Wigan 8c 49.....................................Thomas born 1892
Births Jun 1892 (>99%) Hogan Thomas Wigan 8c 161
Births Dec 1894 (>99%) Hogan William Henry Wigan 8c 138
---------------------- and then from the GRO site showing Mother's maiden name pre 1911 https://www.gro.gov.uk
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HOGAN, AUSTIN WELSH GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 42
HOGAN, THOMAS WELSH GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 49
HOGAN, THOMAS WALSH GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 161
HOGAN, WILLIAM HENRY WALSH GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 138
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greyghost
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30 Oct 2021 18:41 |
? The family in 1901 - for our info
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 135, Little Lane, Pemberton, Wigan, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Michael Hogan Head Married Male 45 1856 Labourer at colliery above ground Ireland Mary Hogan Wife Married Female 41 1860 - Ireland Austin Hogan Son Single Male 20 1881 Labourer at colliery above ground Wigan, Lancashire, England Michael Hogan Son Single Male 15 1886 Labourer at colliery above ground Wigan, Lancashire, England Elizabeth E Hogan Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Wigan, Lancashire, England Edward Hogan Son - Male 13 1888 Labourer at colliery above ground Wigan, Lancashire, England Thomas Hogan Son - Male 8 1893 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England William Hogan Son - Male 6 1895 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England
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greyghost
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30 Oct 2021 18:45 |
1911 - again fro info - Father Michael Remarried? Original shows Michael and Sarah married 1 year and had 1 child
Austin not at home
1911 Census For England & Wales 67 Tunstall Lane Pemberton, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Michael Hogan Head Married Male 52 1859 Store keeper at colliery Corofin Co Clare Ireland Resident Sarah Hogan Wife Married Female 39 1872 - Lancashire Wigan Elizabeth Ellen Hogan Daughter Single Female 21 1890 - Lancashire Wigan Thomas Hogan Son Single Male 18 1893 Labourer at colliery above ground Lancashire Wigan William Henry Hogan Son Single Male 16 1895 Laborer at colliery above ground Lancashire Wigan Albert Hogan Son - Male 10 1901 School Lancashire Wigan James Winstanley Stepson Single Male 17 1894 Black smith Lancashire Wigan John Winstanley Stepson - Male 11 1900 School Lancashire Wigan Margaret Anne Hogan Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Lancashire Wigan
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greyghost
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30 Oct 2021 18:47 |
Is this Austin, now married - original says married 1 year, 1 child born
if it's him, he's lost a couple of years age wise!
1911 Census For England & Wales 3 Queens Terrace Orrell, Orrell, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Austin Hogan Head Married Male 27 1884 Stoker at collier of aboveground Lancashire Wigan Margaret Alice Hogan Wife Married Female 26 1885 - Lancashire Wigan Mary Hogan Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Lancashire Wigan Male
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greyghost
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30 Oct 2021 18:53 |
Austin's possible marriage - found on freebmd
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%) Hogan Austin Wigan 8c 195 Taylor Margaret A Wigan 8c 195
-------------- Birth of the daughter of that marriage (use the GRO site pre Q3 1911) Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HOGAN, MARY ALICE TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 110
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Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1914 (>99%) HOGAN William Taylor Wigan 8c 256
Births Sep 1915 (>99%) Hogan Janie Taylor Wigan 8c 224
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Oct 2021 18:57 |
Austin Hogan in the UK and Ireland, Find a Grave Index, 1300s-Current Name: Austin Hogan Birth Date: 1881 Death Date: 13 Oct 1937 Cemetery: Lower Ince Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Ince in Makerfield, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England Has Bio?: N URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/216781755/austin-hogan
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greyghost
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30 Oct 2021 18:59 |
Good sites for Lancs bmd's -free to use http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/birthsearch.php
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1910 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference Add to Summary HOGAN Mary Alice TAYLOR 1910 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/104/198
1914 HOGAN William TAYLOR 1914 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/110/368
1915 HOGAN Janie TAYLOR 1915 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/114/68
and also this site for baptisms, marriages, burials - https://www.lan-opc.org.uk
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greyghost
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30 Oct 2021 19:08 |
Just to show you the Lancsbmd site (more info than freebmd which just shows the Registration District.
Death of Mary Hogan using the lancs bmd site
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1908 Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Year Sub-District Registers At Reference Add to Summary HOGAN Mary 46 1908 Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/52/267
and his remarriage from the same site
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary HOGAN Michael WINSTANLEY Sarah 1909 Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/127/8
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30 Oct 2021 19:12 |
IF he married in the home area - possible marriage for Thomas
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1913 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary HOGAN Thomas GORDON Elizabeth Ann 1913 Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/129/71
3 children in Wigan RD to that marriage
You need to buy certificates to prove correct marriages
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Oct 2021 10:13 |
Elizabeth Ann Hogan Birth Date: 29 Jan 1894 Death Date: 10 Jul 1974 Cemetery: Gidlow Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Standish, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England Has Bio?: N Spouse: Thomas Hogan Children: Agnes Taylor Elizabeth Wilson URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/216721257/elizabeth-ann-hogan
Thomas Hogan Birth Date: 30 Apr 1892 Death Date: 15 Apr 1950 Cemetery: Gidlow Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Standish, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England Has Bio?: N Spouse: Elizabeth Ann Hogan Children: Agnes Taylor Elizabeth Wilson URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/216721254/thomas-hogan
Dos his date of birth tie up ?
Inscription
Inscription In loving memory of Thomas Hogan died 15th April 1950 aged 57. Also Agnes Taylor daughter of the above died 17th May 1966 aged 46 years. R.I.P. Also Elizabeth Ann Hogan died10th July 1974 aged 80 years Also Betty wife of Walter Wilson died 6th May 1976 aged 60 years. Gravesite Details
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Oct 2021 10:14 |
1939 register
Thomas Hogan Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 30 Apr 1892 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 556 Ormskirk Rd Residence Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England Occupation: Exhaust Engine Man Colliery Line Number: 6 Schedule Number: 52 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: NSRS Borough: Wigan Registration district: 458/3 Inferred Spouse: Elizabeth A Hogan Inferred Children: Elizabeth Hogan Agnes Hogan Household Members Age Thomas Hogan 47 Elizabeth A Hogan 45 Elizabeth Hogan (Wilson) 24 Agnes Hogan (Taylor) 20
Edit Looks like the first child Ann died as a baby
Births Mar 1914 HOGAN Ann Gordon Wigan 8c 258
Deaths Dec 1915 Hogan Annie 1 Wigan 8c 125
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Oct 2021 10:30 |
Looks like the birth does tie in
Thomas Hogan Registration Date: 1892 Quarter of the Year: Apr-May-Jun Registration Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Volume: 8c Page: 161 Mmn Walsh
As previously posted by greyghost
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ErikaH
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31 Oct 2021 12:23 |
Hogan Austin 1884 — 1914 British Army Service Records Wigan, Lancashire, England
Discharged medically unfit 12.10.14
Wife Margaret Alice Daughter Mary Alice
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