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24 Oct 2023 20:30 |
Welcome to Genes and the boards.
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Shaun
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24 Oct 2023 20:09 |
Bit late to this but I am the 1955 child of Elsie referred to above, the 1944 child, my brother Peter sadly died in 2021. Gwen was my mothers loved and sadly missed sister (strictly speaking half sister but mum never thought of her in that way). I came to this by accident searching for a mention if my Primary school relative, Billy Ousley, we were at Newtown Primary School in the 1960’s.
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ArgyllGran
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25 Oct 2021 12:33 |
Walter's daughter Olive (born 17 Dec 1901) died unmarried, in Ashton in 1967.
His daughter Annie May (born 29 May 1904) married in 1930:
Annie May Ousley in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 Name: Annie May Ousley Gender: Female Marriage Age: 24 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1906 Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1930 Marriage Place: West Gorton, St Mark, Lancashire, England Parish as it Appears: Gorton, St Michael Father: Walter Ousley Spouse: Ernest Edward Ward
She died in 1999 in Stoke on Trent, Staffs. She and Ernest seem to have had only one child:
Births Dec 1936 (>99%) Ward Walter A Ousley Newcastle L. 6b 105
Sadly, he died:
Deaths Jun 1937 (>99%) Ward Walter A 0 Ashton 8d 713
Walter Ous(e)ley's son, William Walter (born 2 Sept 1908) died in 1997 in the Greater Manchester area.
He had married in 1938:
William W Ousley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: William W Ousley Registration Date: Jul 1938[Aug 1938] [Sep 1938] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Ashton Inferred County: Lancashire Spouse: Edith M Stenton Volume Number: 8d Page Number: 2026
They had two children, born in Ashton, 1939 and 1944.
The 1944 child probably married in Ashton in 1965, and had two children, one born in Ashton in 1968 (who married in Greater Manchester in 1990 and had two children 1995 and 1998), and the other in 1971.
The 1939 child married in Ashton in 1958, and had two children in Ashton, 1959 and 1961. Appears to be still living in Manchester, though the spouse died in 2018.
I'll stop there - it's too complicated without being able to name names of living people.
You can track down much of this on FreeBMD.
There are still lots of other siblings of Walter , as listed on 3 Oct, (and their descendants if any) to track forward to the present day.
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ArgyllGran
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25 Oct 2021 11:57 |
Walter's daughter Ethel (born 1896) married in 1924 :
Ethel Ousley in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 Name: Ethel Ousley Gender: Female Marriage Age: 26 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1898 Marriage Date: 21 Apr 1924 Marriage Place: West Gorton, St Mark, Lancashire, England Parish as it Appears: Gorton, St Michael Father: Walter Ousley Spouse: Joseph Edward Gratton
I can't see either Ethel or her husband definitely after that - and no sign of children.
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ArgyllGran
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25 Oct 2021 11:39 |
Charles's brother George, as already said on 3 Oct. married Elizabeth Ann Dransfield. They had only one child, Vera, in 1917, who sadly died in 1918.
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ArgyllGran
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25 Oct 2021 11:15 |
Have you followed up on the info I posted about Charles's siblings on 3 Oct at 14:09 ?
Emily, who married Reginald Hooper, had no children. They are together in Exeter in 1939. Emily died in 1950.
Edmund, who died in 1895, didn't marry.
Walter, who, as already said, was with his brother George in Glamorgan in 1891, and in West Gorton, Lancs in 1911 with wife Elizabeth and children Ethel, Olive, Annie May, and William Walter.
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ErikaH
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25 Oct 2021 10:21 |
All loosely connected
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1336375 https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1232300 https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1083542 https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1083538 https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1079743 https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1075404 https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/873554
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ArgyllGran
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24 Oct 2021 17:18 |
Re the two children of Elsie (Charles's daughter by his second marriage) as mentioned earlier:
the 1955 child may perhaps have married in 1989 in Glamorgan, and may perhaps have been living in Dorchester in 2010. I can't see him definitely after that.
According to a correction to the 1989 bride's surname on Ancestry, she appears to have remarried , and is currently living in Wales (per ER).
Unfortunately, Elsie's 1944 child has such a common name that's it's impossible to pick out any other records. There is no further record of that child in Devon - but loads of records for people of that name in many other places.
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ArgyllGran
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24 Oct 2021 16:46 |
New thread started:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1398020
Susan -
please continue on this existing thread, and not on the new one, to save people repeating research - as Maddie has done already.
There's nothing to be gained by asking virtually the same question again.
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Susan
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24 Oct 2021 16:30 |
Thankyou so much this is amazing
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ArgyllGran
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4 Oct 2021 09:25 |
I haven't posted anything about Gwendoline's children, and any descendants they might have had, as I assume you know about them:
She had five children, including twin boys who both died soon after birth, sadly.
Births Mar 1938 (>99%) Tancock Charles E Ousley Exeter 5b 77 Tancock Eric Ousley Exeter 5b 77
Deaths Mar 1938 (>99%) TANCOCK Charles E 0 Exeter 5b 94 TANCOCK Eric 0 Exeter 5b 95
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ArgyllGran
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3 Oct 2021 14:09 |
Gwendoline's father had lots of siblings, so maybe some of them have living descendants.
Charles's parents' marriage:
John Ousley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: John Ousley Registration Year: 1861 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: St Thomas Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 103 Records on Page: Name John Ousley Anna Pope
John Ousley in the 1871 England Census Name: John Ousley Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: 1837 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Thorverton Devon England Civil parish: Upton Pyne County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: St Thomas Sub-registration district: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 37 Piece: 2055 Folio: 58 Page number: 6 Household Members Age Relationship John Ousley 34 Head Anna Ousley 33 Wife William Ousley 8 Son John Ousley 7 Son James Ousley 6 Son George Ausley 5 Son Elizabeth Ausley 3 Daughter Walter Ausley 3 Son
Charles Ousley in the 1881 England Census Name: Charles Ousley Relationship to Head: Son Father: John Ousley Mother: Anna Ousley Gender: Male Where born: Upton Pyne, Devon, England Civil Parish: Upton Pyne County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address: Road Education: Employment status: View image Registration District: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: Piece: 2145 Folio: 85 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age John Ousley 44 Anna Ousley 42 George Ousley 14 Walter Ousley 11 Edmund Ousley 7 Sidney Ousley 4 Charles Ousley [8 months ]
Charles Ousley in the 1891 England Census Name: Charles Ousley Gender: Male Age: 10 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1881 Father: John Ousley Mother: Anna Ousley Birth Place: Upton Pyne, Devon, England Civil parish: Upton Pyne Ecclesiastical parish: Upton Pyne Residence Place: Whitestone, Upton Pyne, Devon, England Registration district: St Thomas Sub registration district: St Thomas ED, Institution or Vessel: 14 Neighbors: Piece: 1683 Folio: 89 Household Members Age Relationship John Ousley 56 Head Anna Ousley 52 Wife James Ousley 24 Son Edmond Ousley 17 Son Sidney Ousley 14 Son Charles Ousley 10 Son Emily Ousley 7 Daughter
Births:
OUSLEY, WILLIAM HENRY mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 67
OUSLEY, JOHN mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 66
OUSLEY, JAMES mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69
OUSLEY, GEORGE mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 63
OUSLEY, ELIZABETH mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69
OUSLEY, ANNIE mmn POPE [died in 1869 ] GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 76
OUSLEY, WALTER mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 70
ONSLEY, SIDNEY mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 67
ONSLEY, LUCY mmn POPE [died 1879 ] GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 66
ONSLEY, CHARLES mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69
ONSLEY, EMILY mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69
WOUSLEY, EDMUND mmn POPE GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69
Edmund died in 1895. Walter and George are both boarders with a Jones family in Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan in 1891. Emily married Reginald Hooper in 1912.
1901 Sidney's a coachman in Burrington, Devon, and in 1901 he's a groom in Hove (claiming to be born 1880). He married Charlotte Bridger in Sussex in 1919, and in 1939 they're living in Chichester (his DOB as 1879) . He died 1959 in Selsey, Sussex
George seems to have moved to Lancashire, marrying Elizabeth Ann Dransfield in 1907, and living in Radcliffe, Lancs in 1939. He died in 1949.
Walter also moved to Lancashire. He married Elizabeth Long in Manchester in 1895, and was living in Ardwick in 1901, and in 1911 (by which time they had Ethel 15, Olive 9, Annie May 6, and William Walter 2. He died in 1918.
Elizabeth was a servant in Heavitree in 1881, and in Canterbury in 1891. In 1892 she married Wiliam Henry Roberts in Canterbury. By 1901 they had Winifred Roberts 8, Dorothy Roberts 6, Mabel Roberts 3. By 1911 ,they also had William and Albert - but her husband's not with her. .Elizabeth probably died in Chatham , Kent in 1954.
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ErikaH
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3 Oct 2021 10:32 |
To find any living relatives, start by looking in ‘search all member trees’ for the names you have. If anyone else has them in GR trees, try sending contact message(s)
Also, make sure you tree on here is up-to-date and accurate, so that anyone searching will find your entries
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ArgyllGran
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2 Oct 2021 22:04 |
Elsie and John Farrell had two children, born in Exeter in 1944 and 1955.
You can find their names on FreeBMD by searching births with the two parental surnames.
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ArgyllGran
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2 Oct 2021 22:02 |
Charles and Ella had two children - half-siblings to Gwendoline if that 1919 marriage for Charles is the correct one.
Births Jun 1920 (>99%) Ousley Elsie D Bristow Exeter 5b 170
Births Mar 1922 (>99%) Ousley Charles E J Bristow Exeter 5b 128
Charles Edward John Ousley in the UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947 Name: Charles Edward John Ousley Gender: Male Age: 23 Birth Date: abt 1922 Death Date: 28 Feb 1945 Cemetery: Suda Bay War Cemetery Gre. 10 Burial Country: Greece Regimental Number: 189964 Region or Memorial: Greece Father: Charles Ousley Mother: Ella Ousley
Pilot Officer ( Pilot ) Charles Edward Ousley in the Global, Find a Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current Name: Pilot Officer ( Pilot ) Charles Edward Ousley Death Date: 28 Feb 1945 Cemetery: Suda Bay War Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Chania, Regional unit of Chania, Crete, Greece
Elsie D Ousley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Elsie D Ousley Registration Date: Apr 1943[May 1943] [Jun 1943] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Exeter Inferred County: Devon Spouse: John Farroll Volume Number: 5b Page Number: 244
MS Elsie Dorothy Farrell in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019 Name: MS Elsie Dorothy Farrell Gender: Female Age: 88 Birth Date: 1921 Last Residence: Helston, Cornwall, England Postal Code District: Tr13 Death Date: 22 Jan 2009
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ArgyllGran
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2 Oct 2021 21:53 |
Her mother died when Gwendoline was very young:
Lilian L Ousley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Lilian L Ousley Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: St Thomas, Devonshire, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1913 Inferred Death Place: Devonshire, United Kingdom Volume: 5b Page: 60
Is this Charles remarrying ? with a middle initial not shown before?:
Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%) Bristow Ella L Ousley Wellington Som 5c 631 Ousley Charles H Bristow Wellington Som. 5c 631
Ella Louisa Ousley in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 Name: Ella Louisa Ousley Death Date: 22 Jul 1988 Death Place: Stithians Truro Probate Date: 28 Sep 1988 Probate Registry: Bristol
Charles Ousley in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Charles Ousley Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 18 Jul 1880 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 35 South Lawn Terrace Residence Place: Exeter, Devon, England Occupation: Jobbing Builder Heavy Worker Line Number: 20 Schedule Number: 151 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: WDBP Borough: Exeter Registration district: 271/1 Inferred Spouse: Ella Ousley Household Members Age Charles Ousley 59 Ella Ousley 40
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Charles Ousley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Charles Ousley Death Age: 90 Birth Date: 24 Jul 1880 Registration Date: Jul 1970[Aug 1970] [Sep 1970] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Exeter Inferred County: Devon Volume: 7a Page: 1038
Charles Ousley in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 Name: Charles Ousley Death Date: 12 Aug 1970 Death Place: Devon Probate Date: 22 Sep 1970 Probate Registry: Bristol
OUSLEY, Charles of Charelle, Heath Hill, Broadclyst, Devon, died 12 August 1970. Probate Bristol 22 September. £5380.
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ArgyllGran
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2 Oct 2021 21:44 |
And her husband was Algie, not Alfie:
Gwendoline M Ousley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Gwendoline M Ousley Registration Date: Oct 1930[Nov 1930] [Dec 1930] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Exeter Inferred County: Devon Spouse: Algie T Tancock Volume Number: 5b Page Number: 230
Gwendoline M Tancock in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Gwendoline M Tancock Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 8 Jan 1910 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 11 Coronation Road Residence Place: Exeter, Devon, England Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Line Number: 29 Schedule Number: 202 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: WDCH Borough: Exeter Registration district: Exeter 217/1 Inferred Spouse: Algie T Tancock Household Members Age Algie T Tancock 34 Gwendoline M Tancock 29
There are three closed records with them.
Algie Thomas Tancock in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Algie Thomas Tancock Death Age: 75 Birth Date: 5 Nov 1906 Registration Date: Jan 1982[Feb 1982] [Mar 1982] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Exeter Inferred County: Devon Volume: 21 Page: 1279
Gwendoline M Tancock in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Gwendoline M Tancock Death Age: 40 Birth Date: abt 1910 Registration Date: Apr 1950[May 1950] [Jun 1950] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Exeter Inferred County: Devon Volume: 7a Page: 389
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2 Oct 2021 21:41 |
Gwendoline Ousley in the 1911 England Census Name: Gwendoline Ousley Age in 1911: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Exeter, Devon Civil Parish: Exeter Country: England Street Address: 29 Weirfield Road, Exeter Registration District Number: 271 Sub-registration District: Exeter ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 12687 Household Members: Name Age Charles Ousley 30 - Upton Pyne, Devon, plasterer Lillian Lucy Ousley 29 Gwendoline Ousley 1
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ArgyllGran
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2 Oct 2021 21:38 |
For our reference:
Her birth:
OUSLEY, GWENDOLINE MINNIE mmn MAY GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 71
Her father's name was Charles, not William:
Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%) MAY Lilian Lucy St. Germans 5c 74 Ousley Charles St. Germans 5c 74
Gwendoline seems to have been their only child.
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2 Oct 2021 21:04 |
Sue you have two of these requests. Please could you delete the other one.
You need to give us more information. . How old was Gwendoline when she died? Where did she live? When do you think she married?
It is possible you may find her on the 1939 index and possibly on the 1911 census. Using the free website www.freebmd.org.uk may help you.
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