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One of the results from a google search for Royal Victoria Hospital, (South Stoneham RD as per 1901 census) for George Hall - nurse.

Actually RVH Netley, originally built as a Military hospital in latter years it was a Military psychiatric hospital, but now a lovely country park on the edge of Southampton Water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netley_Hospital

???

1939

1 Dilleys Cottage Billet Road, Barking And Dagenham, Ilford M.B., Essex, England

Thomas G Hall 08 Apr 1906 Male Boiler Stoker Cable Work Married 23 1

Marriages Jun 1934 (>99%)
Hall Thomas G Main Romford 4a 1335
Main Edith Hall Romford 4a 1335

Possibly 6 children - look for their births on freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Margaret and children in Perth in 1901 - George in 1901 already posted:

Margaret Hall
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Margaret Hall
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Newburgh, fifeshire
Registration Number: 387
Registration district: Perth
Civil parish: Perth
County: Perthshire
Address: 10 Atholl Street
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 55
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_124
Household Members Age Relationship
Margaret Hall 61 Head
Jessie Hall 33 Daur (Daughter)
Robert Hall 26 Son
William Hall 22 Son

I still don't see any of the family in 1891



??

Robert Hall
in the Perthshire, Scotland, School Registers of Admission and Withdrawals, 1869-1902
Name: Robert Hall
Birth Date: 7 Oct 1874
Age: 10
School: Perth North Port
Admission Date: 24 Nov 1884
Parent or Guardian: George

Also Ellen Hall, DOB 30/04/1876.

Address: 14 Bridge Lane.

Robert left the school on 10/11/1886, and Ellen on 28/06/1888.
No reason stated.

Re the Durrisdeer family in 1881 census posted above -

the daughter Jessie and son James were born in Newburgh, Fife.

Jessie's baptism:

Janet Hall
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Janet Hall
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 03 Mar 1868
Birth Place: Newburgh,Fife,Scotland
Father: George Hall
Mother: Margaret Gorrie
FHL Film Number: 6035516

And James's:


James Hall
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: James Hall
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 07 Sep 1869
Birth Place: Newburgh,Fife,Scotland
Father:
George Hall
Mother:
Margaret Gorrie
FHL Film Number: 6035516



In 1871 the mother Margaret is also with them, born in Newburgh.

George Hall
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: George Hall
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Hak
Gender: Male
Where born: Hinfannd, Perthshire
Registration Number: 823
Registration District: Durisdeer
Civil Parish: Durisdeer
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Shaw Head
Occupation: Game Keeper
ED: 5
Household Schedule Number: 15
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1871_183
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hall 34
Margaret Hak 33
Janet Hak 3
James Hak 18
John Hall 1 Mo


So this is the parents' marriage:

HALL
GEORGE
GORRIE
MARGARET
1865
450/ 17
Newburgh

Margaret Gorrie
in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name: Margaret Gorrie
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1865
Marriage Place: Newburgh,Fife,Scotland
Spouse:
George Hall
FHL Film Number: 6035516




They had an earlier son George who died in infancy:

Death:
HALL
GEORGE
1
mmn GORRIE
1867
450/ 24
Newburgh


Margaret and two of her children in 1881:

Margaret Hall
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: Margaret Hall
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Newburgh, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 369
Registration district: Kinnoull
Civil parish: Kinnoull
County: Perthshire
Address: Sitmelane
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 22
Roll: cssct1881_105
Household Members Age Relationship
Christina Cameron 56 Head
Euphemia Blyth 44 Visitor
Margaret Hall 42 Visitor
Helen Hall 4 Visitor - Thornhill, Dumfries-shire
William Hall 2 Visitor - Thornhill, Dumfries-shire

This is the George who was in Perth in 1911:

UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Soldier Service Records, 1760-1920
View Original Image on Fold3.
Name: George Hall
Enlistment Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1873
Birth Place: Pentront Dennfleshire
Enlistment Year: 1901
Regiment: Royal Army Medical Corps
Regimental Number: 15830
Attestation Paper: Yes


So he may well have been the one who was a nurse at the Royal Victoria Hospital in South Stoneham in 1901.

I suspect "Pentront" or "Pirfront" is meant to be Penpont.
Penpont is only about 7 miles from Durrisdeer.

Anyway, he's the only George Hall born in Dumfries-shire 1870-80.

??

George Hall
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: George Hall
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 13 Apr 1834
Event Place: Kinfauns, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Kinfauns, Perth, Scotland
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 4 Apr 1834
Father's Name: George Hall
Mother's Name: Helen Cameron

GS Film Number: 1040334
Digital Folder Number: 007907880
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11366-4
System Origin: ODM



George Hall
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: George Hall
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relationship: Son
Father: George Hall
Mother: Hellen Hall
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinfauns, Perthshire
Parish Number: 366
Civil Parish: Kinfauns
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County: Perthshire
Address: Forebank
Occupation: Errand Boy
ED: 2
Page: 1
Household Schedule Number: 3
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1851_77
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hall 55 - salmon fisher
Hellen Hall 50
James Hall 29
Robert Hall 27
Christian Hall 20
John Hall 19
George Hall 17

Also at Forebank in 1841.

In 1861, a ploughman at Petlowie Farmhouse, Kinfauns.

If that's the right George, his father was back in Perthshire in 1901. Arngask is about 11 miles from Perth:

George Hall
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: George Hall
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: kenfanus, Perthshire [ Kinfauns ]
Registration Number: 328C
Registration district: Arngask
Civil parish: Arngask
County: Perthshire
Address: Rashiefold
Occupation: Ag Labourer (goul)
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1901_115
Household Members: 1


I'm not spending credits to see what "goul" is a mistranscription of !

George senior was a gamekeeper in Durrisdeer in 1871.

Probably his death:

HALL
GEORGE
75
1911
387/ 72
Perth



I don't see the family in 1891.

As George was a rabbit catcher in 1911, maybe this is him in 1881 - father a rabbit trapper born in Perthshire:

George Hall
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: George Hall
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: George Hall
Gender: Male
Where born: Dumfriesshire, Durrisdeer
Registration Number: 823
Registration district: Durisdeer
Civil parish: Durisdeer
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Saughhead
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 3
Line: 16
Roll: cssct1881_322
Household Members Age Relationship
George Hall 44 Head - Kinfauns, Perthshire.
Jessie Hall 13 Daughter
James Hall 11 Son
John Hall 10 Son
George Hall 7 Son
Robert Hall 6 Son
James Blythe 20 Lodger


Birth:

HALL
GEORGE
M
1873
823/ 5
Durisdeer

I've had a look at the 1911 census posted by ErikaH.

Address: 17 Thimblerow, Perth.

George was a self-employed rabbitcatcher, employed on "various farms", born in what looks like "Pirfront", Dumfries. BUT there's no such place, and no George Hall born anywhere in Dumfries-shire 1868-72.

Beatrice, born England, married for 6 years (which matches the Hartley Wintney marriage); 4 children, all still living in 1911.

All the children born in Perth.




Beatrice in 1901??

Beatrice McKennan
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Beatrice McKennan
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Thomas McKennan
Birth Place: Farnborough, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Farnborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Farnborough
Town: Farnborough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Hartley Wintney <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Sub-registration District: Farnborough
ED, institution, or vessel: Aldershot Camp
Neighbors:
Piece: 1105
Folio: 125
Page Number: 8
Household Schedule Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas McKennan 56 - widower, Ireland, warder
Beatrice McKennan 19 - housekeeper to father, born Farnborough.


Maybe a possibility for George in 1901 ???

George Hall
in the 1901 England Census
Name: George Hall
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Scotland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Hound
Ecclesiastical parish: Hound St Edward or St Mary
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: South Stoneham
Sub-registration District: St Mary Extra
ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Victoria Hospital
Neighbors:
Piece: 1064
Folio: 124
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hall 28 - hospital nurse.



Or this one??

George Hall
in the 1901 England Census
Name: George Hall
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Soldier - Gunner RMA [ Royal Marine Artillery ]
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Scotland
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Milton St James
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration District: Portsmouth
Sub-registration District: Kingston and East Southsea
ED, institution, or vessel: Eastney Barracks
Neighbors:
Piece: 991
Folio: 87
Page Number: 29
Household Schedule Number: 1
George Hall 27

CHURCHER, ELSIE GWENDOLINE (MMN) ROSEVEAR
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 8

CHURCHER, STANLEY (MMN) ROSEWEAR
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 49

the mother of the stepsons

Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
Churcher Albert Edward W. Ham 4a 576
Davey Lily W. Ham 4a 576

Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%)
CHURCHER Lily 36 W. Ham 4a 20

She was Levana's sister - as per census info on page one

DAVEY, ALBERT CHRISTIAN ROSEBEAR
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 458

Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)
Davey George William P Mile End 1c 844
Rosevear Lily Mile End 1c 844

HYETT, WILLIAM BENNETT ROXOCAR
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 32

HYETT, FLORENCE ANNIE ROSEVEAR
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 272

Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%)
HYETT Florence Annie 1 Whitechapel 1c 192

HYETT, THOMAS GEORGE (MMN) ROSEVEAR
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 159

1901

Name: Thomas Hyett
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Levana Hyett
Birth Place: Bethnal Green, London, England
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Great
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 284
Folio: 76
Page Number: 3
Household Schedule Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hyett 22
Levana Hyett 24
Thomas Hyett 1

1911 Census For England & Wales
50 Tavistock Road Stratford, West Ham, London & Essex, England

Albert Edward Churcher Head - Male 34 1877 Bricklayer Portsmouth Hants
Percy Davey Stepson - Male 14 1897 Shop Boy Drapery Stepney London
Albert Christian Davey Stepson - Male 12 1899 School Stepney London
Stanley Churcher Son - Male 2 1909 - Stratford Essex
Elsie Churcher Daughter - Female 4 1907 - Stratford Essex
Thomas Hyett Brother In Law - Male 32 1879 Sweeper Benthal Green London
Levana Hyett Sister In Law Married Female 34 1877 - Notting Hill London
Thomas Hyett Son - Male 11 1900 School Bethall Green London
Willie Hyett Son - Male 9 1902 - Stratford Essex


No sign of a marriage between Hyett and Levana, which is how she was able to marry in 1940 as Rosevear

She claims in 1911 to have been married for 12 years. 3 children - 1 has died

Levana Rosevear is in a GR member's tree. Send him a contact message - if he still uses the e-mail address he registered with the site, he will be notified.

Andrew Hall is also in someone's tree - same advice applies

MCKENNAN, BEATRICE (MMN) FITZPATRICK
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 112

First name(s) Beatrice
Last name McKennan
Sex Female
Birth date ? Feb 1882
Baptism date 19 Mar 1882
Place Aldershot, St Patrick's
Baptism country England
Residence county Hampshire
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name McKennan
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Fitzpatrick
Service branch Army

1901
Farnborough, Hartley Wintney, Hampshire, England

Name: Beatrice McKennan
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Thomas McKennan
Birth Place: Farnborough, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Farnborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Farnborough
Town: Farnborough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration District: Hartley Wintney
Sub-registration District: Farnborough
ED, institution, or vessel: Aldershot Camp
Piece: 1105
Folio: 125
Page Number: 8
Name Age
Thomas McKennan 56..........Widower, b. Ireland
Beatrice McKennan 19

1891

Name: Thomas McKennon
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1846
Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: Farnborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Residence Place: North Camp, Farnborough, Hampshire, England
Registration District: Hartley Wintney
Sub registration district: Farnborough
ED, Institution or Vessel: Head Quarters and Garrison Staff
Piece: 955
Folio: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas McKennon 45 - Warder, Military prison

ROSEVEAR, LEVANA STOIL (MMN) OLIVER
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 101

Name: Levana Rosevear
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Jan 1881
Baptism Place: England, Notting Hill All Saints, Kensington and Chelsea
Father: William Bennett Rosevear
Mother: Annie Rosevear

Name: Levana Rosevear
Gender: Female
Age: 7
Birth Date: 11 Sep 1875
Admission Date: 23 Jul 1883
School: Wornington Road School
Father: Wm B Rosevear
Notes: Wornington Road School (0202) opened 1874, Florence Gladstone Secondary School from 1951. Wornington Road School for Infants closed 1977

Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
OLIVER Annie Elvins St. Austell 5c 219
ROSEVEAR William Bennett St. Austell 5c 219

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Brady Street Dwellings, Brady Street, Whitechapel, London & Middlesex, England

William B Rosevear Head Married Male 40 1851 Carpenter And Joiner Mevagissey, Cornwall, England
Ann E Rosevear Wife Married Female 37 1854 - Mevagissey, Cornwall, England
Lily Rosevear Daughter Single Female 18 1873 Hat & Cap Maker Mevagissey, Cornwall, England
Walter Rosevear Son - Male 16 1875 House Porter Mevagissey, Cornwall, England
Levaisa Rosevear Daughter - Female 14 1877 - London, Middlesex, England
Barnet Rosevear Son - Male 12 1879 - London, Middlesex, England
Percy Rosevear Son - Male 5 1886 - London, Middlesex, England
Giles Rosevear Son - Male 0 1891 - London, Middlesex, England

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
29, Wheatstone Road, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England

William B Rosevear Head Married Male 30 1851 Carpenter & Joiner Cornwall, England
Ann E Rosevear Wife Married Female 27 1854 Dressmaker Cornwall, England
Lily Rosevear Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Cornwall, England
Walter Rosevear Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Cornwall, England
Lavinia S Rosevear Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Kensington, Middlesex, England
Benet O Rosevear Son Single Male 2 1879 - Kensington, Middlesex, England

Name: Levana Churcher
Death Date: 10 May 1945
Death Place: Essex, England
Probate Date: 4 Oct 1946
Wife of Albert Edward Churcher, night watchman, to whom Probate was granted

Marriage of Ivy's parents
Name: Albert E Churcher
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1940
Registration District: Ilford
Inferred County: Essex
Spouse: Levana S Rosevear

Ivy's brother

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Churcher Albert A Rosevear Romford 4a 1077