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15 Feb 2021 16:08 |
HYETT, THOMAS GEORGE (MMN) ROSEVEAR GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 159
1901
Name: Thomas Hyett Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Levana Hyett Birth Place: Bethnal Green, London, England Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Great County/Island: London Country: England Registration District: Bethnal Green Sub-registration District: Bethnal Green North ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Piece: 284 Folio: 76 Page Number: 3 Household Schedule Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hyett 22 Levana Hyett 24 Thomas Hyett 1
1911 Census For England & Wales 50 Tavistock Road Stratford, West Ham, London & Essex, England
Albert Edward Churcher Head - Male 34 1877 Bricklayer Portsmouth Hants Percy Davey Stepson - Male 14 1897 Shop Boy Drapery Stepney London Albert Christian Davey Stepson - Male 12 1899 School Stepney London Stanley Churcher Son - Male 2 1909 - Stratford Essex Elsie Churcher Daughter - Female 4 1907 - Stratford Essex Thomas Hyett Brother In Law - Male 32 1879 Sweeper Benthal Green London Levana Hyett Sister In Law Married Female 34 1877 - Notting Hill London Thomas Hyett Son - Male 11 1900 School Bethall Green London Willie Hyett Son - Male 9 1902 - Stratford Essex
No sign of a marriage between Hyett and Levana, which is how she was able to marry in 1940 as Rosevear
She claims in 1911 to have been married for 12 years. 3 children - 1 has died
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15 Feb 2021 16:13 |
HYETT, WILLIAM BENNETT ROXOCAR GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 32
HYETT, FLORENCE ANNIE ROSEVEAR GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 272
Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%) HYETT Florence Annie 1 Whitechapel 1c 192
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15 Feb 2021 16:30 |
CHURCHER, ELSIE GWENDOLINE (MMN) ROSEVEAR GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 8
CHURCHER, STANLEY (MMN) ROSEWEAR GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 49
the mother of the stepsons
Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%) Churcher Albert Edward W. Ham 4a 576 Davey Lily W. Ham 4a 576
Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%) CHURCHER Lily 36 W. Ham 4a 20
She was Levana's sister - as per census info on page one
DAVEY, ALBERT CHRISTIAN ROSEBEAR GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 458
Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%) Davey George William P Mile End 1c 844 Rosevear Lily Mile End 1c 844
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15 Feb 2021 17:09 |
I've had a look at the 1911 census posted by ErikaH.
Address: 17 Thimblerow, Perth.
George was a self-employed rabbitcatcher, employed on "various farms", born in what looks like "Pirfront", Dumfries. BUT there's no such place, and no George Hall born anywhere in Dumfries-shire 1868-72.
Beatrice, born England, married for 6 years (which matches the Hartley Wintney marriage); 4 children, all still living in 1911.
All the children born in Perth.
Beatrice in 1901??
Beatrice McKennan in the 1901 England Census Name: Beatrice McKennan Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Thomas McKennan Birth Place: Farnborough, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Farnborough Ecclesiastical parish: Farnborough Town: Farnborough County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Registration District: Hartley Wintney <<<<<<<<<<<<< Sub-registration District: Farnborough ED, institution, or vessel: Aldershot Camp Neighbors: Piece: 1105 Folio: 125 Page Number: 8 Household Schedule Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Thomas McKennan 56 - widower, Ireland, warder Beatrice McKennan 19 - housekeeper to father, born Farnborough.
Maybe a possibility for George in 1901 ???
George Hall in the 1901 England Census Name: George Hall Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Scotland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Hound Ecclesiastical parish: Hound St Edward or St Mary County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Registration District: South Stoneham Sub-registration District: St Mary Extra ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Victoria Hospital Neighbors: Piece: 1064 Folio: 124 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age George Hall 28 - hospital nurse.
Or this one??
George Hall in the 1901 England Census Name: George Hall Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation to Head: Soldier - Gunner RMA [ Royal Marine Artillery ] Gender: Male Birth Place: Scotland Civil Parish: Portsmouth Ecclesiastical parish: Milton St James Town: Portsmouth County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration District: Portsmouth Sub-registration District: Kingston and East Southsea ED, institution, or vessel: Eastney Barracks Neighbors: Piece: 991 Folio: 87 Page Number: 29 Household Schedule Number: 1 George Hall 27
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15 Feb 2021 17:20 |
As George was a rabbit catcher in 1911, maybe this is him in 1881 - father a rabbit trapper born in Perthshire:
George Hall in the 1881 Scotland Census Name: George Hall Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relationship: Son Father's Name: George Hall Gender: Male Where born: Dumfriesshire, Durrisdeer Registration Number: 823 Registration district: Durisdeer Civil parish: Durisdeer County: Dumfriesshire Address: Saughhead Occupation: Scholar ED: 5 Household schedule number: 3 Line: 16 Roll: cssct1881_322 Household Members Age Relationship George Hall 44 Head - Kinfauns, Perthshire. Jessie Hall 13 Daughter James Hall 11 Son John Hall 10 Son George Hall 7 Son Robert Hall 6 Son James Blythe 20 Lodger
Birth:
HALL GEORGE M 1873 823/ 5 Durisdeer
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ArgyllGran
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15 Feb 2021 17:24 |
If that's the right George, his father was back in Perthshire in 1901. Arngask is about 11 miles from Perth:
George Hall in the 1901 Scotland Census Name: George Hall Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: kenfanus, Perthshire [ Kinfauns ] Registration Number: 328C Registration district: Arngask Civil parish: Arngask County: Perthshire Address: Rashiefold Occupation: Ag Labourer (goul) ED: 3 Household schedule number: 23 Line: 6 Roll: CSSCT1901_115 Household Members: 1
I'm not spending credits to see what "goul" is a mistranscription of !
George senior was a gamekeeper in Durrisdeer in 1871.
Probably his death:
HALL GEORGE 75 1911 387/ 72 Perth
I don't see the family in 1891.
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15 Feb 2021 17:54 |
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George Hall Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: George Hall Event Type: Christening Event Date: 13 Apr 1834 Event Place: Kinfauns, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Kinfauns, Perth, Scotland Sex: Male Birth Date: 4 Apr 1834 Father's Name: George Hall Mother's Name: Helen Cameron
GS Film Number: 1040334 Digital Folder Number: 007907880 Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11366-4 System Origin: ODM
George Hall in the 1851 Scotland Census Name: George Hall Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relationship: Son Father: George Hall Mother: Hellen Hall Gender: Male Where born: Kinfauns, Perthshire Parish Number: 366 Civil Parish: Kinfauns Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Perthshire Address: Forebank Occupation: Errand Boy ED: 2 Page: 1 Household Schedule Number: 3 Line: 20 Roll: CSSCT1851_77 Household Members: Name Age George Hall 55 - salmon fisher Hellen Hall 50 James Hall 29 Robert Hall 27 Christian Hall 20 John Hall 19 George Hall 17
Also at Forebank in 1841.
In 1861, a ploughman at Petlowie Farmhouse, Kinfauns.
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ArgyllGran
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16 Feb 2021 16:42 |
This is the George who was in Perth in 1911:
UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Soldier Service Records, 1760-1920 View Original Image on Fold3. Name: George Hall Enlistment Age: 28 Birth Date: abt 1873 Birth Place: Pentront Dennfleshire Enlistment Year: 1901 Regiment: Royal Army Medical Corps Regimental Number: 15830 Attestation Paper: Yes
So he may well have been the one who was a nurse at the Royal Victoria Hospital in South Stoneham in 1901.
I suspect "Pentront" or "Pirfront" is meant to be Penpont. Penpont is only about 7 miles from Durrisdeer.
Anyway, he's the only George Hall born in Dumfries-shire 1870-80.
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ArgyllGran
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16 Feb 2021 17:08 |
Re the Durrisdeer family in 1881 census posted above -
the daughter Jessie and son James were born in Newburgh, Fife.
Jessie's baptism:
Janet Hall in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Janet Hall Gender: Female Birth Date: 03 Mar 1868 Birth Place: Newburgh,Fife,Scotland Father: George Hall Mother: Margaret Gorrie FHL Film Number: 6035516
And James's:
James Hall in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: James Hall Gender: Male Birth Date: 07 Sep 1869 Birth Place: Newburgh,Fife,Scotland Father: George Hall Mother: Margaret Gorrie FHL Film Number: 6035516
In 1871 the mother Margaret is also with them, born in Newburgh.
George Hall in the 1871 Scotland Census Name: George Hall Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margaret Hak Gender: Male Where born: Hinfannd, Perthshire Registration Number: 823 Registration District: Durisdeer Civil Parish: Durisdeer County: Dumfriesshire Address: Shaw Head Occupation: Game Keeper ED: 5 Household Schedule Number: 15 Line: 12 Roll: CSSCT1871_183 Household Members: Name Age George Hall 34 Margaret Hak 33 Janet Hak 3 James Hak 18 John Hall 1 Mo
So this is the parents' marriage:
HALL GEORGE GORRIE MARGARET 1865 450/ 17 Newburgh
Margaret Gorrie in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 Name: Margaret Gorrie Gender: Female Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1865 Marriage Place: Newburgh,Fife,Scotland Spouse: George Hall FHL Film Number: 6035516
They had an earlier son George who died in infancy:
Death: HALL GEORGE 1 mmn GORRIE 1867 450/ 24 Newburgh
Margaret and two of her children in 1881:
Margaret Hall in the 1881 Scotland Census Name: Margaret Hall Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relationship: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Newburgh, Fifeshire Registration Number: 369 Registration district: Kinnoull Civil parish: Kinnoull County: Perthshire Address: Sitmelane ED: 2 Household schedule number: 20 Line: 22 Roll: cssct1881_105 Household Members Age Relationship Christina Cameron 56 Head Euphemia Blyth 44 Visitor Margaret Hall 42 Visitor Helen Hall 4 Visitor - Thornhill, Dumfries-shire William Hall 2 Visitor - Thornhill, Dumfries-shire
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16 Feb 2021 17:31 |
Margaret and children in Perth in 1901 - George in 1901 already posted:
Margaret Hall in the 1901 Scotland Census Name: Margaret Hall Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Newburgh, fifeshire Registration Number: 387 Registration district: Perth Civil parish: Perth County: Perthshire Address: 10 Atholl Street ED: 3 Household schedule number: 55 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1901_124 Household Members Age Relationship Margaret Hall 61 Head Jessie Hall 33 Daur (Daughter) Robert Hall 26 Son William Hall 22 Son
I still don't see any of the family in 1891
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Robert Hall in the Perthshire, Scotland, School Registers of Admission and Withdrawals, 1869-1902 Name: Robert Hall Birth Date: 7 Oct 1874 Age: 10 School: Perth North Port Admission Date: 24 Nov 1884 Parent or Guardian: George
Also Ellen Hall, DOB 30/04/1876.
Address: 14 Bridge Lane.
Robert left the school on 10/11/1886, and Ellen on 28/06/1888. No reason stated.
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ErikaH
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17 Feb 2021 11:20 |
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1939
1 Dilleys Cottage Billet Road, Barking And Dagenham, Ilford M.B., Essex, England
Thomas G Hall 08 Apr 1906 Male Boiler Stoker Cable Work Married 23 1
Marriages Jun 1934 (>99%) Hall Thomas G Main Romford 4a 1335 Main Edith Hall Romford 4a 1335
Possibly 6 children - look for their births on freebmd
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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17 Feb 2021 12:55 |
One of the results from a google search for Royal Victoria Hospital, (South Stoneham RD as per 1901 census) for George Hall - nurse.
Actually RVH Netley, originally built as a Military hospital in latter years it was a Military psychiatric hospital, but now a lovely country park on the edge of Southampton Water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netley_Hospital
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ErikaH
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18 Feb 2021 10:44 |
PM sent asking poster to return to her thread. Opened.................
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Hayley
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21 Feb 2021 00:52 |
Hi ,
I would like to thank everyone with all the information you have sent . This means a lot to me , i can finaly move forward <3
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ErikaH
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21 Feb 2021 09:41 |
:-D :-D :-D :-D
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