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ancstry suggests this is edward

student in the civil serice

Name: Edward L K Pratt
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Relationship: Lodger
Birth Year: 1873
Birth Place: Meole Brace, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Residence Place: Lambeth, London, England
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Kennington Second
ED, Institution or Vessel: 23
Neighbors:
Piece: 406
Folio: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur E Lasbury 22
Edward L K Pratt 18
William Guy 31
Source Citation

BUT IT IS ONLY SPECULATION


1881
Berwick Grove, Atcham, Shropshire, England
Edward H Pratt Head Married Male 45 1836 Post Master Of Shrewsbury B A Oxford King's Norton, Worcestershire, England
Mary G Pratt Wife Married Female 36 1845 - Ford, Shropshire, England
Edward L K Pratt Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Meole Brace, Shropshire, England
Edith G Pratt Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Meole Brace, Shropshire, England
Lily M Pratt Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Atcham, Shropshire, England
Annie Hean Servant Single Female 21 1860 Cook Dom Lilleshall, Shropshire, England
Emily Jones Servant Single Female 17 1864 Housemaid Dom Leominster, Herefordshire, EnglandBerwick Grove, Atcham, Shropshire, England

However, just in case -

the same couple arriving in England in 1927:

Edward Pratt
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Edward Pratt
Arrival Age: 52
Birth Date: abt 1875
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1927
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Penang; Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Hong Kong; Moji; Colombo; Batavia; Kobe
Ship Name: Delta
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 120709

Occupation: Malayan CS
Travelling with wife Dorothy Elene.
Adddress: c/o Admiral Clow, The Chalet, Teignmouth, Devon.


And in 1931:

Edward Pratt
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Edward Pratt
Arrival Age: 56
Birth Date: abt 1875
Port of Departure: Hakodate, Japan
Arrival Date: 8 Jul 1931
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Penang; Marseilles
Ship Name: Calchas
Shipping Line: Blue Funnel Line
Official Number: 143742

Occupation: Malaya CS
Address: The Haven, Torpoint
Travelling with wife Dorothy E

BUT
if Winson is correct in thinking his Edward retired in 1929 - those records can't be for the right man.

No help, but just because it's there:

Dorothy Eleanor Clow
in the Jamaica, Civil Registration Birth, Marriage, and Death Records, 1878-1930
Name: Dorothy Eleanor Clow
Gender: Female
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1884
Birth Place: Port Royal, Kingston, Jamaica
Father: George John Clow
Mother: Eleanor Lewis
FHL Film Number: 0538754

Dorothy Eleanor Clow
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Dorothy Eleanor Clow
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Post Royal, Resident, Jamaica
Civil Parish: Gerrans
Country: England
Street Address: Tregassa, Portscatho, Cornwall
Marital status: Single
Registration District Number: 296
Sub-registration District: St Just
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Piece: 13815
Household Members:
Name Age
Eleanor Clow 59
Dorothy Eleanor Clow 26
Annie Burrows 22


Biography of Dorothy's father:

https://tinyurl.com/y2rdov2y

Edward Pratt
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Edward Pratt
Gender: Male
Age: 36
Birth Date: 1875
Marriage Date: 1911
Marriage Place: Saint Gerrans, Cornwall, England
Father: Edward Pratt
Spouse: Dorothy Eleanor Clow
FHL Film Number: 246794
Reference ID: 2:S5CT7X

What a pity they married after the 1911 census, and left before the 1939 Register!

Edward Pratt in the records posted by Maddie:

the image of the 1930 travel record shows he was travelling with his wife Dorothy Eleanor, 46.
Their UK address was The Haven, Torpaint, Cornwall.

Country of last permanent residence: "Other parts of the British Empire".
Country of intended future permanent residence: FMS


Possible marriage ??

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Clow Dorothy E Truro 5c 251
Pratt Edward Truro 5c 251

clutching at straws

Name: Edward Pratt
Gender: Male
Initiation Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1875
Initiation Date: 16 Apr 1921
First Payment Year on Register: 1921
Year Range: 1910-1921
Profession: Legal Adviser
Lodge: Johore Royal Lodge
Lodge Location: Johore Bahru Malay Peninsular
Lodge Number: 3946
Folio Number: 177

Edward
Last name Pratt
Gender Male
Age 55
Birth year 1875
Marital status M
Occupation Barrister
Departure year 1930
Departure day 26
Departure month 4
Departure port Birkenhead
Destination port Penang
Destination Penang
Country Malaysia
Destination country Malaysia
Ship name Elpenor
Ship official number 137536
Ship master's first name R J
Ship master's last name Wilson
Shipping line The Blue Funnel
Ship destination port Japan
Ship destination country Japan
Ship registered tonnage 4824

with
Dorothy Eleanor
Last name Pratt
Title MRS
Gender Female
Age 46
Birth year 1884
Marital status M
Departure year 1930
Departure day 26
Departure month 4
Departure port Birkenhead

Name: Edward Pratt
Arrival Age: 52
Birth Date: abt 1875
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1927
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Penang; Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Hong Kong; Moji; Colombo; Batavia; Kobe
Ship Name: Delta
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 120709
colonial service
with dorothy

Do you know where in England he retired to?

How do you know about him?

That's a pity!
OK, change of tack.

Antwerp Edgar Pratt
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Antwerp Edgar Pratt
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Birth Date: 1852
Marriage Date: 19 Jul 1882
Marriage Place: Newchurch, Hampshire, England
Father: Charles Pratt
Spouse: Alice Mary Spanner
FHL Film Number: 1470883
Reference ID: Item 16


Antwerp E Pratt
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Antwerp E Pratt
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1852
Spouse: Alice M Pratt
Child: Dorothy M S Pratt
Charles H Pratt
Edgar E B Pratt
Frances A N Pratt
Birth Place: Isle of Wight, Ryde
Civil Parish: Ryde
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Residence Place: Ryde, Ryde, Hampshire, England
Registration District: Isle Of Wight
Sub registration district: Ryde
ED, Institution or Vessel: 9
Neighbors:
Piece: 891
Folio: 55
Household Members:
Name Age
Antwerp E Pratt 39
Alice M Pratt 33
Dorothy M S Pratt 6
Charles H Pratt 4
Edgar E B Pratt 2
Frances A N Pratt 1
Eva Warren 25


Alice Mary G Pratt
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Alice Mary G Pratt
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Isle of Wight, Ryde
Civil Parish: Hove
Ecclesiastical parish: St Patrick
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Steyning
Sub-registration District: Shoreham
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Neighbors:
Piece: 935
Folio: 127
Page Number: 3
Household Schedule Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Mary G Pratt 43
Dorothy M S Pratt 16 - Southampton
Charles Henry Pratt 14 - Southampton
Edgar Chas B Pratt 12 - China
Francis Anne N Pratt 11 - Ryde, IOW
Feliz B Thomas Pratt 9 - Ryde
Carlo Francis J E Pratt 2 - Ryde
Helen Isabella Sharp 24


Antwerp Edgar Pratt
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Antwerp Edgar Pratt
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ryde Isle of Wight
Civil Parish: Hanwell
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Elthorne Park Road, Hanwell W
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Naturalist
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration District: Hanwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Piece: 6854
Household Members:
Name Age
Antwerp Edgar Pratt 59
Alice Mary Pratt 53
Dorothy Mary Longhurst Pratt 23
Frances Anne Norma Pratt 21
Carlos Joseph Francis Eugine Pratt 12


No son called Edward.

Looking at Edgar, just in case -
according to this travel record, when he went to Belawan, Sumatrra with his wife and daughter, he was a planter.
So not him.

Mr Edgar Charles Bothwell Pratt
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mr Edgar Charles Bothwell Pratt
Gender: Male
Age: 46
Birth Date: abt 1889
Departure Date: 9 Aug 1935
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Belawan
Ship Name: Marnix Van Sint Aldegonde
Shipping Line: Nederland Line Royal Dutch Mail
Master: Kgvander Laan

Hello Everyone,

Ok,thanks.Captain Edward Pratt didn't served in India before.He was served in Straits Settlements - Singapore & Malaya as magistrate,judge and retired in 1929.Went back to England.He was married.But I don't have any information about his parents,wife or children.I don't know when he was died too.

He was barrister of the Middle Temple.I suspect he was a son of Antwerp Edgar Pratt(1852-1924).

Can you please try to help me to find more information about him?.

Best wishes,
Winson Saw

It's a better name for acting those parts than William Pratt.

Perhaps "Boris" based his acting persona on his father?

"Pratt was bow-legged, had a lisp, and stuttered as a young boy"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Karloff

No wonder, with a childhood like that.

Love that Boris Karloff was his brother.

Rose

sorry missed it

Maddie said, "could he have been married before".

Yes, he was a widower when he married Eliza.

Marriage cert details posted earlier.

speculation

Edward
Last name Pratt
Marriage year 1818
Marriage date 20 Jul 1818
Spouse's first name Margaret
Spouse's last name Sheals
Place Bombay
Presidency Bombay
Groom's father's first name -
Groom's father's last name -
Bride's father's first name -
Bride's father's last name -
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948, :
Archive reference N-3-5

Name: Edward John Pratt
Birth Date: 1826
Birth Place: Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India
Death Date: 1897
Death Place: City of Paris, Île-de-France, France
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Eliza Sarah Pratt
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...

Name: Eliza Sarah Pratt
Birth Date: 25 Jun 1848
Birth Place: Pune (Poona), Maharashtra, India
Death Date: 15 Dec 1906
Death Place: Enfield, London Borough of Enfield, Greater London, England
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Edward John Pratt
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...

froma tree on ancestry -----. MA marktaylor53
father

Edward John Pratt
1827–1897
Birth 1827 • Bombay
Death 1897


1827 • Bombay

1827

(AGE)
Birth of Son Edward Millard Pratt(1865–1949)
29 Aug 1865 • Paris, France

1865

38
Birth of Son George Marlowe Pratt(1867–1904)
13 Apr 1867 • Bombay, Maharashtra, India

1867

40
Birth of Son Charles Rary Pratt(1869–)
abt 1869 • Vingorte, Bombay, Maharashtra, India

1869

42
Birth of Son Frederick Greville Pratt(1869–1949)
4 Dec 1869 • Bombay, Maharashtra, India

1869

42
Birth of Son David Cameron Pratt(1871–1952)
3 Nov 1871 • Kawar, Bombay, Maharashtra, India

1871

44
Birth of Daughter Julia Honoria Pratt(1874–)
abt 1874 • Coomtala, Bombay, Maharashtra, India

1874

47
Birth of Son John Thomas Pratt Kt(1876–1970)
13 Jan 1876 • Coomtala, Bombay, Maharashtra, India

1876

49
Residence
1881 • Camberwell, London, England

Marital Status: Married; Relationship to Head: Head

1881

54
Birth of Son Richard Septimus Pratt(1882–1975)
11 Oct 1882 • Camberwell, London, England

1882

55
Birth of Son William Henry "Boris Karloff" Pratt(1887–1968)
23 November 1887 • Camberwell, London, England

1887

60
Divorce
1889
Eliza Sarah Millard

(1848–1893)

1889

62
Death
1897

mother

Eliza Sarah Millard
1848–1893
Birth 25 JUNE 1848 • Poona, Bombay, India
Death DEC 1893 • Marylebone, London, England

in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

Name: James Millard
Gender: Male
Spouse: Eliza Julia
Child: Eliza Sarah Millard

Name: James Milliard
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Birth Date: 1807
Marriage Date: 26 Apr 1845
Marriage Place: Deesa, Bombay, India
Father: David Milliard
Spouse: Eliza Edwards
FHL Film Number: 523844

Name: Eliza Julia Millard
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Age: 34
Birth Date: 1830
Death Date: 13 Jun 1864
Burial Date: 14 Jun 1864
Burial Place: Bombay, Bombay, India
Spouse: James Millard
FHL Film Number: 523923

could he have been married before

Edward John Pratt
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
10 Apr 1849
Event Place:
Bombay Presidency, India
Event Place (Original):
Bycullah, Bombay, India
Sex:
Male
Age:
28
Birth Year (Estimated):
1821
Father's Name:
Edward Pratt
Spouse's Name:
Juliana Cambell
Spouse's Sex:
Female
Spouse's Age:
17
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
1832
Spouse's Father's Name:
Archibald Douglas Campbell

Edward John Pratt
Sex: Male
Wife: Juliana
Daughter: Emma Caroline Margaret Pratt
Other information in the record of Emma Caroline Margaret Pratt
from India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

Name:
Emma Caroline Margaret Pratt
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
2 Jun 1850
Event Place:
Bombay Presidency, India
Event Place (Original):
Bombay, Bombay, India
Sex:
Female
Birth Date:
12 Jan 1850
Father's Name:
Edward John Pratt
Mother's Name:
Juliana

Edward John Pratt
Sex: Male
Wife: Juliane
Son: Edward Pratt
Other information in the record of Edward Pratt
from India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

Name:
Edward Pratt
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
14 Dec 1850
Event Place:
Bombay Presidency, India
Event Place (Original):
Bombay, Bombay, India
Sex:
Male
Birth Date:
1 Dec 1850
Father's Name:
Edward John Pratt
Mother's Name:
Juliana

Juliana
Last name Pratt
Birth year 1832
Age 19
Burial date 03 Jan 1851
Place Bombay,St Thomas
Presidency Bombay
Archive
The British Library
Archive Reference N-3-25
Folio -
Page 55

Edward's wife's first marriage:

Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
Lord Gertrude Augusta Croydon 2a 558
Proes Ernest Marinus Croydon 2a 558

Birth of child:

PROES, GEOFFREY ERNEST SULLIVAN mmn LORD
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 264


Geoffrey Ernest Sullivan Proes
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Geoffrey Ernest Sullivan Proes
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 30 Dec 1902
Baptism Place: Penge, Surrey, England
Father:
Ernest Marinus Proes
Mother:
Gertrude Augusta Proes
FHL Film Number: 2145476
Reference ID: item 10 p 69



Geoffrey Ernest Sullivan Proes
in the Westminster, London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935
Name: Geoffrey Ernest Sullivan Proes
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 31
Birth Date: abt 1903
Marriage Date: 28 Jul 1934
Marriage Place: St Mark, North Audley Street, London, Westminster, England
Parish as it Appears: St Mark's, North Audley Street
Father: Ernest Marimes Proes
Spouse: Nancy Madeleine Churcher



Major Geoffrey Ernest Sullivan Proes
in the Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current
Name: Major Geoffrey Ernest Sullivan Proes
Death Date: 19 Dec 1941
Cemetery: Sai Wan Memorial
Burial or Cremation Place: Chai Wan, Hong Kong Island, Hong Kong



Gertrude's first husband was also in India;

Ernest Marinus Proes
in the Indian Army Quarterly List for 1 January 1912
Name: Ernest Marinus Proes
Birth Date: 28 Oct 1871
First Commission Date: 18 Feb 1898
Notes: G. G. O. 184, 18 Feb 98
Page Number: 156
Rank: 2nd-Lieutenant
Company: Indian Army Reserve of Officers - Infantry


But born in South Africa:

Ernest Marinus Proes
in the UK, Naturalisation Certificates and Declarations, 1870-1916
Name: Ernest Marinus Proes
Relationship: Self (Head)
Record Type: Certificate
Birth Date: abt 1872
Birth Place: Pretoria, South Africa
Residence Year: 1893
Residence Place: Surrey, England
Father: Bernard Cornelius Ernest Proes
Mother: Frances Elizabeth Proes



Ernest Marinus Proes
in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: Ernest Marinus Proes
Gender: M (Male)
Birth Date: 28 Sep 1871
Death Date: 27 Nov 1940
Cemetery: Paignton Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Paignton, Torbay Unitary Authority, Devon, England

Photo of gravestone on findagrave shows a lot of inscription, but not clearly enough to read.

Anyway - not relevent to Edward Pratt.

Possible children - but you'd need to see the certs to be sure:

PRATT, JOHN SHEALS mmn LORD
GRO Reference: 1914 S Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 146


PRATT, THOMAS JAMES mmn LORD
GRO Reference: 1916 J Quarter in RICHMOND Volume 02A Page 997

PRATT, JOAN FRANCES mmn LORD
GRO Reference: 1919 J Quarter in RICHMOND Volume 02A Page 683


[ EDIT: No , not Thomas 1916. His parents were Thomas Pratt and Alice Lord.
Father was a soldier and died in Burma in 1933.]

Johnn Sheals Pratt (DOB 4/6/1914) became a doctor; was a resident medical officer in City Hospital, Chester in 1939; married Mary Elizabeth Selby-Bigge in 1951; died in London in 1956.

Edward Millard's marriage:

Edward M Pratt
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edward M Pratt
Spouse Surname: Lord Or Proes
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: St Martin
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 1302
Records on Page:
Name
lGertrude A Lord
Edward M Pratt
Gertrude A Proes