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One of Hazel's sons

First name(s) TERENCE ROBERT
Last name DOUTCH
Gender Male
Birth day 17
Birth month 3
Birth year 1948
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1996
District Bournemouth
District number 4271A
Register number A8D
Entry number 168
Date of registration mm/yy 0496
County Dorset

No record of a marriage for him in England/Wales

You can use freebmd to look for the births of the children

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

We can't post them on here as they are too recent.

Hi, I am really new to this and finding it quite difficult to more around the site. Thank you Erika for your guidance. I am Gordon Green's daughter and you are correct with the siblings.The Green family weren't good at keeping in touch so I did not know Hazel's married name although I did know it was foreign sounding, I thought that she did have children. I don't know if I am replying to everyone, I do hope so. Thank you all for your input and look forward to hearing from you. Maddie you are correct on the date of birth of Ronald and Hazel. Take care

Thanks for the confirmtion of my post, Shirley.

Have sent PM to OP explaining how to look at replies and acknowledge them

DOUTCH, HAZEL year of birth 1917
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2007 in Bournemouth (4271D) Reg 1D001 Entry Number 182

On the ER to 2007 In Bournemouth in what appears to be some sort of care home

Died in Bournemouth JAS 2007

She is listed first as Green and then Doutch on Findmypast.

The birth on the 1939 register is correct as per the OP's initial post.

Kath. x

Annoyingly, Ancestry has "opened" a lot of 1939 records in its transcriptions, but on the image the names are still blacked out.

That 1939 posted by Shirley is one of them.

In the image, is she listed originally as Green, and then changed to Doutch? That's what should be the case if she married in 1942.

Did she marry before 1939 or after ?

47, Upper Holloway, Islington, St Pancras, London, England

DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Albert E Hammond 02 Dec 1915 Male Barman Single 110 6
H Doutch (Green) 20 Aug 1917 Female Paid Domestic Help Single 110 2
E Johnson 28 Jul 1907 Male Licensed Victualler Married 110 3
Alice A Johnson 28 Jan 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Married 110 4
The record for this person is officially closed.
Michael F Quinn 23 Aug 1920 Male Barman Single 110 7
View first 5 occupants
Ref: RG101/0493J/006/9 Letter Code: ASSV

3 days diff in birth


Marriages Jun 1942
Doutch Robert Green Lambeth 1d 536
Green Hazel Doutch Lambeth 1d 536


6 possible children show on freebmd

Siblings??????

Births Dec 1918 (>99%)
Green Gordon Griffiths W.Derby 8b 681
Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Green Edna Griffiths W. Derby 8b 100_
Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Green Edward Griffiths W.Derby 8b 902
Births Dec 1925 (>99%)
Green Elsie A Griffiths W.Derby 8b 1050
Births Dec 1928 (>99%)
Green Kenneth Griffiths W.Derby 8b 1023

The brother in 1955, with a Josephine Green:

Ronald E Green
in the Liverpool, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1970
Name: Ronald E Green
Residence Year: 1955
Street Address: Smollett Street, 6 40
Residence Place: Lancashire, England



Probable marriage:

Marriages Jun 1943 (>99%)
Arrowsmith Josephine Green Liverpool S 8b 336
Green Ronald Arrowsmith Liverpool S. 8b 336


Cremation:

Ronald E Green
in the England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2016
Name: Ronald E Green
Age: 71
Record Type: Cremation
Cremation Date: 7 Jul 1989
Burial Place: Liverpool, Merseyside, England


There were two Green/Arrowsmith biirths in Liverpool - 1944 and 1948.

Neither of them is on anyone's tree on GR.

The 1944 child may have married in Liverpool in 1966, and had a daughter in 1974.

If so, they were living in Liverpool up to 2014 per ER, and may still be at the same address, as there's no sale record for that property.

Also, they're in the online BT Phonebook at that address, under the wife's first initial.

Ronald Edward
Last name Green
Birth year 1917
Birth date 23 Aug 1917
Baptism year 1917
Baptism date 03 Oct 1917
Baptism place Everton, St Saviour
Denomination Church Of England
Diocese Liverpool
Residence 95 Stanfield RD
Father's first name(s) Edward
Father's occupation Boiler Maker
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Lancashire

Hazel
Last name Green
Birth year 1917
Birth date 23 Aug 1917
Baptism year 1917
Baptism date 03 Oct 1917
Baptism place Everton, St Saviour
Denomination Church Of England
Diocese Liverpool
Residence 95 Stanfield RD
Father's first name(s) Edward
Father's occupation Boiler Maker
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Lancashire
Country England
Archive
Liverpool Record Office
Archive reference

Hazel isn't in any GR tree, so it's unlikely that anyone on here is connected

I made the same mistake, and had to delete ;-) ;-) ;-)

ok deleted

1939 for the twin
95 Stanfield Road, Liverpool, Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

Ann J Griffiths 09 Nov 1866 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 149 1
Elsie Reilly 16 Jul 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 149 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
Ronald E Green 20 Aug 1917 Male Ship Steward s.s. Adda Single 149 4

Pam

WHO did she marry?

WHEN did she marry?

Have you any reason to think she had children?

That's the wrong woman, Maddie

Check birth on freebmd - and DoB as per OP

Welcome to the boards Pam.

Do you know Hazel's married name as Green is quite a common surname?

This looks like it could be her brother's death. The informant on the certificate could have information about Hazel:-

First name(s) RONALD EDWARD
Last name GREEN
Gender Male
Birth day 20
Birth month 8
Birth year 1917
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1989
District Liverpool
Register number 1089
County Lancashire
Volume 36
Page 758
Country England

Kath. x

I am trying to trace the family of Hazel Green born in Liverpool 20 August 1917 along with her twin Ronald. Hazel married and went to live in London. I would very much like to contact her family. I am Hazels niece.