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Birth Dates Please

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Stephen

Stephen Report 6 Apr 2020 13:17

Thanks ArgyllGran for the extra info.
Jill

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2020 12:04

Photo of Alexander & Alice's gravestone, with bio added by a Pamela Knights (Lishman).

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108560543/alice-emiline-lishman

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2020 12:03

Samuel T Lishman
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Samuel T Lishman
Birth Date: 1873
Death Date: 1954
Death Place: Mansfield, Bristol County, Massachusetts, United States of America
Cemetery: Spring Brook Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Mansfield, Bristol County, Massachusetts, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Father: Alexander Rufus Lishman
Mother: Alice Emiline Lishman
Spouse: Francis E Lishman
Children: Frederick Cleverly Lishman

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2020 12:01

Marriage of Samuel T from the 1881 census above:

Samuel T Lishman
in the Massachusetts, Marriage Records, 1840-1915
Name: Samuel T Lishman
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Marriage Date: 23 May 1900
Marriage Place: Norton, Massachusetts, USA
Father: Alexander R Lishman
Mother: Alice E Treen <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Frances E Guild

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Apr 2020 11:49

If this is the right family, according to 1881, the whole family were born in England.

However, that's not borne out by FreeBMD, neither births nor marriage.

Alice E. Lishmen
in the 1881 Census of Canada
Name: Alice E. Lishmen
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Age: 28
Birth Year: 1853
Birthplace: England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Religion: Methodist Church of Canada
Nationality: English
Province: Nova Scotia
District Number: 22
District: Cumberland
Sub-District Number: E
Subdistrict: Wentworth
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Lishmen 38
Alice E. Lishmen 28
Samuel T. Lishmen 8
Fredrick W. Lishmen 6
Julia A. Lishmen 4
Alfred J. Lishmen

Stephen

Stephen Report 6 Apr 2020 06:00

many thanks will do some digging, thanks again.
Jill

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Apr 2020 05:26

She is malinda sister
1871 census
Samuel Treen Male 1823 Nova Scotia
Susan Treen Female 1826 Nova Scotia
Alice E Treen Female 1854 Nova Scotia
Lewis A Treen Male 1860 Nova Scotia
Augusta Treen Male 1864 Nova Scotia
Clara Treen Female 1866 Nova Scotia
Melinda Treen Female 1868 Nova Scotia
Elizabeth Treen Female 1800 Nova Scotia
Daniel Brown Male 1841 Nova Scotia


However there’s no online record of her actual marriage to Alexander lishman to confirm it’s the same lady

It does look like it could be though

Stephen

Stephen Report 6 Apr 2020 02:34

To Shirley and others, can you do me a favour, I have a sister to Malinda named Alice Emiline Treen born 1853 d 1931, now I have Alice Treen married to a Alexander Rufus Lishman, the Lishmans are my family, if there is no Alice in the Treens side then that wipes out my connection to the Treens, this is the only thing now that I need that connection, many thanks Jill. :-S

Stephen

Stephen Report 6 Apr 2020 02:01

Thanks Shirley for your help, I thought Edward would have gone by his name Edward, it is so confusing when they use a alis name now to read and learn, many thanks.
Jill

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 15:44

Was just me !!

:-D

Stephen

Stephen Report 5 Apr 2020 12:42

Thanks to all of you for your help many thanks :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 10:46

She was Susan Williams

Susan Williams
Gender: Female
Spouse Name: Samuel Treen
Spouse
Birth Place: Ns
Spouse Birth Year: 1821
Number Pages: 1

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 10:44

Looks like her parents and married son and his children

1891 census
Samull Treen
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Age: 68
Birth Year: abt 1823
Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Residence Date: 1891
Residence Place: Wentworth, Cumberland, Nova Scotia, Canada
Relation to Head: Head
Religion: Methodist
Occupation: Farmer
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
French Canadian: No
Spouse's name: Susan Treen
Father's Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Mother's Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samull Treen 68
Susan Treen 64
Lewis Treen 30
Agness Treen 24
Maggie Treen 5
Herbert Treen 3
Clara Treen 1
Samuel Teichman 18 grandson
Enumeration District: 30

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 08:45

For Caroline are you meaning this one

Carolyn E Blackinton
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1890
Birth Place: Attleboro, Massachusetts
Marriage Date: 10 Nov 1914
Marriage Place: Worcester, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
Father: Byron R Blackinton
Mother: Clara E Blackinton
Spouse: Robert E Joyce


So a cousin of Percy Lee Blackington

And buried in the family grave as listed above

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 08:32

He is buried with his parents
There are others on the same gravestone

It reads

Edgar L. Blackinton
1860-1918
Linnie [Malinda A. Treen, his wife]
1867-1935
Percy L.
1887-1933
Robert R. Joyce
1916-1991
Mary Mc C., His Wife
1918-1987
Byron F. Blackinton (brother of Edgar )
1864-1931
Clara, His Wife
1865-1943
Robert E. Joyce
1883-1932
Caroline, His Wife
1890-1952

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 08:30

Percy.s obit says

Son of Edgar Lee Blackinton, also known as Edward & Malinda A. Treen, also known as Lilly.

1900 At age 13 he was living in Providence, RI at the home of his parents.

1910 & 1920 was living in Providence, RI at the home of his mother. His father died in 1918. Percy was a Silversmith and unmarried.

1930 was living at the home of his mother and working as a Silversmith.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 08:26


Linnie Blackinton
in the Rhode Island, State Censuses, 1865-1935
Linnie Blackinton
Birth Date: abt 1871
Birth Place: Canada Other
Gender: Female
Age: 44
Relationship: Mother
Enumeration Year: 1915
Township: Providence Ward 9
County: Providence
Enumeration District or Census Tract: 354
Line Number: 9
Household number: 47
Volume Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Percy Blackinton 26 occ silversmith
Linnie Blackinton 44

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 08:22

She was known as Linnie
View 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Lilly Blackinton
[Linnie Blackinton]
Age: 30
Birth Date: Mar 1870
Birthplace: Nova Scotia, Canada
Home in 1900: Providence Ward 8, Providence, Rhode Island
Ward of City: 8
Street: Chafin Avenue
House Number: 7
Sheet Number: 9
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 156 159
Family Number: 217
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1885
[1895]
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Edward Blackinton
Marriage Year: 1886
Father's Birthplace: Nova Scotia, Canada
Mother's Birthplace: Nova Scotia, Canada, England
Mother: Number of Living Children: 1
Mother: How Many Children: 1
Years in US: 15
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Blackinton 40 occ shipping clerk
Lilly Blackinton 30
Percy L Blackinton 13

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 07:56

Not seeing a Caroline Joyce in any records

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Apr 2020 07:51

Edgar Lee Blackinton
Birth Date: Jan 1860
Birth Place: Attleboro, Bristol County, Massachusetts, United States of America
Death Date: 25 Jan 1918
Death Place: Providence, Providence County, Rhode Island, United States of America
Cemetery: Woodlawn Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Attleboro, Bristol County, Massachusetts, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Father: Amos Sweet Blackinton
Mother: Caroline Elizabeth Blackinton
Spouse: Malinda A. Blackinton
Children: Percy Lee Blackinton
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...