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Nina

Nina Report 4 Nov 2019 20:08

Thank you to everyone who has replied. It will take me a while to sort through your replies. A friend in Canada was asking if anybody knew the family as she is related to David, one of the sons. xx

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2019 16:54

John & Rachel in 1901:

David Lewis
in the 1901 Wales Census
Name: David Lewis
Age in 1901: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father: John Lewis
Mother: Rachel Lewis
Gender: Male
Where born: Cefn Coed, Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Vaynor
Town: Cefn Coed y Cymmer
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gwendoline
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 5032
Folio: 11
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lewis 66
Rachel Lewis 62
David Lewis 19
Elizabeth Evans 28 - daughter, married
Mary Evans 5 - grand-daughter
John Evans 3 - grandson
David Jenkins 23 - boarder

There's more than one marriage which might be Elizabeth's, pre-1896, and more than one John or Mary Evans/Lewis birth.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2019 16:39

As you've posted on the "Find Living Relatives" board, Nina, I assume you're looking for descendants of John and Rachel?


The daughter Mary Ann (see 1881 census above) seems to have married yet another Lewis:

???
Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%)
LEWIS Alexander Bedwelty 11a 152
LEWIS Mary Ann Bedwelty 11a 152


Mary Ann Lewis
in the 1891 Wales Census
Name: Mary Ann Lewis
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Alexander Lewis
Gender: Female
Where born: Cefn Coed, Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Vaynor
Ecclesiastical parish: Vaynor
Town: Cefn coed
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors:
Piece: 4441
Folio: 60
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Lewis 28
Mary Ann Lewis 27
John Lewis 4 - Rhymnyey, Monmouthshire, Wales
Thomas Lewis 1 - Cefn Coed, Breconshire, Wales


Mary Ann Lewis
in the 1901 Wales Census
Name: Mary Ann Lewis
Age in 1901: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse: Alexander Lewis
Gender: Female
Where born: Cefn Coed, Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Vaynor
Town: Cefn Coed y Cymmer
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gwendoline
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 5032
Folio: 9
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Lewis 38
Mary Ann Lewis 37
John Lewis 14
Thomas Lewis 11
Ann Lewis 7
David Lewis 4
Alexander Lewis 11 Months


It's hard to pinpoint the children's births, in order to try following them into marriage and parenthood. They don't have unusual names.

For instance, there are four births of boys named Thomas Lewis, with mms Lewis, in Merthyr Tydfil reg district 1889-1891.

LEWIS, ALEXANDER mms LEWIS
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 756


Alexander junior in 1939:

Alexander Lewis
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Alexander Lewis
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 12 Apr 1900
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 15 Field Street
Residence Place: Vaynor and Penderyn, Breconshire, Wales
Occupation: Colliery Hewer
Schedule Number: 206
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: XBJA
Registration district: 610B:1
Inferred Spouse: Margaret Lewis
Household Members:
Name
Alexander Lewis
Margaret Lewis
(and one closed record)

Thank goodness he broke family tradition and didn't marry another Lewis - though Williams isn't much better to trace:

Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%)
Lewis Alexander Williams Merthyr T. 11a 1273
Williams Margaret M Lewis Merthyr Tydfil 11a 1273


A close look at the 1939 record on Ancestry seems to show part of a notification of change of name at some time, so presumably the closed record in 1939 is a girl.
However, that still leaves a choice of 25 Lewis /Williams female births in Merthyr 1927-39.

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Nov 2019 00:01

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
LEWIS, ALICE WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION Volume 26 Page 416

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Breconshire Marriages And Banns (but would make him young when married)

First name(s) John
Last name Lewis
Birth year -
Event year 1826
Banns year -
Marriage year 1826
Marriage date 02 Oct 1826
Marriage place Y Faenor
Residence Vaynor
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Spouse's last name Williams
Spouse's birth year -
Spouse's residence Vaynor
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage
Record set Breconshire Marriages And Banns
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Wales, Great Britain
Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

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Faenor, Breconshire, Wales Genealogy - FamilySearch
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VAINOR, or VAYNOR (Y FAENOR or MAENOR), a parish, in the union of Merthyr- Tydvil, ... For more information see Vaynor, Breconshire at Genuki.org.uk ...

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Nov 2019 23:47

??? This and next post very tentative at the moment - just looking around and wanting to post as now too tired to concentrate

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HARRIS, RACHEL EDWARDS
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION Volume 26 Page 382

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Nov 2019 23:34

??
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Vaynor, Merthyr Tydfil, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Lewis Head Married Male 41 1810 Black Smith Llandilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Ann Lewis Wife Married Female 36 1815 - Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales
Alice Lewis Daughter - Female 9 1842 - Coven, Brecknockshire, Wales
Rachel Harris Step Daughter - Female 9 1842 - Coven, Brecknockshire, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Nov 2019 23:32

??
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
159, High Street, Vainor (Brecon), Merthyr Tydfil, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Lewis Head Married Male 46 1835 Platelayers Labourer Carmarthenshire, Wales
Rachel Lewis Wife Married Female 42 1839 - Vaynor, Brecknockshire, Wales
James Lewis Son Single Male 21 1860 Coal Miner Vaynor, Brecknockshire, Wales
Mary Ann Lewis Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Dom Servant Unemployed Vaynor, Brecknockshire, Wales
Thomas Lewis Son Single Male 13 1868 Coal Miner Vaynor, Brecknockshire, Wales

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At last - an approx. age for her Father

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Field Street, Vaynor, Merthyr Tydfil, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Lewis Head Married Male 57 1834 Collier Carmarthenshire, Wales
Rachel Lewis Wife Married Female 53 1838 - Breconshire, Wales
David Lewis Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Breconshire, Wales
John Lewis Father In Law Widower Male 82 1809 Retired Blacksmith Breconshire, Wales
William Evans Son In Law Married Male 24 1867 Haulier In Colliery Breconshire, Wales
Elizabeth Evans Daughter Married Female 18 1873 - Breconshire, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Nov 2019 23:12

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Field Street, Vaynor, Merthyr Tydfil, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Lewis Head Married Male 37 1834 - Breconshire, Wales
Rachel Lewis Wife - Female 32 1839 - Breconshire, Wales
James Lewis Son - Male 14 1857 Haulier Breconshire, Wales

John is a Miner born Ystradgynlais, Breconshire
Rachel and James born Cefn Coed y Cymmer (the village lies within the community of Vaynor)

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Nov 2019 22:53

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Vaynor, Merthyr Tydfil, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Roger Vaughn Head Married Male 70 1781 Publican Brecknockshire, Wales
Mary Vaughn Wife Married Female 61 1790 - Brecknockshire, Wales
Roger Vaughn Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Blacksmith Brecknockshire, Wales
Watkin Vaughn Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Blacksmith Brecknockshire, Wales
Samuel Davis Visitor Unmarried Male 28 1823 Blacksmith Brecknockshire, Wales
Elizabeth Vaughn Servant - Female 15 1836 House Servant Brecknockshire, Wales
Rachel Lewis Servant - Female 13 1838 House Servant Brecknockshire, Wales <<<<<<<<<<

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Nov 2019 22:37

Probable

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Vaynor, Merthyr Tydfil, Breconshire, Wales


John Lewis Head Married Male 26 1835 Ironstone Miner Llandybie, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Rachell Lewis Wife Married Female 22 1839 - Vaynor, Brecknockshire, Wales
James Lewis Son - Male 1 1860 - Vaynor, Brecknockshire, Wales

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Nov 2019 22:34

Just for ref the marriage cert is on Find my past which gives Rachel's age as 20 father John occupation Smith, and John Lewis of full age father James.

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Nov 2019 22:29

Hi Mina , have you tried searching trees by clicking on 'Search' at top of page? Have you found the couple on a census and did they have children?

Nina

Nina Report 1 Nov 2019 22:09

Are there any people from John and Rachel Lewis. They were married in 1859 in Breconshire. John Lewis was of full age and Rachel Lewis was 20. Both of them had the name Lewis when they got married.
Thank you