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19 Aug 2019 13:35 |
Harry and Sybil/Sybilla senior were together in Carshalton 1935-9 - already posted.
Here in 1932 - and also in 1931:
Sybilla Garbett in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Sybilla Garbett Year: 1932 County or Borough: Islington Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington East and North Street address: 61 Oxford Road
Harry's there on his own (at least with no other Garbetts) in 1925:
Harry Garbett in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Harry Garbett Year: 1925 County or Borough: Islington Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington Street address: 61 OXFORD ROAD-conid
Can't find any clues as to who Sybil(la) was - supposedly born Spenser, 25 May 1899.
No birth of a Sybil* Spenser in 1899. No sign of one in 1901 or 1911. There are a few Sibyl Spencers born around the right time, but not exactly.
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19 Aug 2019 11:52 |
Death of Sybilla's husband:
Thomas Leonard Guthrie in the Australia and New Zealand, Find A Grave Index, 1800s-Current Name: Thomas Leonard Guthrie Death Date: 1976 Cemetery: Mudgee General Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Mudgee, Mid-Western Regional Council, New South Wales, Australia
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19 Aug 2019 10:40 |
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Harry Garbett in the 1911 England Census Name: Harry Garbett Age in 1911: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation to Head: Resident Gender: Male Birth Place: Wick, Warwick, England [ Birmingham on image ] Civil Parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Rowton House, Lodging House For Men, 1 To 25 (Odd) Kings Cross Road, London W C Marital status: Widowed <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Occupation: BILL POSTER Registration district: St Pancras Registration District Number: 9 Sub-registration district: South St Pancras ED, institution, or vessel: 27-32 Piece: 710
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19 Aug 2019 10:40 |
Family on that Passenger list, in case related -
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Dec 1944 (>99%) Garbett Terence Thornton Keighley 9a 353
Births Sep 1946 (>99%) Garbett Pamela A Thornton Dartford 5b 816
---------------------------------- Marriage of parents Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)
Garbett John R Thornton Dartford 2a 2737 Thornton Audrey Garbett Dartford 2a 2737
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19 Aug 2019 10:39 |
Harry Garbutt in the 1901 England Census Name: Harry Garbutt [Harry Garbett] Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Male Birth Place: Birmingham Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: Piece: 2843 Folio: 33 Page Number: 1 Household schedule number: 5 Household Members: Name Age William Garbutt 35 Sarah A Garbutt 25 William Garbutt 6 Samuel Garbutt 4 Katie Garbutt 2 Harry Garbutt 17
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19 Aug 2019 10:38 |
Harry Edward Garbett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Harry Edward Garbett Registration Year: 1883 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Aston Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 369
Harry E Garbett in the 1891 England Census Name: Harry E Garbett Gender: Male Age: 7 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1884 Father: Samuel Garbett Mother: Caroline Garbett Birth Place: Aston, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Aston Residence Place: Bordesley, Aston, Warwickshire, England Sub Registration District: Duddeston ED, Institution or Vessel: 6 Neighbors: Piece: 2416 Folio: 108 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Garbett 50 Caroline Garbett 48 Walter E Garbett 28 William H Garbett 25 Rose A Garbett 14 Samuel Garbett 13 George Garbett 11 Harry E Garbett 7
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19 Aug 2019 10:29 |
Sybilla's mother Sybil following to Australia in 1953 - address the same as Sybil's in Gosling Way:
Mrs S Garbett in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: Mrs S Garbett Gender: Female Age: 54 Birth Date: abt 1899 Departure Date: 18 Mar 1953 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Sydney, Australia Ship Name: Oronsay Shipping Line: Orient Line Official Number: 184451 Master: Paul Sargent
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19 Aug 2019 10:26 |
Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
First name(s) S E Last name Garbett Title MISS Gender Female Age 19 Birth year 1932 Occupation FACTORY WKR Departure year 1951 Departure day 5 Departure month 9 Departure port Southampton Destination port Sydney Destination SYDNEY State New South Wales Country Australia Destination country Australia Ship name Asturias Ship master's first name B C Ship master's last name DODDS Shipping line ORIENT Ship destination port AUSTRALIA Ship destination country AUSTRALIA Number of passengers 1154 Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Her last UK address - 238 Gosling Way, Vassal road, Brixton, London SW9
On ticket No. 727
Other people associated with this record. All from last address in UK - 28 Beltwood Road, Belvedere, Kent All on ticket No. 726
Mr J R Garbett - 32 Carpenter Mrs A Garbett - 31 Wife Master T Garbett - 6 son Miss P A Garbett - 5 daughter
Country of future permanent residence - Australia
So either very coincidental people of same name on record OR she was a relative ? sister/cousin to JR. Ticket numbers concurrent, ? suggests a link?
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19 Aug 2019 10:25 |
NO - FORGET the Harrry E Garbett who married Violet Saunders.
The Harry with Sybil is a different man.
Harry E Garbett in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Harry E Garbett Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 26 Jul 1904 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 6 Residence Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Occupation: Polisher - Motor Aero & Electric - pls Schedule Number: 26 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: QBFY Registration district: 384/8 Inferred Spouse: Violet L Garbett Inferred Children: Doris G Garbett Household Members: Name Harry E Garbett Violet L Garbett Doris G Garbett
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19 Aug 2019 10:20 |
Yes, definitely her - here's another version:
Miss Syvil Ethel Garbett in the Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963 Name: Miss Syvil Ethel Garbett Birth Date: abt 1932 Departure Date: 5 Sep 1951 Departure Place: Southampton, United Kingdom Arrival Date: 30 Sep 1951 Arrival Place: Sydney, Australia Age on Arrival: 19 Vessel: Asturias
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19 Aug 2019 10:17 |
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Sybil Ethel Garbett in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 Name: Sybil Ethel Garbett Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1954 Subdistrict: Bondi State: New South Wales District: Phillip Country: Australia
Also another Sybil Garbett at the same address.
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Sybil Garbett in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Sybil Garbett Gender: Female Marital status: Married Birth Date: 29 May 1899 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 9 Residence Place: Carshalton, Surrey, England Occupation: Upd Schedule Number: 207 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: CMGD Registration district: 31-2. Inferred Spouse: Harry E Garbett Household Members: Name Harry E Garbett - 9 May 1883 Sybil Garbett (and one closed record) <<<<<<<<
Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%) GARBETT Harry E Saunders Birmingham N. 6d 904 Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%) SAUNDRS Violet L Garbett Birmingham N 6b 904
Perhaps he couldn't mary Sybil if already married ???
Harry Edward Garbett in the Sutton, Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1931-1970 Name: Harry Edward Garbett Year: 1938 Parliamentary Division: Carshalton, Surrey, England Reference Number: 047
[ with Sybilla Garbett ] Also in 1935 - 7.
Harry E Garbett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Harry E Garbett Death Age: 66 Birth Date: abt 1883 Registration Date: Jul 1949 [Aug 1949] [Sep 1949] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Surrey North eastern Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 5g Page: 382
So after his death I'm guessing Sybil and Sybilla went to Australia ??
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Miss S E Garbett in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: Miss S E Garbett Gender: Female Age: 19 Birth Date: abt 1932 Departure Date: 5 Sep 1951 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Sydney, Australia Ship Name: Asturias Shipping Line: Orient Line Master: B C Dodds
Travelling alone - there's a Garbett family also on that ship, but they seem to be separate from Sybilla. Sybil's address: 238 Gosling Way, Vassal Road, Brixton, London SW9. Occupation: Factory worker
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19 Aug 2019 09:45 |
Here's her birth. Not seeing a marriage for her parents or any siblings:
Births Dec 1931 Garbett Sybilla E Spenser Finsbury 1b 784
She appears on the 1954 Australian Electoral Register and then appears to be married by 1958.
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19 Aug 2019 09:12 |
Wow thank you all for your super help her nee name was Garbett I believe married Thomas Guthrie he died Australia 1976
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19 Aug 2019 01:51 |
Bit more info. on that Edinburgh death"
SYBILLA GUTHRIE, d.o.b: 28/11/1931: place of birth: Unknown, who resided at Guthrie Court Nursing Home, 10 Lasswade Road, Edinburgh, EH16 6RZ and who died at Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh, EH16 4SA on 03/02/2015. QLTR Ref: UH/9/19
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18 Aug 2019 18:01 |
Is Guthrie her maiden name or married name? Was she born in Australia? What were her parents' names?
Very long shot:
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Sybilla Ethel Guthrie in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 Name: Sybilla Ethel Guthrie Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1980 Subdistrict: Mudgee State: New South Wales District: Paterson Country: Australia
?? Just a very slight maybe - don't know your Sybil's age, and this record has no middle name:
Death:
GUTHRIE SYBILLA 83 ------- 2015 734/ 282 Edinburgh, Central
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Ian
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18 Aug 2019 13:37 |
Thank you for your kind help I will try and find more family details and get back. Regards Ian
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18 Aug 2019 13:27 |
do you have a rough birth year? Might place where and when she died. There won't be passenger records, but you might be able to check electoral rolls if it can be found where she lived/died.
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18 Aug 2019 13:22 |
Hi Rambling Not sure where she lived died the family believe she arrived in the UK in the 1980s from Australia.
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18 Aug 2019 13:10 |
No records for that time period, when and where did she die?
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Ian
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18 Aug 2019 13:02 |
Are there records kept for arrivals from Australia to the UK 1980s onwards Looking for Sybil Ethel Guthrie (diseased)
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