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Elizabeth,

That closed record could be Irene.

Rose

Silly question - have you registered on the adoption contact register?
https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records/the-adoption-contact-register

There’s a further link on the above to intermediary agencies. They’d be allowed to access your brother’s file, try to trace him under his new name and, if he agrees, put you in contact with each other. They will make a charge.

The closed record under Ivy Hampton on the 1939 reg is a female born 16th Oct 1936, not much help but could well be Betty

That’s very helpful thankyou so much

Matilda and Eric had one daiugter ann b born in 1944 .she did marry but sadly died in1982

Sooo it's possible they adopted Robert as they only had the one child of the marriage

It does seem the Bill and .Westwood family are very intertwined and looked after their own <3

It's possble they have just added the S to the name


The surname Bill is connected to the family and it does look like it could be Matilda who adopted your brother

With no other leads I would still be inclined to get the death cert for Eric Bill

Ah yes I see, so when they say in my file Robert was adopted by Betty’s sister Mrs Bills that can’t be can it?

It's a mistake on the census form because this is the marriage

Marriages Mar 1925
Bill Gladys L Westwood Dudley 6b 1085
Westwood Sidney L Bill Dudley 6b 1085

But that Sidney is Sidney B not Sidney L Westwood confusing? But only 4 houses from the address that Betty was adopted into very odd

I would be inclined to getting the death cert for Eric Bill to see who the informant was

They have some family Bill living with them

1939 register

Westwood Household (8 People)
111 Salop Street , Dudley C.B., Worcestershire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Gladys L Westwood 06 Oct 1902 Cycle Accessories Deal
Sidney B Westwood 12 Apr 1901 Motor Lorry Driver
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Ivy Hampton (Westwood) 02 Mar ? At School
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Alfred Thomas 29 Dec 1913 General Labourer
Samuel Bill 02 Apr ? Pensioner Old Age
Austine Bill 09 Jul 1860 Pensioner Old Age
Ref: RG101/5747A/010/30 Letter Code: QHAA
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They are living at nos 111 Salop street on tbe1939 register

It's the qtr the death was reg in
It would tie with the death being Feb

The first Sidney L Westwood sounds very close, when it says March 1955 is that just the quarter year the death was registered as I have a date of death 17th feb 1955?

At the time Betty was adopted by the Westwood’s the address was 103 Salop st Dudley

It may serve a better finding aid if Roberts birth certificate was got to get an address at that time which could be followed up on..

Births Sep 1921
Westwood Matilda Westwood Dudley 6b 1950

parents were both Westwood

Marriages Jun 1912
Westwood Annie Westwood Dudley 6c 25
Westwood Benjamin Westwood Dudley 6c 25

He remarried

LAWSON
Last name WESTWOOD
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1951
Registration month -

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LAWSON WESTWOOD married one of these people
Beryl J Dalloway
Spouse's last name Dalloway

Not posting all the info as she could be still alive

LAWSON
Last name WESTWOOD
Birth year 1927
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Bill
District Dudley
County Staffordshire
Country England
Volume 6B
Page 1534
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006



LAWSON
Last name WESTWOOD
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1945
Registration month -

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LAWSON WESTWOOD married one of these people
Ann Malpass
Spouse's last name Malpass
District Rowley Regis
District number -
County Staffordshire
Country England
Volume 6B
Volume as transcribed 6B
Page number 1828


LAWSON
Last name WESTWOOD
Gender Male
Birth day 9
Birth month 11
Birth year 1927
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1996
District Dudley
District number 0651A
Register number A36F
Entry number 260
Date of registration mm/yy 0296
County Staffordshire
Country England


Maybe it was the sister in law rather than sister although one would think they would say he was adopted by the brother rather than sister

Ivy who is an open record on then1939 reg

Births Jun 1930
Westwood Ivy Bill Dudley 6b 1599

She married a mr Hampton somwont be the mrs bill who adopted Robert