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Wow; that’s great!

Thank you. So much. Felt like I hit a brick wall and getting no where.

1939 register
Name: Jemima A Foden
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widow
Birth Date: 6 Jul 1866
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 154
Residence Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Charwoman
Schedule Number: 218
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QBDH
Registration district: 384-7
Household Members:
Name
Jemima A Foden

1901 census

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Name: William Foden
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Jemima Foden
Birth Place: Saltley, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
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Ecclesiastical parish: Saltley St Saviour
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:corporation labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Erdington
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2878
Folio: 148
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Foden 38
Jemima Foden 32
Gertrude Foden 11
Elizabeth Foden 9
Stella Foden 8
Frederick Foden 5
Kathalina Foden 2
Bertha Foden 7/12

Her birth showing mmn Barwick

FODEN, ELIZABETH BARWICK
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 424


Parents

Marriages Mar 1889
Barwick Jemima Eliza Aston 6d 293
Foden William Aston 6d 293

The marraige date was posted
It's Dec qtr 1911

I do not have the any dates of the marriage unfortunately.

yes, John Henry from 1912 is my grandad and I have very limited information on his side of the family.

And to add to the confuser there are many John Henry's.

That is wonderful thank, and there is not much information to on with Foden. Thats give me a nudge in the right direction.

Have you looked in search all member trees?

That's the place to start..................

John Henry Painter
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: 18 Sep 1912
Registration Date: Jan 1991
Registration district: Kidderminster
Inferred County: Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 29
Page: 522

And Marie


Name: Marie Douglass J Painter
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1914
Registration Date: Nov 1996
Registration district: Kidderminster
Inferred County: Hereford and Worcester
Register Number: 30D
District and Subdistrict: 5171

Birth wrong but could be Elizabeth
Elizabeth Painter
Death Age: 87
Birth Date: 30 Mar 1893
Registration Date: Sep 1980
Registration district: Sandwell
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 33
Page: 0891

Soooo on the 1939 register he has become John Henry

This looks like his death also as John H

Deaths Mar 1969
PAINTER JOHN H 82 KIDDERMINSTER 9d. 169

Both Josephine and Jaqueline listed in the household are mmn smith on the birth records !

There is a big gap between the youngest painter/foden children so maybe they were taken in by the family but are connected through family

Only one of the biith certs would tell by the parents names

There are actually three births

Births Mar 1934
Painter Josephine P Smith Kidderminster 6c 130

Births Jun 1935
Painter Joyce E Smith Kidderminster 6c 171

Births Mar 1937
Painter Jacqueline J Smith Kidderminster 6c 174


The closed record on the 1939 reg is probably Joyce

Edit looking at the actual census page Marie Painter is married

So is John Henry

Sooo
This looks to be the marraige

Marriages Sep 1933
Painter John H Smith Potterspury 3b 76
Smith Marie D J Painter Pottersbury 3b 76

Possible

Births Sep 1924
Painter George A Foden Birmingham N 6d 970



This look like them


Painter Household (9 People)
The Nook , Kidderminster R.D., Worcestershire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
John Henry Painter 18 Sep 1912 Bricklayer R A F We Pat
Henry Painter 02 Sep 1886 General Labourer Ra F
Elizabeth Painter 16 Apr 1893 Unpaid Domestic Duties
George Arthur Painter 03 Aug 1924 Improver To Bricklayer
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Marie Painter 31 Dec 1914 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Josephine (Patricia) Rowberry (Painter) 02 Feb 1934 Under School Age
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Jacquline (J) Bowen (Painter) 09 Jan 1937 Under School Age
Ref: RG101/5813B/015/40 Letter Code:
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Could one of the sons be John Henry

Births Sep 1911
Painter Gertrude M Foden Aston 6d 739

Births Dec 1912
Painter John H Foden Aston 6d 660

Births Mar 1914
Painter Gladys C Foden Aston 6d 1026

Births Sep 1914
Painter Frederick W Foden Aston 6d 998

Births Jun 1917
Painter Winnie Foden Aston 6d 839

Births Dec 1918
Painter Percy F Foden Aston 6d 699

Births Jun 1922
Painter Josephine P Foden Aston 6d 877

Births Jun 1924
Painter Hazel Foden. Aston 6d 784

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Do you have a time and a place for the marriage?

Rose

Could it be HENRY Painter married to Elizabeth Foden?


Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)

Barr William G Aston 6d 733
Foden Elizabeth Aston 6d 733
Painter Henry Aston 6d 733
WRIGHT Lilian M Aston 6d 733

Does anyone have a John Henry Painter married to a Elizabeth Foden in their tree?