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If you buy credits on 192.com, you'll be able to see the full address. I don't have credits, I'm afraid.

The quickest way to find the particular entry on 192.com is not to go via the site, but to Google " david williams, merthyr, 192.com".

Click on the first search result, and from there you can register and buy credits.

BUT PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THIS MAY BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COUPLE!

There is also a David Williams in Merthyr in the BT online phonebook
www.thephonebook.bt.com
giving full address and phone number.
First half of postcode is CF47, same as for the 192.com entry.

BUT SAME WARNING!

Is there any way of contacting them?

Kimberleigh -

Derek James Williams, whose 1972 death Malyon posted at the top of this page, looks like being the adopted son (Derek) of Margaret Woodward who remarried David J Williams.

The couple living in Merthyr Tydfil in 2017 MIGHT be Margaret and her husband David.

To be sure about the death, you'd have to send for a copy of the death cert.

Which family malyon?

could be them the son died in wales 1972

192.com shows a David J Williams with a Margaret Williams at an address in Merthyr Tydfil in 2017 ER.

I've no idea if that's the right couple or not - very common names.

her married name was park also has her maiden name woodward married in dudley 1971

I don't understand all of that

this is the marriage Marriages Sep 1971

PARK Margaret WILLIAMS Dudley 9b 709 Scan available - click to view
WILLIAMS David J E PARK Dudley 9b 709 Scan available - click to view
WILLIAMS David J H WOODWARD Dudley 9b 709 Scan available - click to view
WOODWARD Margaret WILIAMS Dudley 9b 709

Yes! that sounds just right

if you say margaret remarried to williams and derick born 1967 died in 1972 then this could be he's death

Derek James Williams
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Collections from
Great Britain, Wales
Country
Wales
County
Merionethshire
Year
1972
Birth Year
1967
Event Quarter
3
District
Merioneth South

You also say, " we were told that the other child (Derek) had passed away."

It sounds as if there was at least some contact between the families.
Who told you about Derek?
And do you know where or when he died?

It also sounds as if he kept the name Derek, just as Vincent remained Vincent.
Do you know if the Williamses adopted both boys?

I don't see his death as Derek Williams (at least not in England/Wales) up to 2007, unless he'd been given extra forenames at adoption.

Do you (or your mother) know anything more about Vincent's adoptive parents - like christian names for eg so this could be checked? It's just strange that you have a surname - this is not divulged through the adoption process, the birth parents are not informed of the identity of of the adoptive parents. Could it be that it was someone known to your grandfather and/or Margaret?

I've sent you a PM regarding your last post. If you look at the top you should have a message

not yet but she is going to. If I upgrade to platinum membership on here will that help? or is there a better site than this?

Did Michael ever mention whether Margaret re-married and to whom? I can't see a death for Derek under the name of Park, maybe that was because he had a name change.

Sorry, this isn't really helping in locating Vincent though, which is what you are trying to do but I'm not coming up with anything on Vincent under either of the names you've given.

has you mother registered with the adoption contact register as posted earlier by DetEcTive?

unfortunately my grandfather passed over 10 years ago but we were told that the other child (Derek) had passed away
Michael lees park married Margaret they then later divorced and he married Pamela Ann millinson

Can't see a marriage for him in Worcestershire

Or a possible on the electoral rolls

Ahh all qtrs are 99% except Dec which is only 12% !!!!


Would be the one you want lol

He does show on ancestry Dec qtr . They have transcribed it with the small s too

The small s against the page nos does indicate adopted . It means that the GRO wil, only issue a shortened copy of the birth cert that doesn't show mother or parents details

I see they share the same father, is he still around to ask about Derek or for any other information? It could be they had already split up and he was a child from another relationship, but registered in the mothers name as it was at the time?

Just wondering if Margaret also remarried and the child's registration was amended to her new surname, or he was adopted by her new husband.