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Arlene

Arlene Report 6 Apr 2018 23:14

We are trying to find my husband's cousins who live or lived in Harrogate. These would be the grandchildren of my grandfather's sister Isabel who was born in Roecliffe and lived on Brickyard Farm. Should anyone have information to help me, please reply. Thank you from Canada.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Apr 2018 23:24

There are 4 people with the surname Styan on electoral registers in Harrogate up to 2014 (the latest year on Findmypast website).

Do you have any first names?

There is only one Ramsdale in Harrogate in Findmypast and that was in the 2002 electoral register.

Kath. x

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 6 Apr 2018 23:32

Hi Arlene, unfortunately, even people who knew these people (none of whom are likely to ever see this message!) could tell who they are without some names!

Isabel Who? Do you know whom she married? Do you have an idea of dates -- when she was born, for starters?

Hm, are Ramsdale and Styan names, and they were in Harrogate area?

Ah yes, they are surnames, but there is no Ramsdale + Styan marriage in records, for instance:

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Although no one who does have information is at all likely to reply, other members here can help with tracing family, if we have more info about them.

Might this possibly be Isabel's birth?

Births Jun 1894
Ramsdale Isabel Gt. Ouseburn 9a 78

Aha, yes, you have in your tree

Isabel Ramsdale 1894 Roecliffe, Yorkshire

Meanwhile, you can search trees here (under Search in the upper right) to see whether any other members have your people in their trees, and if so, send them a message by clicking the "More Info" button.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 6 Apr 2018 23:37

Crossed with Kath who figured out the names before I did. :-)

For info, this is the family in 1911

Robert Ramsdale 63
Elizabeth Ramsdale 58
Martha Ramsdale 18
Isabel Ramsdale 16
Leslie Charles 19


Might this be her marriage?

Marriages Jun 1923
Ramsdale Isabel Reed Thirsk 9d 859
Reed John P Ramsdale Thirsk 9d 859


Do you know the names of any of Isabel's children?

There were two births to that marriage, girl 1923 and boy 1929.

Ah ... and the daughter married a Styan.

Two children ... whom you have in your tree here.

(It is actually against site privacy rules to put living people in one's tree without their consent.)


JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 6 Apr 2018 23:47

You might be able to reach one of the sons via here (just googling his name finds this info, since his name is uncommon):

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/m8FW_9YbblorflewXGYI_8TbnNY/appointments

or perhaps more directly

https://tinyurl.com/y9rl34s7

That info matches with the electoral roll and telephone listing.


... I will let Arlene know to check her thread ...

Arlene

Arlene Report 7 Apr 2018 02:00

Joonie,
Thanks for such a quick reply. You and Kathleen are absolutely amazing! I am new to this whole process. Hopefully it is okay to give you the following names since I don't know if some are still living.
Isabel Ramsdale 1894-1963 born in Roecliff / Great Ouseburn. Deceased in Boroughbridge. Isabel married Jack Reed 1893-1966, deceased in Boroughbridge. They had a son, Stapleton born 1925. Living still?? He married Pip Danford born 1926. Still living??? They had 2 sons Philip and Stephen who were born late 40s I think.
Isabel and Jack's daughter was Margaret born 1927. Still living??? She married Leslie Styan 1926-1966. The had 2 sons Michael and Eric who were born early 50s I think.
Margaret and family apparently lived in Harrogate.
Stapleton and family supposedly lived in Knarsborough at some time.
I would love to find them. According to a now deceased aunt, Pip supposedly has the Ramsdale family Bible which is full of family info.
Thank you again for all your help and suggestions.
Regards, Arlene

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 09:05

There are two Reed/Ramsdale births on freebmd

One is for a female in 1923. The second is for John S in 1929

John S married Edna Danford in 1952

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 09:08

Leslie Styan married Margaret A Reed 1947 and died in 1969

Margaret Annie Styan died in 2006

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 09:32

First name(s) EDNA
Last name REED
Gender Female
Birth day 3
Birth month 11
Birth year 1929
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 2005
District North Yorkshire
District number 6501A
Register number A9
Entry number 071
Date of registration mm/yy 0505
County Yorkshire
Country England

John Reed is on the ER to 2007

The house where they lived was sold in Febuary 2010

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 10:24

https://www.thephonebook.bt.com/Person/PersonSearch/

Input 'Styan'and 'Harrogate'

The second entry is almost certainly your relative

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 7 Apr 2018 13:27

Ancestry has a death for John Stapleton Reed in 2007.

Rose

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 14:58

Danford Household (8 People)
26 Windsor Lane , Knaresborough U.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England


Edna Reed (Danford) 03 Nov 1929 Female At School Single 50 4
John Danford 05 Jan 1901 Male Storekeeper H?ate Gas Company Married 50 1
Marian A Moorhouse (Danford) 14 Sep 1906 Female Household Duties Married 50 2
Vera Waite (Danford) 22 Jun 1928 Female At School Single 50 3
John Hanford 10 Sep 1939 Male Under School Age Single 50 5
Florence A Hayes 24 Jun 1871 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 50 6
Beatrice I Torres 05 Dec 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 50 7
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 15:05

A large family

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Brickyard Farm, Roecliffe, Great Ouseburn, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Robert Ramsdale Head Married Male 52 1849 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England Farmer Transcription
Elizabeth Ramsdale Wife Married Female 48 1853 Ainderby Steeple, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Albert Ramsdale Son Single Male 24 1877 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England Farmers Son Transcription
Harry Ramsdale Son Single Male 21 1880 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England Farmers Son Transcription
Ellen Ramsdale Daughter Single Female 20 1881 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England Farmers Daur Transcription
Laura Ramsdale Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Roecliffe, Yorkshire, England Dressmaker Transcription
Stapleton Ramsdale Son Single Male 15 1886 Roecliffe, Yorkshire, England Farmers Son Transcription
John Robert Ramsdale Son Single Male 14 1887 Roecliffe, Yorkshire, England Farmers Son Transcription
Elizabeth Ann Ramsdale Daughter Single Female 12 1889 Roecliffe, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Alice Ramsdale Daughter Single Female 10 1891 Roecliffe, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Martha Ramsdale Daughter Single Female 8 1893 Roecliffe, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Isabel Ramsdale Daughter Single Female 6 1895 Roecliffe, Yorkshire, England - Transcription

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 15:06

Name: Isabel Reed
Death Age: 70
Birth Date: abt 1895
Registration Date: Mar 1965
Registration district: Claro
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 85

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 15:10

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Brickyards, Roecliffe, Great Ouseburn, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Robert Ramsdale Head Of Family Married Male 42 1849 Yorkshire, England Farmer And Milk Hawker Transcription
Elizabeth Ramsdale Wife Married Female 38 1853 Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Albert Ramsdale Son - Male 14 1877 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England Farmers Son Transcription
William Ramsdale Son - Male 13 1878 Yorkshire, England Farmers Son Transcription
Harry Ramsdale Son - Male 11 1880 Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
Ellen Ramsdale Daughter - Female 10 1881 Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
Laura Ramsdale Daughter - Female 8 1883 Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
Stapleton Ramsdale Son - Male 6 1885 Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
John Robert Ramsdale Son - Male 4 1887 Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Elizabeth Ann Ramsdale Daughter - Female 2 1889 Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Alice Ramsdale Daughter - Female 0 1891 Roecliffe, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
John Slatpleton Father In Law - Male 70 1821 Yorkshire, England Retired Farm Labourer Living On Her Own Means

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 15:22

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Flagstaff Cottage, Newby-Wiske, Thirsk, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England

John Stapleton Head Married Male 59 1822 Hunton, Yorkshire, England Ag Lab Transcription
Ann Stapleton Wife Married Female 63 1818 Northallerton, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Elizabeth Ramsdale Daughter Married Female 28 1853 Morton on Swale, Yorkshire, England Farmers Wife Transcription
Fred Ramsdale Grand Son Single Male 6 1875 Roxby, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
Albert Ramsdale Grand Son Single Male 4 1877 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription
William Ramsdale Grand Son Single Male 3 1878 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Harry Ramsdale Grand Son Single Male 1 1880 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England - Transcription
Ellen Ramsdale Grand Daughter Single Female 0 1881 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 15:24

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Roecliffe Boroughbridge, Roecliffe, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Robert Ramsdale Head Married Male 63 1848 Newby Wisk Yorks Farmer Transcription
Elizabeth Ramsdale Wife Married Female 58 1853 Marton in Swale Yorks - Transcription
Martha Ramsdale Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Roecliffe Yorks Farmers Daughter Dairy Work Transcription
Isabel Ramsdale Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Roecliffe Yorks Farmers Daughter Dairy Work Transcription
Leslie Charles - Single Male 19 1892 Headingley Yorks Learning Farming Transcription

12 children born - ALL living

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 15:37

Name: Laura Spearman
Death Age: 45
Birth Date: abt 1884
Registration Date: Mar 1929
Registration district: Great Ouseburn
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 130

1911 Irish Census
Residents of a house 4 in Wine Street (Sligo West Urban, Sligo)
Spearman Thomas 26 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Tipperary Grocer Read and write - Married - 4 2 2
Spearman Laura 28 Female Wife Church of England England - Read and write - Married - 4 2 2
Spearman Thomas E Bisset 3 Male Son Church of England England - - - - - - - -
Spearman Robt Andrew 2 Male Son Church of England England - - - - - -



SPEARMAN, ROBERT ANDREW RAMSDALE Order
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in WYCOMBE Volume 03A Page 984


Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Spearman Thomas Edward B Stockton 10a 97



Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
RAMSDALE Laura Stockton 10a 110
SPEARMAN Thomas Stockton 10a 110

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 15:41


1939
Spearman Household (3 People)
7 Rakehill Road , Tadcaster R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Thomas E Spearman 08 Feb 1908 Male Joiner Bench & Fixing Hand Married 184 1
Annie Spearman 30 Oct 1914 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 184 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

1939
Spearman Household (6 People)
4 Arrows Terrace , Nidderdale R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England


Robert A Spearman 30 Mar 1906 Male Foreman Bricklayer Married 77 1
Dora E Spearman 07 Sep 1907 Female Household Duties Married 77 2
Colin A Spearman 23 Jul 1930 Male At School Single 77 3
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Peter Spearman 19 Dec 1934 Male At School Single 77 6

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Apr 2018 16:15

Name: Albert Ramsdale
Marriage Age: 27
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1877
Marriage Date: 23 Jun 1904
Marriage Place: Harrogate, Christ Church, Yorkshire, England
Parish: Harrogate, Christ Church
Father: Robert Ramsdale
Spouse: Ada Sharpe
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Row Boroughbridge, Boroughbridge, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Albert Ramsdale Head Married Male 34 1877 Yorks Newly Whisks Farm Labourer Transcription
Ada Ramsdale Wife Married Female 33 1878 Yorks Middlesbro - Transcription
John S Ramsdale Son - Male 6 1905 Yorks Starbeck - Transcription
Mary Ramsdale Daughter - Female 4 1907 Durham Stockton on Tees - Transcription
Doris Ramsdale Daughter - Female 1 1910 Yorks Borobridge - Transcription


Name: Albert Ramsdale
Death Date: 29 Nov 1937
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Probate Date: 17 Mar 1938
Registry: London, England

1939

Ramsdale Household (2 People)
St James' Square , Nidderdale R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England


Ada Ramsdale 01 Apr 1878 Female Butcher - Shopkeeper Widowed 213 1
Mary E Sharp 04 Dec 1868 Female Retired Single 213 2

Name: Ada Ramsdale
Death Date: 7 Aug 1958
Death Place: Yorkshire, York, England
Probate Date: 1 Dec 1958
Registry: London, England


Name: John Stapleton Ramsdale
Death Age: 86
Birth Date: 22 Jan 1905
Registration Date: Dec 1991
Registration district: Claro
Inferred County: North Yorkshire
Volume: 2
Page: 2191

Name: John Stapleton Ramsdale
Death Date: 23 Dec 1991
Death Place: Ripon N York
Probate Date: 11 Feb 1992
Registry: Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Address: 19 Lark Hill Close, Ripon
Effects: Not exceeding £125000.00
No info about executor