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would any body be able to help me with the above
dominic born 1881 states Italy then moved to ontraio Canada with mary Sweeney
they had one child together the child sadly died aged 7

dominic died I think in his forties
mary then went on to meet a man called lewis crocker
they had a son called Charles crocker and he has 2 children called donna and ? still living in Canada
on dominic grave it states Thomas martin not dominic

many thanks

when did he marry Mary Sweeney

he is on the 1911 census with some Sweeney children
Name: Dominic Martin
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Thed, Italy (resident)
Civil Parish: Wakefield
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County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: St Austins, Akefield
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Organ Grinder
Registration district: Wakefield
Registration District Number: 504
Sub-registration district: Wakefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 27392
Household Members:
Name Age
Dominic Martin 28 occ organ grinder
Kate Martin 27
Louis Martin 8
Atilla Martin 7
Edward Martin 3
Maria Martin 1
John Sweney 14 occ helps with organ
Mary Sweney 17 occ box maker
Michael Sweney 22
Joshua Senior 44
married 7 years 4 children born
the sweeney s are brother and sister in law


she was Catherine not Mary

Marriages Jun 1902
Martin Dominick Dewsbury 9b 1174
Sweeney Catherine Dewsbury 9b 1174

1921 canada
Name Dominic Martin
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Age 32
Birth Year abt 1889
Birth Place Italy
Relation to Head of House Head
Spouse's Name Mary Martin
Father Birth Place Italy
Mother Birth Place Italy
Year of Immigration 1920
Racial or Tribal Origin Italian
Province or Territory Ontario
District Toronto Centre
District Number 130
Sub-District Ward 4
Sub-District Number 54
City, Town or Village Toronto Ward 4
Street or Township 136 St Patrick
Municipality Ward 4
Occupation Wood Comest
Income 300
Household Members
Name Age
Dominic Martin 32
Mary Martin 27
Lena Martin 1/12

1911
Name Dominic Martin
Age in 1911 28
Estimated Birth Year abt 1883
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Birth Place Thed, Italy (resident)
Civil parish Wakefield
Search Photos Wakefield, Yorkshire-West Riding, England
County/Island Yorkshire-West Riding
Country England
Street Address St Austins, Akefield
Marital Status Married
Occupation Organ Grinder
Registration district Wakefield
Registration District Number 504
Sub-registration district Wakefield
ED, institution, or vessel 16
Piece 27392
Household Members
Name Age
Dominic Martin 28
Kate Martin 27
Louis Martin 8
Atilla Martin 7
Edward Martin 3
Maria Martin 1
John Sweney 14
Mary Sweney 17
Michael Sweney 22
Joshua Senior 44

Dominic Martini

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Name: Dominic Martini
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Birth Date: abt 1884
Birth Country: Italy
Arrival Date: Feb 1917
Port of Arrival: Buffalo, New York, USA
Residence Country: Canada
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 15

Charles Lewis Johan Crocker
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1935
Name:
Charles Lewis Johan Crocker
Gender:
Male
Age:
45
Birth Year:
abt 1889
Birth Place:
England
Residence:
263 Weston Rd. Toronto
Marriage Date:
17 Nov 1934
Marriage Place:
Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Father:
Charles Lewis Johan Crocker
Mother:
Polly Topping
Spouse:
Mary Martin

He's a widower, she's a widow. Original gives her parents' names as Patrick Sweeney & Elizabeth Connor.

from a tree on ancestry
dominic martin to this day remains amystery i will tell it as i no it

he married xxxxxxxxxxxxx kate sweeney and they went on to have several children

then he had an affair with kates sister mary sweeney who then had a child and the child was later adopted in leeds west yorkshire,

after the child was born mary boarded a ship in liverpool to quebc

several months later dominic martin boarded the same ship claiming to have a cousion called mary sweeney waiting for him in quebec, these 2 as far as we know went on to have more children . Dont know if they stayed in canada moved else where or moved back to uk or even when they died

also it states that he was a resident in thuscany italy and we think his father was called pasquale

1910 canada
Name: Dominick Martin
[Dominic Martin]
Age in 1910: 27
Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1910: Creekside, Indiana, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1906
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Pumper
Industry: Coal Washer
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Out of Work: Y
Number of weeks out of work: 0
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Household Members:
Name Age
Dominick Martin 27
Lorenzo Martin 51
Tony Maloli 30
Joe Maloli 33

1920 --- maybe a different person

in the 1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Dominic Martin
[Domnic Martin]
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: Herrin, Williamson, Illinois USA
Street: N 12th Street
House Number: 508
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1900
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Katie Martin
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Native Tongue: Italian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Miner
Industry: Coal Mine
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Free
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Dominic Martin 39
Katie Martin 35
Joe Martin 9
John Martin 7
Mike Martin 6
Angello Martin 4

Name: Lena Martin
Gender: Female
Age: 7
Birth Date: abt 1922
Birth Place: Toronto, Ontario
Death Date: 5 Jan 1929
Death Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Cause of Death: Pericarditis With Effusion

mother mary sweeney
father thomas martin
address 45 ennerdale road

Name: Lena Martin
Age: 7
Birth Year: 1922
Birth Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Death Date: 5 Jan 1929
Death Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Burial Date: 8 Jan 1929
Burial Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Cemetery Section: Childs Single Grave 22 873
Cemetery: Prospect Cemetery
Ground Property Owner: Thomas Martin
Relative Name: Thomas Martin
Relative Residence Place: 45 Ennerdale Rd

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her address 45 ennerdale road, both widows
Name Mary Martin
Gender Female
Age 41
Birth Year abt 1893
Birth Place England
Residence 45 Ennerdale Ave. Toronto
Marriage Date 17 Nov 1934
Marriage Place Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Father Patrick Sweeney
Mother Elizabeth Connor
Spouse Charles Lewis Johan Crocker

Thomas Martin

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Name: Thomas Martin
Gender: Male
Age: 52
Birth Date: abt 1882
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 25 May 1934
Death Place: York, Ontario, Canada
Father: Martin

45 ennerdale road

parents both born England

Name: Thomas Martin
Age: 52
Birth Year: 1882
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 25 May 1934
Death Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Burial Date: 28 May 1934
Burial Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Cemetery Section: Adult Single Grave 23 10636
Cemetery: Prospect Cemetery
Ground Property Owner: Mary Martin
Relative Name: M Martin
Relative Residence Place: 45 Ennerdale Road

Well done, Maddie! Curious thought that his name changed from Dominic to Thomas between 1921 and 1929. Also the fact that his birthplace changed to England.

very sorry for late reply, my father is ill and its been a bit hard for me.
mary dad was called patrtick Sweeney thank you I do have bits but not a lot.
I also had a picture of a grave stone with Thomas on.
the story goes that mary used to go visit the grave and next but one to it was the mrs crockers grave and her husband used to go visit there
this apparently is how they met.
I have never been convinced that dominic changed his name to Thomas
can any body tell me how do I go about finding the the grave or information on the late dominic martin please
may I thank you all for your lovely work

hi donna
haven't been able to find any death or burial for dominic, only those records posted above

maddie

I believe that Dominic and Thomas are one and the same. The address is the same on Thomas' death record as it is for Mary's remarriage where she gives her father's name as Patrick Sweeney.

Donna ...This is one of your previous posts relating to Dominic...may help for those searching for more info.

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/martin/thread/1234730?page=0
and
Original Thread 2010

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1203970

For info, Charles Crocker's wife also died in 1934

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKDK-MR4

Name Mary Ann Crocker
Event Type Death
Event Date 29 May 1934
Event Place Toronto, , Ontario
Gender F
Age 45
Birth Year (Estimated) 1889
Father's Name George Bristow
Mother's Name Annie Bristow
Spouse's Name Charles Crocker

marriage was 1910 in Uxbridge, in England

The death cert at that link shows her buried in Prospect Cemetery, so the story of how they met seems plausible.

(Findagrave does not show any of these names although Prospect Cemetery is supposedly over 90% photographed.)

I had left this tab open and just saw it again when my Firefox rebooted - just wanted to note, about Thomas/Dominic's name.

The Dominics I know are all called 'Dom'.

I imagine that became 'Tom', either because that is what people heard or because he decided life was easier to be a Tom than a Dom.

So then he became 'Thomas' ... by what's known as 'back formation' :-)

Dominic to Thomas seems odd ... but Dom to Tom is easy.

thanks just got back on this. one question if anybody could help.
above people have put that dominic was born in England but he states on his marriage certificate he was born in Italy and his father was called pasquale martin
do you think that he lied about this.
this man was destined for white lies to begin with I think he wanted to be someone who he wasn't or was always running away from things who knows

I would think the lie was that he was born in England. He probably did not want to suffer the discrimination against Italians.

He was likely born Dominico/Domenico Martini.

familysearch shows three records for that name with father Pasquale: one birth record 1887 in Italy, one about that age (but with different mother) who died in Chicago, and one borh 1881 and living in New York. I suspect it was not an uncommon name in Italy.

It also occurred to me that with Mary's husband and Charles's wife dying in 1934, it's possible they too don't actually have headstones. It was the Depression, and people may not have been able to afford them. Have you considered just writing to the cemetery for info?

http://www.mountpleasantgroup.com/Locations/Cemeteries/Prospect.aspx

edit - Actually, the death records posted above for Lena and Tom show the grave number so it's unlikely there's anything else the cemetery could report, except whether there are grave markers.

Just for info ... looking at your old thread, I'm not sure whether you ever got the children of the Dominic + Catherine marriage completely sorted.

MARTIN, LEWIS - SWEENEY
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 64
MARTIN, ALLILIO - SWEENEY (seems like it should be Attilio?)
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 59
MARTIN, EDWARD - SWEENEY
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 64
MARTIN, MARIA - SWEENEY
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 49
MARTIN, CORLEANA - SWEENEY
GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 58


Allilio/Attilio, Maria, Corleana -- I don't really think there's any question about whether he was Italian. :-)

I also see, having had no recollection of the previous threads at all until I saw the link in this one and looked just now, that I referred to the likely Dom/Tom switch back in one of your other threads in 2015 ...

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/martin/thread/1234730?page=3

and also that Lady Kira suggested that Peter (Peter Martin born in Italy) was an English alternative for Pasquale in the census where he shows as Dominic's father, and that is probable to a virtual certainty:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1203970

Please don't start another new thread about this ever! Keep the account you have now, and all you have to do is click "My Threads" to find it any time. Better still, click "Watch This" at the top.

thank you for the above I have found a gravestone not a headstone for Thomas martin I will try and upload a photo
I wont start a new thread at all I am pretty useless at this sometimes thank you for all your help.
I am quite a novice to all of this and dominic martin as always got me.
I have never been able to find anything on his past but maybe if I looked at the fact that he could of been born in England may bring a brighter light