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9 Nov 2017 18:05 |
Just in case it turns out to be relevant -
Mary Cuthbert in the Transvaal Province, South Africa, Estates Death Notice Index, 1855-1976 Name: Mary Cuthbert Death Year: 1959 Death Country: South Africa Title: Transvaal Estates Death Index (Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria) Source: National Archives, Pretoria Reference Number: 2629/59
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9 Nov 2017 17:46 |
If Mary Dodds was your grandfather's mother, then he wasn't the David born in 1905 in Anstruther.
In which case, he doesn't appear to have been born in the UK.
Also, there is no record of a Mary Dodds marrying a David Cuthbert in the UK.
As Beryl married him in South Africa, perhaps he was born there.
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ClaireCuthbert
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9 Nov 2017 04:25 |
I got the names from my grandfathers death certificate, Mary Dodds was definitely his mother but thats all it said, and that she died in Scotland. So i don't think Elizabeth Wilkie is the right person .
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8 Nov 2017 11:00 |
WILKIE MARGARET THOMSO 95 1932 402/ 42 Anstruther and Kilrenny
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8 Nov 2017 10:42 |
First name(s) Andrew Last name Wilkie Gender Male Birth year 1838 Birth place Scoonie,Fife,Scotland Baptism year - Baptism date - Baptism place - Father's first name(s) Alexander Father's last name Wilkie Mother's first name(s) Margaret Mother's last name Allan Place Scoonie County Fife Country Scotland Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Scotland, Great Britain Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
WILKIE ANDREW 73 1911 403/ 6 Anstruther Wester
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8 Nov 2017 10:40 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Kirk Inch, Scoonie (Fife), Fife, Scotland
Alexander Wilkie Male 40 1801 Fife, Scotland Margaret Wilkie Female 35 1806 Fife, Scotland Thomas Wilkie Male 7 1834 Fife, Scotland Andrew Wilkie Male 2 1839 Fife, Scotland Ann Wilkie Female 9 1832 Fife, Scotland
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8 Nov 2017 10:29 |
Claire, are you now wanting to work backwards from your grandparents?
To summarise
David Alexander Cuthbert b. 1905 son of David Alexander Cuthbert ( 1865 - 1921) and Elizabeth Wilkie (1863 - 1935). They married 1889.
David Alexander Cuthbert b. 1865 son of James Cuthbert and Mary Gibb (1832 - 1921)
Elizabeth Wilkie b. 1863 daughter of Andrew Wilkie and Margaret Thomson. (Both of whom are on census until at least 1901)
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7 Nov 2017 22:01 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription High Street, Anstruther Wester, Fife, Scotland
Andrew Wilkie Head Married Male 32 1839 Mason Leven, Fife, Scotland Margaret Thomson Wilkie Wife Married Female 28 1843 - Fife, Scotland Elizabeth W Wilkie Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar Fife, Scotland Margaret P Wilkie Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Fife, Scotland Thomas T Wilkie Son - Male 2 1869 - Fife, Scotland Andrew Allan Wilkie Son - Male 0 1871 - Fife, Scotland
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7 Nov 2017 21:51 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription High Street, Anstruther Wester, Fife, Scotland Andrew Wilkie Head Married Male 32 1839 Mason Leven, Fife, Scotland Margaret Thomson Wilkie Wife Married Female 28 1843 - Fife, Scotland Elizabeth W Wilkie Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar Fife, Scotland Margaret P Wilkie Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Fife, Scotland Thomas T Wilkie Son - Male 2 1869 - Fife, Scotland Andrew Allan Wilkie Son - Male 0 1871 - Fife, Scotland
From FindMyPast ( look at the mother's name, same as David and Elizabeth named a daughter)
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Wilkie Gender Female Birth year 1863 Birth place Anstruther Wester,Fife,Scotland Baptism year - Baptism date - Baptism place - Father's first name(s) Andrew Father's last name Wilkie Mother's first name(s) Margaret Mother's last name Thomson Place Anstruther Wester County Fife Country Scotland Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Scotland, Great Britain Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
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7 Nov 2017 21:42 |
I think that this may be your grandmother's death. The only way to be sure would be to buy credits and look at the registration. (Notice that on the reference, the entry number is 1. That means it was the first death registered in that district in 1935, so she may have died on 30 or 31 December 1934)
CUTHBERT ELIZABETH 71 1935 335/ 1 Blairgowrie
WILKIE ELIZABETH 71 1935 335/ 1 Blairgowrie
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7 Nov 2017 21:22 |
From FindMyPast showing his parents names
First name(s) David Alexander Last name Cuthbert Gender Male Birth year 1865 Birth place Anstruther Easter,Fife,Scotland Baptism year - Baptism date - Baptism place - Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Cuthbert Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name Gibb Place Anstruther Easter County Fife Country Scotland Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Scotland, Great Britain Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
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7 Nov 2017 21:19 |
Your grandfather's death
CUTHBERT DAVID ALEXANDER 56 1921 402/ 6 Anstruther Easter
His birth
DAVID ALEXANDER M 1865 402/ 33 Anstruther Easter
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7 Nov 2017 21:15 |
I posted your grandparents marriage on 25 October.
David Alexander Cuthbert married Elizabeth Wilkie in 1889 and they can be found together on the 1891, 1901 and 1911 census records.
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ArgyllGran
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7 Nov 2017 18:22 |
If David born 1905 in Anstruther is your grandfather, his mother seems to have been Elizabeth Wilkie.
Where did you find the name Mary Dodds, please?
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ClaireCuthbert
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7 Nov 2017 13:38 |
I managed to get some details of my Grandfather's parents names. His father was also David Alexander Cuthbert and his wife was Mary Dodds. I have looked on Ancestry.com and Scotlandspeople sites but I am unable to find any details of either of them or their marriage. Not sure if anyone else could find anything? They both died in Scotland so I am assuming they both were born there
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26 Oct 2017 22:47 |
I wouldn't necessarily rule that McPherson out ArgyllGran.
Alexander Gibson McPherson was one of a large family. Although he only appears to have had one son ( haven't found a death for him) and one daughter who died in 2010 in Blairgowrie. The owner of that farm may have one of his brothers who then passed it on to a son who then retired and sold it in 2003.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Glendoick Hamlet, Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
John McPherson Head Married Male 55 1846 Blacksmith Sub Post Master Errol, Perthshire, Scotland Jessie McPherson Wife Married Female 46 1855 Assistant Postmistress Kilconquhar, Fife, Scotland Alexander McPherson Son Single Male 17 1884 Apprentice Blacksmith Errol, Perthshire, Scotland James McPherson Son Single Male 16 1885 Telegraph Messenger Errol, Perthshire, Scotland John McPherson Son - Male 14 1887 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland Charles McPherson Son - Male 12 1889 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland George McPherson Son - Male 10 1891 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland William McPherson Son - Male 8 1893 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland Gibson McPherson Son - Male 8 1893 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland Margaret McPherson Daughter - Female 5 1896 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland Jessie McPherson Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
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26 Oct 2017 14:55 |
Re the travel record posted by Kay, for D A Cuthbert going to Cape Town -
the address is written as Millhall, Aberlot, Arbroath . Aberlot should be Arbirlot, and Millhall should probably be Millhill.
Currently, the occupier of the farm called Millhill at Arbirlot is a McPherson.
Perhaps related to Margaret McPherson (nee Cuthbert) ???
https://www.misterwhat.co.uk/scotland/angus/46_arbroath/farmers https://arbirlot.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/angus-mcpherson-17123457.html
EDIT: No, forget that. Millhill Farm changed hands in 2003, per Rightmove.
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26 Oct 2017 11:03 |
Marriage of your father's aunt?
Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name Image View CUTHBERT MARGARET THOMSO MCPHERSON ALEXANDER GIBSO 1916 402/ 3 Anstruther Easter
His aunt, Jamesina appears not to have married and died in Edinburgh in 1968.
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25 Oct 2017 21:01 |
D A Last name Cuthbert Title MR Gender Male Age 30 Birth year 1906 Occupation ENGINEER Departure year 1936 Departure day 18 Departure month 1 Departure port Southampton Destination port Cape Destination CAPE Country South Africa Destination country South Africa Ship name Kenilworth Castle Ship official number 118433 Ship master's first name E S Ship master's last name VINCENT Shipping line UNION-CASTLE MAIL S.S.CO.LTD City SOUTHAMPTON Ship destination port SOUTH AFRICA Ship destination country SOUTH AFRICA Ship registered tonnage 12975 Number of passengers 338 Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960 Category Travel & migration Subcategory Passenger lists Collections from Great Britain, England, Great Britain
List gives --last known address. Millhall Ahan.??? Arbroth and Angus.
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25 Oct 2017 19:46 |
Parents' marriage.
Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name Image View
CUTHBERT DAVID ALEXANDER WILKIE ELIZABETH 1889 403/ 1 Anstruther Wester
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