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12 Aug 2017 06:15 |
I am looking for information regarding a relative of mine, Stephen Pittman (born 1879) who travelled to the USA in 1918 aboard the ORONTES with his friend James Bradley. I think he lived initially in New York. He was the son of John Joseph Pittman and Marian Swordes and he had 5 siblings: Mary. Elizabeth, Gertrude, John and Esther. Esther married Patrick Greene, my great-great-grandfather. I would be grateful for any information about any of these relatives.
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12 Aug 2017 07:07 |
If the rest of the family stayed in the U.K. Have you looked on freebmd for possible marriages etc
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12 Aug 2017 07:21 |
Not seeing his birth or picking up the marriage of his parents
Where was he born please
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12 Aug 2017 07:27 |
Ok located them on the 1891 census
VIEW 1891 England Census
Name: Stephen Pittman Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Mother's name: Miriam Pittman Gender: Male Where born: Kingsdown Civil Parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: West Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2961 Folio: 74 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Miriam Pittman 44 Mary Pittman 19 Elizabeth Pittman 17 Ester Pittman 13 Stephen Pittman 11 John Pittman 5 Gertrude Pittman 3 Edward Kogan 21
All born Kingstown Ireland except for the younger two chiidren who were born Liverpool
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12 Aug 2017 07:33 |
PITTMAN, GERTRUDE SWORDS GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 403
PITTMAN, JOHN SWOARDS Order GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 399
So different spellings each time on surname . Guess maybe it was how it sounded to the registrar
Name: John Pittman Gender: Male Birth Date: 27 Nov 1885 Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father: John Pittman FHL Film Number: 2147930
Gertrude Pittman in the Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
Name: Gertrude Pittman Birth Date: 23 May 1887 Baptism Date: 19 Jun 1887 Parish: St Francis de Sales, Lancashire, England Father's name: Joannis Pittman Mother's name: Mariae Annae Swords
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12 Aug 2017 07:35 |
By 1901 only the two youngest still at home
Name: John Pittman Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Mother: Mary A Pittman Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill Search Photos: Search for 'Walton on the Hill' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3454 Folio: 139 Page Number: 45 Household schedule number: 264 Household Members: Name Age Mary A Pittman 47 John Pittman 15 occ office boy - merchants Gertrude Pittman 13
Not seeing them after 1901
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12 Aug 2017 07:41 |
Name: Elizabeth Pittman Gender: Female Birth Date: 9 Mar 1874 Birth Place: Kingstown No 1, Dub, Ireland Baptism Place: Kingstown No 1, Dub, Ireland Father: John Pittman Mother: Mary Anne Swords FHL Film Number: 255894
Name: Elizabeth Pitman Baptism Age: 0 Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 9 Mar 1874 Baptism Date: 11 Mar 1874 Baptism Place: Kingstown, Dublin, Ireland Residence Place: Patrick St Parish Variants: Dun Laoghaire, St. Michael's, Kingstown Diocese: Dublin Father: John Pitman Mother: Mary A Swords
Lizzie Pitman Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: John Pitman Mother: Marian Pitman Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Walton on Hill County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 38 Winslow St Education:
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View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: West Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3687 Folio: 56 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age John Pitman 37 occ seaman Marian Pitman 33 Mary F. Pitman 9 Lizzie Pitman 7 Ester Pitman 5 Stephen Pitman 1 Ann Jane 16 Oscar ? Mille 27 (not transcribed) (not transcribed)
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12 Aug 2017 07:44 |
John Pittman in the UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: John Pittman Estimated Age: 30 Birth Date: 1844 Birth Place: Bray, Dublin Issue Date: 10 Mar 1874 Issue Port: Dublin Certificate Number: 6244
John Pittman in the Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919
Name: John Pittman Age: 41 Birth Year: 1845 Birth Place: Bray Event Date: 1886 Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Ship Name: Servia Official Number: 84172 Reference Number: 387CRE/762
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12 Aug 2017 07:50 |
Esther Pitman Baptism Age: 0 Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 29 Mar 1877 Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1877 Baptism Place: Kingstown, Dublin, Ireland Residence Place: Patrick St Parish Variants: Dun Laoghaire, St. Michael's, Kingstown Diocese: Dublin Father: John Pitman Mother: Mary A Swords
Looks like there was another daughter
Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 No Image
Name: Sophia Pittman Gender: Female Birth Date: 14 Jun 1878 Birth Place: Rathdown, Dublin, Ireland Father: John Pittman Mother: Mary Anne Pittman Swords FHL Film Number: 256003
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12 Aug 2017 07:59 |
Both with sister Esther
Name: Gertrude Pittman Age in 1911: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation to Head: Sister Gender: Female Birth Place: Liverpool, Walton Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill Search Photos: Search for 'Walton on the Hill' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 72 Hale Rd Walton Marital Status: Single Occupation: Lady Book Keeper Registration district: West Derby Registration District Number: 455 Sub-registration district: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Piece: 22373 Household Members: Name Age Esther Green 33 Eileen Green 11 Mary Frances Green 8 Patrick Albert Green 6 Charles Green 1 John Joseph Pittman 24 occ clerk Gertrude Pittman 22
Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%) GREENE Patrick Joseph W. Derby 8b 1114 PITTMAN Esther Frances W. Derby
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12 Aug 2017 08:07 |
Looks like she went to New Zealand and intended to live there Miss G Pittman. Occ bookkeeper Gender: Female Age: 25 Birth Date: abt 1889 Departure Date: 10 Aug 1914 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Wellington, New Zealand Ship Name: Ruahine Search Ship Database: Search for the Ruahine in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: The New Zealand Shipping Company, Limited Official Number: 124582 Master: F Forbes
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12 Aug 2017 08:26 |
Possibly John
Marriages Sep 1922 PITTMAN John Shea Birkenhead 8a 1408 SHEA Winifred M Pittman
Looks like it's the right one as birth date matches baptism
1939 register Pittman Household (5 People) 24 Hale Road , Wallasey C.B., Cheshire, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION John Pittman 27 Nov 1885 chief clerk Harbour Docks and Harbour Board Winifred M Pittman 15 Feb 1890 Unpaid Domestic Duties Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Ref: RG101/3957F/012/29 Letter Code: LDAM © Findmypast Ltd Open a closed record Request a living person's record
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Births Sep 1923 PITTMAN Sheila M Shea Birkenhead 8a 923 Births Mar 1925 Pittman Joan M Shea Birkenhead 8a 878 Births Dec 1932 Pittman John A S Shea Birkenhead 8a 702
VIEW England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: John Pittman Death Date: 18 Jun 1953 Death Place: Cheshire, England Probate Date: 7 Aug 1953 Registry: Liverpool, England Of 48 Gloucester Close Wallasey died at Clatterbridge General Hospital,Bebingtin
Effects to Widow Winifred Mary
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12 Aug 2017 08:50 |
A tree on ancestry has this
Stephen Pittman
Birth: 11 Dec 1879 - Ireland Death: 10 Apr 1951 Spouse: Florence M Berrie
Name: Stephen Pittman Death Date: 18 Sep 1951 Cemetery: Saint John Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Middle Village, Queens County, New York, United States of America Has Bio?: N URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...
Baptism Name: Stephen Pittman Gender: Male Birth Date: 11 Dec 1879 Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland Father: John Pittman Mother: Mary Anne Swords Pittman FHL Film Number: 256045
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12 Aug 2017 08:55 |
WW2 registration card
Name: Stephen Pittman Gender: Male Race: White Residence Age: 63 Birth Date: 11 Dec 1879 Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland Residence Date: 1942 Residence Place: Queens, New York, USA Address 8532 66 Road, Forest Hills ,Queens NY
NOK Mrs Florence Pittman
Employer Empire Mutual ins co
1940 us census VIEW 1940 United States Federal Census View blank form Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Stephen Pittman Respondent: Yes Age: 62 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: Northern Ireland Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: New York, Queens, New York Map of Home in 1940: View Map Street: 66 Road House Number: 8532 Farm: No Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Queens, New York Residence in 1935: Same House Resident on farm in 1935: No Citizenship: Naturalized Sheet Number: 8A Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 13 Occupation: Adjuster in insurance House Owned or Rented: Owned Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 5600 Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: College, 4th year Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 36 Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work Weeks Worked in 1939: 52 Income: 3100 Income Other Sources: No Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Stephen Pittman 62 Florence Pittman 49 Edward Child 26 stepson
Must have married after 1930 Edward Child in the 1930 United States Federal Census VIEW 1930 United States Federal Census View blank form Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Edward Child Birth Year: abt 1914 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: New York Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Son Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York Map of Home: View Map Street address: Broadway Terrace Block: B House Number in Cities or Towns: 16 Family Number: 499 Attended School: Yes Able to Read and Write: Yes Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Household Members: Name Age Florence Child 38 Edward Child 16 Florence Child 13 Neighbors: View others on page
VIEW 1920 United States Federal Census View blank form Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Edward Childs Age: 5 Birth Year: abt 1915 Birthplace: New York Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 9, Kings, New York Street: 3rd Avenue Residence Date: 1920 Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's name: Albert Childs Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's name: Florence Childs Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Attended School: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Childs 38 Florence Childs 27 Albert Childs 7 Edward Childs 5 Florence Childs 4 Veronica Sullivan 23
Edward Berrie Child in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 No Image Text-only collection Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Edward Berrie Child [Edward Child] Gender: Male Race: White Birth Date: 3 Jan 1914 Birth Place: New York City, New York [New York Cit] Death Date: 23 Dec 2000 Father: Stephan J Pitman Mother: Florence M Berrie SSN: 056032949 Death Certificate Number: FIX FOR "01" DOD 03/01 Notes: Nov 1936: Name listed as EDWARD BERRIE CHILD; 19 Apr 2001: Name listed as EDWARD CHILD
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12 Aug 2017 08:58 |
He applied for citizenship and there's a picture of him
Name: Stephen Pittman Age: 38 Birth Date: 11 Dec 1879 Birth Place: Ireland Application Date: 20 Sep 1918 Application Place: New York, New York, USA Record Type: Application
He was a seaman at one time
Stephen Pittman Age: 23 Birth Year: abt 1881 Birth Place: Dublin Event Date: 14 Mar 1904 Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Ship Name: Cretic (ex. Hanoverian) Official Number: 115288 Reference Number: 387CRE/246
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12 Aug 2017 09:47 |
BERRIE, FLORENCE MAY WOOD GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 723 VIEW 1891 England Census
Name: Edward Berrie Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Berrie Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:hairdresser
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View image Registration district: Walsall Sub registration district: Walsall ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2255 Folio: 129 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Edward Berrie 32 Sarah Berrie 26 Margeret Berrie 6 Mary Ann Berrie 3 Florence Berrie 5/12 James Collins 28 Frederick Brandhet 24 John Thornkenson 58
Mary ann berrie was also born Scotland so the marriage could be on Scotlands People
Florence Mai (May) Berrie
Birth: Jan 1891 - Staffordshire, England Death: July 1976 (Jul 1976) - Forest Hills, Queens, New York, USA F: Edward
Name: Florence Pittman SSN: 074-20-2472 Last Residence: 11374 Flushing, Queens, New York, USA BORN: 28 Nov 1890 Died: Jul 1976 State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
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12 Aug 2017 22:42 |
Edward Berrie's wife Sarah - ie - Stephen Pittman's mother-in-law:
Sarah Ann Berrie in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Sarah Ann Berrie Arrival Date: 5 Feb 1923 Birth Date: abt 1866 Birth Location: England Birth Location Other: burntwood [Staffs.] Age: 57 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Columbia
NOK in UK: Husband - Edward Berrie, 18 Monteith Street, Glasgow. Going to her daughter Mrs Florence Child, 7910 3rd Ave., Brooklyn, NY. Intending to stay permanently. Fair complexion, grey eyes and hair.
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Sarah Ann Berrie in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name: Sarah Ann Berrie Birth Date: abt 1865 Age: 61 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 17 May 1926 Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland Ship Name: California
Address: 57 Dalmarnock Road, Glasgow. Country of future intended permanent residence: foreign countries [ie - not in England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland] Shipping line: Anchor Line Official Number: 147871
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