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Deborah have sent you a message with some more info for you to check out, just in case it proves to be relevant.

I wonder if Vera stayed with her sister Marjorie to have my father at their house in 1943. The address is where Vera went on to live with Herbert Sendall.

I found the tree that was spoken of and messaged the owner. I'm going to order the marriage cartificate for Henry and Miss Butler in 1949. If correct then it should list that he was divorced and the his father was a glass packer maybe.

It's a real eye opener for sure!

Deborah- putting everything in a tree will make things clearer and easier to research. I use Ancestry as you can create as many trees as you want.

So you could have a tree with the information that you know to be correct and another for the Alexander family that is most likely. That way you can research the Alexanders without messing up the information you know is accurate.

Try and make a list of questions for when you meet the family- and take notes. Even if there are things that don't tie up and you're not sure their information is accurate- write it down, it may be useful later. However, don't expect too much- some people aren't as interested in digging up the past as you are.
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Even though Henry is listed as Sandra's father, I think it's possible that Henry and Vera had split before her birth.

Nyx posted a possible marriage for Henry in 1949 to Miss Butler - if it is correct, then Henry is shown on the electoral register to be living with Miss Butler in Woolwich from 1947.

I'll get on the certificates asap. Hopefully it will all tie up.

I'm also meeting with my newly found Aunts and Uncles mid August. I hope Sandra will see me....she might have some answers.

I need to write down or start a tentative tree to save the records too and piece it all together in my mind, then see if the certificates match everything up. I might need some reminders. You have all been amazing!

I'm pretty sure I need to buy everyone dinner in a nice restaurant. I will check out the trees on here over the next few days and start to get my head clear.

From GRO:

WALKER, CHARLES ALBERT -
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 609

So mother's maiden name probably Walker

Deborah if you do find out that the Herbert who married King is Henry's brother, it's possible Herbert's daughter has a tree on here

I will send you some details

As far as I can tell both Herbert G junior and spouse Ivy died in Sussex 2006 and 2002 respectively

Agree with Austin, first buy some certs from the GRO

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp

OK- so if that death is correct it might be better to wait until 2019 to order the record- 25 years after the death you get the full shbang.

Think there's a lot of research to be done on the family first!

There is a marriage ( on freebmd) of a Henry F in 1949 Woolwich , can't say whether it is the right man though, but it does look possibly as if the spouse was living in roughly the same area on erolls to 2014 as the death in 1998?

from https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records

"3. Apply for the records of someone who's deceased

You can apply for a copy of someone else’s service records if any of the following apply:

you’re their immediate next of kin, for example their spouse or parent
you’ve got consent from their immediate next of kin
you have a general research interest - you’ll only have access to limited information, unless they died more than 25 years ago
You need to know the person’s full name, date of birth and service number."

I had the same thoughts re that death Nyx.

I'm not up on the obtaining of WWII records- if Deborah has his service number and birth or death certificate could she then order his military record?

I would also buy the marriage cert for Herbert to Mary if you can, for his age, and father's name?

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Alexander Herbert Walker Holborn 1b 1548
Walker Mary Alexander Holborn 1b 1548

IF it is the same Henry sadly it is possibe he died in 1994
but this is only guess work until some certs are bought

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) HENRY FREDERICK
Last name ALEXANDER
Gender Male
Birth day 21
Birth month 3
Birth year 1920
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1994
District Hastings & Rother
District number 4561B
Register number B57A
Entry number 263
Date of registration mm/yy 0494
County Sussex
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Deborah- nothing is certain yet.

However, the Henry F Alexander born 1920 Holborn looks likely and the family were living in the area at that time. His father was Herbert and he had an older brother Charles.

The second marriage for Vera would confirm her status- whether widowed, divorced.

Austin, what would the second marriage certificate give me? They were married in 1962.

I know that Vera and Herbert Sendall carried on living at Sutherland Rd.

My newly discovered relatives have said there were rumours of a wife swap. The above Henry F Alexander looks interesting.

From what you've all found I'm not sure if he remarried? I'm going to have to write it down to work it out. The Islington connection makes sense.

Austin.... the family tree was written by Emily King!!! This could be it!

Is it wrong that I'm getting to the point where I think these Alexanders need to sort out their name choices and damn well stick to them. I'm now making sure that my names are clear - just in case my ancestors need to research me! Lol

From a pdf on Islington "By 1946, Campbell Road (or Whadcoat Street as it was
now called) had declined......"

CAMPBELL ROAD (1864-5) Since 1938 WHADCOAT STREET.
Because of its poor housing and notoriety known colloquially as the 'Campbell Bunk'.

Could be- I'll check the electoral register for 1947- 1948

1947 & 1948- 27 Whadcoat Street:

Charles Heller
Alice Jellis
Ernest Jellis
Elizabeth A Pitcher
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So- not much use!