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Susan
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18 Jul 2017 00:08 |
Hello i am looking to find relations of thomas and elizabeth Richardson they use to live at new moss road manchester thomas owned two houses next to each other were my grandad william and granmother eliza ann Richardson live their children are Betty Bill Joyce pat and alma Thomas and elizabeth children are william and he had daughter thomas also had a daughter margaret Would like to hear from family as i am doing my family tree and they could help me out with information and photos hopefully.
Susan
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18 Jul 2017 01:02 |
Susan, although they aren't/weren't your relatives, it would really help if you gave a time line.
Can you estimate when they were born, and give an idea of when your grandparents were living in New Moss Rd? For instance, my grandparents were born in the late 1890's/early 1900. Our children's grandparents were born a generation later in the 1920's.
Can you confirm what you've said in your opening post please?
The neighbours Thomas & Elizabeth Richardson had a son, William. William Richardson had 2 children, Thomas & Margaret.
As your grandparents and the neighbours share the same surname, were the men related or is it a coincidence?
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Susan
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18 Jul 2017 03:29 |
Hello Thomas Richardson born 1882 married a Elizabeth Richardson in 1902 both from wallness lane thomas at 26 and elizabeth at 18 William born 1899 and eliza ann Richardson also lived at wallness It was around 1934 they all live at new moss road as i have them both there in 1939 Why i would like to get in touch with Thomas family is to see if they know anything on Elizabeth Richardson her father was Robert Richardson as i cannot find her or family before 1902 Just looking in my notes when married it has her as a spinster age 20 1902 But in the 1911 age 27 My mother said thomas son william was always called willie born about 1904 mum said thinks had 3 daughters one was called Dorise Thomas son thomas married a lady by the name if Betty and they had a daughter margaret The 2 houses in new moss road mum said her uncle thomas known as Tom called the property high banks Do hope this helps and someone knows the family Susan
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Susan
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18 Jul 2017 03:54 |
Hello Thomas Richardson born 1882 married a Elizabeth Richardson in 1902 both from wallness lane thomas at 26 and elizabeth at 18 William born 1899 and eliza ann Richardson also lived at wallness It was around 1934 they all live at new moss road as i have them both there in 1939 Why i would like to get in touch with Thomas family is to see if they know anything on Elizabeth Richardson her father was Robert Richardson as i cannot find her or family before 1902 Just looking in my notes when married it has her as a spinster age 20 1902 But in the 1911 age 27 My mother said thomas son william was always called willie born about 1904 mum said thinks had 3 daughters one was called Dorise Thomas son thomas married a lady by the name if Betty and they had a daughter margaret The 2 houses in new moss road mum said her uncle thomas known as Tom called the property high banks Do hope this helps and someone knows the family Susan
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2017 16:13 |
I can't see a marriage between a Thomas Richardson and any Elizabeth in the Salford / Manchester area in any year, let alone 1902, on Ancestry.
Presumably this is the family in 1911:
Thomas Richardson in the 1911 England Census Name: Thomas Richardson Age in 1911: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Broughton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 11 Thomas St Salford Marital Status: Married Occupation: Goods Hidman In Cloth Warehouse Registration district: Salford Registration District Number: 465 Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 24029 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Richardson 29 Elizabeth Richardson 27 - born Salford William Richardson 7 Thomas Richardson 3.
Married 9 years; three children, one deceased.
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2017 16:21 |
Just for reference -
Births of the sons:
RICHARDSON, THOMAS mms RICHARDSON GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 30
RICHARDSON, WILLIAM RICHARDSON GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 27
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2017 16:24 |
Oh, yes, here's the marriage. It doesn't seem to come up on Ancestry.
EDIT: after more hunting, yes it does show on Ancestry, but not at the top of the list even when all details are entered exactly.
Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%) Richardson Elizabeth Salford 8d 80 Richardson Thomas Salford 8d 80
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2017 16:30 |
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Elizabeth Richardson in the 1891 England Census Name: Elizabeth Richardson Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Elizabeth Richardson Gender: Female Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 5 Roberts Court Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3216 Folio: 122 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Richardson 27 - widow Elizabeth Richardson 7 Robert Richardson 4
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2017 16:33 |
Her mother had remarried by 1901:
Elizabeth Richardson in the 1901 England Census Name: Elizabeth Richardson [Elizabeth Murphy] Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: William Murphy Mother: Elizabeth Murphy Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 13 Barn Street Occupation: Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3731 Folio: 72 Page Number: 11 Household schedule number: 70 Household Members: Name Age William Murphy 40 Elizabeth Murphy 38 Elizabeth Richardson 17 Robert Richardson 14
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2017 16:38 |
Her parents' marriage:
Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%) MOULT Elizabeth Salford 8d 123 Scan available - click to view RICHARDSON Robert Salford 8d 123
and her birth:
RICHARDSON, ELIZABETH mms MOULT GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 82
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2017 16:40 |
One of these will be the death of Elizabeth's father Robert:
Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%) Richardson Robert 27 Salford 8d 67
Deaths Dec 1889 (>99%) Richardson Robert 29 Salford 8d 90
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2017 16:46 |
Possibly her mother's birth ???:
MOULT, ELIZABETH mms WATSON GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 584
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Susan
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18 Jul 2017 23:43 |
Good morning thank you for all that information i will look into to it you have really been a help ??
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