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It''s a little unlikely that the Valerie who died aged 24 in 1963, is the right one, unless Arthur married someone around 17 years his junior? I thought the idea was to ask for an electoral roll search?

The way we see it Arthur must of moved out of his house 56 years ago morgans road in Neath in 1961 and moved to a house in holly road Neath.
And then in 1963 when his wife died moved again at some time and from what we have been told he went on to re- marry
could do with a lead on his daughter Valarie Thomas really.?
Bitt confused now were to look next.
Lynette & Steve

Hi thank you for that info.
after contacting the place in Swansea wales above rose suggested they have found a record of a Valarie Thomas.
England?&?Wales?deaths?1837-2007?Transcrip?on
First?name(s) VALERIE
Last?name THOMAS
Gender Female
Birth?day ?
Birth?month ?
Birth?year 1939
Age 24
Death?quarter 1
Death?year 1963
District West?Glamorgan
County Glamorganshire
Volume 8B
Page 1027
Country Wales
Record?set England?&?Wales?Deaths?1837?2007
Category Birth,?Marriage,?Death?&?Parish?Records
Subcategory Deaths?&?burials
Collections?from Great?Britain
©?Findmypast

Perhaps Joan's family can help you- have you tried to trace siblings/ descendants?

1939:
Jones Household 68 Walters Road , Neath M.B., Glamorganshire, Wales

Thomas Jones 17 Oct 1890 Male Master Haulier Bean G Railway Married
Margaret J Jones 12 Nov 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Closed Record
Joan V Thomas (Jones) 29 May 1921 Female Inspection Department Washer Canningyng ? Single
David G Jones 12 Jul 1915 Male Tailors Clerk Married
Closed Record
Closed Record
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Births Sep 1915
Jones David G Hopkins Neath 11a 1913

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A tree on Ancestry has a photo of Joan's Mum, Margaret.

Hi. ok thank you for that I will contact them.

If the 1942 marriage is his, which does sound very likely, Arthur's birth is more likely to be 1922 than the 1927/8 you mention in other post. I think you have to consider that he is likely to be deceased.

West Glamorgan Archives page
http://www.swansea.gov.uk/familyhistory

scroll down to near the bottom 'leaflets and sources' and you can see that they have an electoral roll pdf, clicking on that gives a list of districts and years held , that includes Neath.

If you contact them you 'may' be able to pay to have a search done, which may be cheaper than travelling down?

All the information I mentioned can be found on FreeBMD.

Rose.

looking back at what info we have sofa
I think maybe his wife may of been Joan v Thomas/ re/ jones must be the one it all sort of fits she must of used her middle name and have gone by that V that's why people know his wife as Valarie maybe ?
where do I go from here then ? :-)

The way we see it now.
To find Arthur if still alive is to trace from electoral roll
and also his daughter Jaqueline who maybe married now
but I think to do this we would have to go to port Talbot (we are in Derbyshire so quite some miles away.
unless you know any other way to do it. ?
Our best lead yet was the lady we wrote to and then had a phone call from
who now lives at morgans road now who told us they moved to holly road 56 years ago when they sold the house to her. the year his wife Valerie would of died 1961 probley November as said before she was in the hospital in neath dying when my brother Russell was being born 17th nov 1961 the last time my birth mother beryl seen Arthur.

and a mariage in 1965?

Rose

There is a Jacqueline born a year or so after the marriage in Neath.

Rose

Back to my old posting:

Deaths Jun 1962 (>99%)
THOMAS Joan V 40 Neath 8b 449

Marriages Dec 1942
Jones Joan V Thomas Neath 11a 1701
Thomas Arthur J Jones Neath 11a 1701

Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Jones Joan V Hopkins Neath 11a 2072

Perhaps Joan was known as Valerie?

Rose

As I've said in my message , unless I am missing it, the only marriage I can see ( on Ancestry) to a Valerie is that of an Arthur R Thomas.

Not seeing a Jacqueline Thomas birth either? that can't be accounted for by other marriages)

There are a number of possible deaths, based only on middle initial J, rough DOB which is not certain, and location.

Name: Arthur John Thomas
Birth Date: 26 Aug 1922
Date of Registration: Oct 2003
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Rhondda
Register Number: 4B
District and Subdistrict: 864/1B
Entry Number: 138

Name: Arthur James Thomas
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1922
Date of Registration: Oct 2002
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Neath and Port Talbot
Inferred County: West Glamorgan
Register Number: A78D
District and Subdistrict: 8961A
Entry Number: 73

Name: Arthur John Thomas
Birth Date: 24 Nov 1924
Date of Registration: Mar 2002
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Mid Glamorgan
Register Number: A110A
District and Subdistrict: 8601A
Entry Number: 59

There are others which are also possible, so would possibly involve spending a small fortune on certs in the hope that NOK was informant, unless some of them can be ruled out.

UPDATE ON THIS. Any help please
We now know Arthur Thomas had a wife called Valarie and a daughter Jaqueline
there last known address was morgans road neat but we have been told by the current owners Arthur sold the house to them 56 years ago and moved to holly road Neath.
we have had no luck sofa still looking for him or his daughter from his first marriage Valarie Thomas
any help greatly appreciated
:-)

Have suggested Lynette continue on this thread, also that given there are two addresses now known that she try looking at Neath electoral rolls, if possible .

NUDGE

sorry no more clues this is all we have to go on.

Any more clues from the adoption records? Does Beryl remember the street he lived on?

Rose

hi,
Arthurs name was not on any of the birth certs.
Beryl used her first marriage name(married only about 8 months) before all this
and called them Christine Williams 1956
and Susan Williams1959 but no fathers name on birth certs.