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Just a little update for benefit other helpers :-) , a good connection has been made following the cert info & the OP is following several leads.

That's a really good start then :-)

So it would seem to suggest that the birth for Jacqueline mentioned earlier by Rose is likely to be the right one. Its the only one showing in that name for Neath that I can see, and marrying 1965.

Hi
We now have the death cert for Joan v Thomas.
Looks like rose was correct it is the one. Joan Valerie Thomas died may 1962
She must of gone by her middle name
it looks then she live a further 7 months from when Arthur was seen in Neath hospital.
this must been the start of his wife's decline nov 1961.
the address we had that they had moved to in 1961 stacks up as that is stated on the death cert. holly road Neath.
its hard to read but it looks like Arthur James Thomas ( steel worker/bricklayer) was present at her death ( husband) (my wife's farther)(steel worker) and that's correct.
in the first box on the cert on the left it also says 68 Walters road Neath ? that was Joan/Valerie's family home.
great news this gives us something to go on.
all the best
Steve & Lynette .

I've usually found they come after 2 weeks, but it can be longer, seems ages when you're waiting :-)

still waiting for certs to come back
they take a long time don't they :-(

ok ,thank you for your advise and help your a star

Lynette, a( and for ref other helpers) message sent on here re 'possible' recent eroll entries, ( see 'messages' at top of page and click on envelope)

I would check all other avenues mentioned, ie Neath electoral rolls for the period if possible, and purchase the marriages and deaths certs mentioned on this thread to confirm or eliminate.

I wouldn't say so no, not until you have something definite to go on as regards having the right parents for the right child. the electoral rolls and the possible marriages and deaths need to be checked first I think to either confirm or eliminate them.

If it is the birth of the Jacqueline in the 40s she will be in her 70s now, her father was unfaithful to her mother and within a short amount of time after her mother's death was trying to remarry and then as far as we can tell did so, at least once.

I would think very carefully before making any approach to her, even assuming you can find her. I'm sorry if that sounds discouraging, but proceed with caution and only when you have some definite facts to go on.

think only way forward is try trace daughter Jacqueline now maybe.

but would they know if they only bought the house from them? for instance my relative is known only by her middle name to everyone, even her mother :-)

we have just sent for the death cert for Joan v Thomas.
we will see what that reveals.
the person we spoke with again tonight(owners of morgan road) said his wife was called Valerie no mention of another first name ?

IF that is his marriage to Sylvia, there is another marriage for an Arthur J the year after her death which is on freebmd, I won't put the name as there is no death record and given her age she may well be alive, there is a son to that marriage 1967.

Add. Arthur J Thomas was on the electoral roll to 2002/3 with this wife and son in Neath, wife and son are listed on more recent electoral rolls, Arthur is not.that would suggest he has died.

Son looks to have married 2002.

There is also this lady, mentioned by Malyon

Name: Sylvia V Thomas
Birth Date: abt 1936
Date of Registration: Sep 1965
Age at Death: 29
Registration district: Neath
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 402

she appears from the 1939 register to be the one who married in 1962

Marriages Jun 1962 (>99%)

JOHNSTONE Sylvia V Thomas Neath 8b 683
THOMAS Arthur J JOHNSTONE Neath 8b 683

I think it much more likely that the details Rose has posted are worth looking at, buying the death cert for this lady would at least tell you where she died, the informant and cause of death, which might confirm it's the right one.

Deaths Jun 1962 (>99%)
THOMAS Joan V 40 Neath 8b 449

well if the daughter Jacqueline was about 8 when they moved in 1961 ish , born about 1953, then that can't be her mother's death as it would mean the mother was only 14 when the daughter was born. I think that's very unlikely.

I think your correct it would mean this Valerie would of been
14 when she had Jaqueline
do not think the Valerie they have said is the correct one then.! :-(

sorry only just seen your post about electoral roll.
that's the only info they have sent us so far death record

We think she was about 8 years old when they left morgans road so born around 1953
they all Moved 56 years ago from morgans road Neath to holly road.
Arthur, Valarie,Jacqueline

Did the lady who told you they had moved from Morgans Road, say how old the daughter was?

To be sure you will need to buy that cert from the GRO , for details of the informant and marital status of that Valerie.