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Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 16:04

I wonder if Doris EH Barnes is her maiden name or had she been married before... that would then show up as not Barnes for mmn.??

EDIT no I've found the birth for her so that brings us back to the list of Butler/Barnes births...

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 16:10

Ah ok I see that you have got the Hannah from trees here? has Doris on her tree,

Edit by a process of elimination the Hannah listed is one of the two of that name born after the marriage to Janine... ie 1986...

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 16:32

Oh I think I might have something... ! very odd though :-S

will PM an e roll entry, which makes no sense really.

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 16:52

I've sent a pm with an electoral roll for a Doris E Butler, with some of her children and husband Graham A.....

something is not adding up :-S as the e roll is for after the apparent death date....

unless there are two with the same names...

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 16:57

But then again the births or two of the children do match the Berkshire births as mentioned by Shirley...mmn Barnes.

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 17:06

There is a company record here for the G A Butler in Berkshire

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Bj6KDmhPCWspfOSiqG3umGEqil8/appointments

His DOB is different from that of the G A Butler who died in the IOW

so I am wondering if Tammi has spotted that marriage to Doris and assumed it was the same G A Butler... ? Same name different man!

Kim

Kim Report 30 Jul 2016 20:06

it is so confusing....
I have been trying to locate grandparents of tammi jane, thinking work backwards to move forward....no joy there either.
fact is tammi jane born isle of wight 1985.
mother Janine Lorraine Edwards/wright/butler born 1947 died 1987 isle of wight
father graham Arthur butler born 1947 died 1999 isle of wight
graham arthurs mum called edna Elizabeth burns/butler born 1920 Northumberland?
died isle of wight in 2003
father fred butler....no info...
brother to graham, spencer butler...no info...
then Janine Lorraine Edwards mum...called patricia...no info...and no info on her dad.
Janine Lorraine had a brother called carl Edwards... no info except he died?
Janine Lorraine married a john wright...no info...
then their are half siblings surname wright...keri, trudi,chris, tim. (keri has just died).
one more sibling somewhere called Samantha?
confused....
I haven't yet found marriage of fred/edna/ butler
cant yet find spencer butler.
cant find john wright/Janine/marriage..
cant find Janine lorraines parents?
appreciate any help.
tammi jane now orphaned would like to find living relatives.



:-) :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2016 20:51

Well the marrige cert to Arthur should name both fathers

Plus it should say if both parties had been married before

Sometimes you have to buy certs for their info

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2016 20:51


First name(s) JANINE LORRAINE
Last name BUTLER
Gender Female
Birth day 9
Birth month 2
Birth year 1947
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1987
District ISLE OF WIGHT
Register number 587
County Hampshire
Volume 20
Page 2028
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 20:53

Kim I take it Tammi has her father's birth cert for correct names of parents.?

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 20:55

Thing is there is a Butler/Burns marriage in Surrey 1941 matching Edna and Fred as the names you give, and one in Northumberland where Graham appears to have been born ( after his birth, but there could be reasons for that.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2016 21:02

She seemed to have been registered as just Janine

JANINE
Last name EDWARDS
Birth year 1947
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name DRAKELEY
District BRIGHTON
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 5H
Page 113
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd


Parents

Marriages Dec 1939
Drakeley Eileen P Edwards Brighton 2b 995
Edwards Eric E Drakeley Brighton 2b 995

So possibly her mum was Eileen Patricia and was known as Patrica

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2016 21:04

No Carl listed but this brother

Births Mar 1943
Edwards David N Drakeley Brighton 2b 287
Births Mar 1947 (>99%)
Edwards Janine Drakeley Brighton 5h 113

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 21:04

Shirley, she is also registered thus

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
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First name(s) JANINE
Last name PAVEY
Birth year 1947
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name DRAKELEY
District BRIGHTON
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 5H
Page 115
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

and there is a Janinie L Pavely marrying John Wright Brighton. 1964

Kim

Kim Report 30 Jul 2016 21:05

tammi thinks her grandparents married Northumberland.
the barnes/butler marriage lady called Cheryl/Sheryl, just looked for marriage for them cant find that either. :-) :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Jul 2016 21:09

Thanks rose
Am on FMP so it only comes up with what's asked for

Kim

Kim Report 30 Jul 2016 21:09

sounds like Janine an john wright in 1964
their children should be keri/trudi/chris/tim

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 21:13

Shirley that 's not them that you've posted,

it's 1964 Brighton

and there are Wright/Pavey children in Brighton and elsewhere, including Trudi...

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 21:16

Kim I can see Kerri Trudi and Chris...but not seeing Tim? what surname did he have?

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Jul 2016 21:17

Forget the Barnes/Butler marriage and everything to do with them it's not YOUR Graham Butler.