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Living descendants of Edward Lacey b Newark 1859

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patchem

patchem Report 26 Jun 2016 11:45

Gerald William and Irene Sigrid at 11 Gresham Gardens Hendon on 1939 ER on Ancetry.

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jun 2016 11:37

Gerald William Knowles is living at 45 Mexfield Road, Wandsworth, on the ER in 1923, also in the house Walter and Lily Goldsack.

Not yet found him in 1939 (with or without a new wife).

Added:
Could be in Woodstock Avenue, Barnet, with Irene Sigrid in 1934

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jun 2016 07:10

I posted a possible death for Minna on the first page.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 17:51

Gerald's death:

Gerald William Knowles
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Gerald William Knowles
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1902
Date of Registration: Mar 1981
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Aylesbury
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 19
Page: 0953

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 17:43


This will be the marriage (which you know about already):

Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%)
Knowles Gerald W Lacey Wandsworth 1d 1159
Lacey Evelyn V Knowles Wandsworth 1d 1159


EDIT:
This will be his baptism:

Benjamin Gerald William Knowles
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Benjamin Gerald William Knowles
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1902
Baptism Date: 23 Mar 1902
Baptism Place: St. Barnabas, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father: Benjamin Garabaldi Knowles
Mother: Emma Adelphi
FHL Film Number: 355613
Reference ID: v 6 p 97


The tree says "No known children". But that's not necessarily correct.

Raymond's birth in Wandsworth, where Evelyn & Gerald married, looks like a reasonable possibility.

However, without knowing what the G stands for (presumably Gerald, but maybe not), it's hard to know if he married or died, or to find him on electoral rolls.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 17:42

I can't see Minnie after 1911, either.

A tree on Ancestry says that Evelyn married Benjamin Gerald William Knowles "about 1920", and that this is her death;

Deaths Sep 1931 (>99%)
Knowles Evelyn V 32 Kingston 2a 539

Karen

Karen Report 25 Jun 2016 17:35

ArgyllGran. That's another possibility eliminated. Just can't find her, no marriage or death so far.
Many thanks to you.

Karen

Karen Report 25 Jun 2016 17:32

Would someone be able to access the 1939 register please.
I'm looking to see if there is Evelyn Victoria Lacey b1897 married to Gerald Knowles and possibly a son Raymond G who was born 1926.
London or Surrey area possibly.
Many thanks.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 15:34

Presumably this is the travel record you refer to. This Minnie is a servant, which fits, but there's no other info to identify her. Apparently travelling alone:

Minnie Lacey
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Minnie Lacey
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1887
Departure Date: 22 Mar 1908
Port of Departure: Queenstown, Ireland
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Mauretania
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 124093
Master: J Pritchard


EDIT:
No, it's not her.
Here's the arrival in NY, she's Irish:

Minnie Lacey
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Minnie Lacey
Arrival Date: 28 Mar 1908
Birth Date: abt 1887
Birth Location: Ireland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Location Other: newcastle west <<<<<<<<<<<<
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Queenstown, Ireland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Mauretania

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jun 2016 15:15

this looks like Minna / Minnie in 1911:

Minnie Lacey
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Minnie Lacey
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1887 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Colchester, Essex, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Bournemouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: 26 Walpole Rd, Boscombe, Bournemouth
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Parlourmaid Domestic
Registration district: Christchurch
Registration District Number: 95
Sub-registration district: Bournemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 12
Piece: 5851
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry White 52 - head
Emma White 52 - wife
Minnie Lacey 24
Charles Zebeder 55 - boarder
Charles Cornish 17 - boarder
Constance Light 27 - boarder
Jane Wakefield 38 - boarder
Alice Smith 18 - servant
Hannah Withers 67 - lodger

Karen

Karen Report 25 Jun 2016 13:16

I wonder if someone could look on ancestry for me please. I think Minna Elizabeth Lacey may have been a servant to a George Waterman in South Stoneham in 1901. Its possible she went to New York in around 1908 and I wonder if she went with this family. Thank you.

Karen

Karen Report 24 Jun 2016 11:13

Thanks for the look-up.

patchem

patchem Report 23 Jun 2016 20:16

1871 census
Newark on Trent Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: Newark County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Registration district: Newark Sub-registration district: Newark
Eliza Lacy 46 widowed
Peity Turner 28
Annie Lacy 17
Elizabeth Lacy 14
Edward Lacy 12
Mary Lacy 11
Meriner Lacy 8
Class: RG10; Piece: 3541; Folio: 71; Page: 18; GSU roll: 839757

patchem

patchem Report 23 Jun 2016 20:13

Births Mar 1857
Lacy Edward Newark 7b 310

1861 census
Newark on Trent Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Registration district: Newark Sub-registration district: Newark
Charles Lacy 29 all born in Newark
Eliza Lacy 38
Putry Furner 19 daughter
Ann Lacy 8
Elizabeth Lacy 6
Edward Lacy 4
Mary Lacy 7/12
Class: RG 9; Piece: 2478; Folio: 67; Page: 9; GSU roll: 542977

Added;
possibly this marriage
Marriages Dec 1851
Lacy Charles Newark 15 1144
Turner Eliza Newark 15 1144

patchem

patchem Report 23 Jun 2016 20:01

Do you have his Father's name from Edward's wedding certificate, and have you definitely identified his birth?

Karen

Karen Report 23 Jun 2016 19:16

Would someone kindly do a census look-up for me.

I'm looking for Edward Lacey born 1859 in Newark Notts., hopefully with a sister who may be Laura? Elizabeth Lacey born in 1854. So the 1861 and/or 1871 would be great.

thanks

Karen

Karen Report 23 Jun 2016 14:05

I have now found Charles in the 1939 census.
He was married to Edith Street at the time and living with his parents, Edward and Clara.
No sign of children still.
Frustrating.

Karen

Karen Report 22 Jun 2016 21:48

Yes it looks like there were no children.
Thanks again folks, I'll keep on trying though.

malyon

malyon Report 21 Jun 2016 13:32

if may clara married 1946 she would have been 44yrs old so perhaps had no children

malyon

malyon Report 21 Jun 2016 13:18


Births Jun 1892 (>99%)

Lacey Bertie William Colchester 4a 596