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Pamela Constance Mabel Greene Bernard Caleb Clarke

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Apr 2016 21:34

I won't bother posting the details, as you've probably got them already, but some simple searching gave the information that Bernard's sister Edith married, but had no children.

His sister Laura Isabella married in 1892, and had a son and a daughter.
The son, Robert, married in 1924, and had 4 children, 1926-34.

Their names are easily findable on freebmd.org.uk, if by some chance you don't already know them.
They may still be alive, and may have married and had children themselves.


Laura Isabella's daughter, Edith May, married in 1926, and probably had a son, born 1927 in Basford, who appears to have died in Nottingham in 1988. I can't telll if he married or not.

Unknown

Unknown Report 19 Apr 2016 02:13

Thanks for your help, I have done all of the above but just thought I would try this to find living relatives.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Apr 2016 11:53

Use the Search All Member Trees function - top right under search.

Just picking the name Laura J Clarke from the 1881 census as above, there is one person who has someone similar listed.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/messages/54686/discover?rk=551193875

It is an old account, but there's no harm in sending him a message

Rather than repeat forward searches you may have already made, could you tell us the most recent records you've found please? No one, however much they enjoy researching, likes spending their own time looking only to be told that you already were aware of that.
;-)

Unknown

Unknown Report 18 Apr 2016 07:00

Yes thanks, descendants of siblings,relatives.

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Apr 2016 10:40

Did you mean that you wished to trace living descendants of Bernard and Mabel's siblings?

1881

Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Robert Clarke Head Married Male 36 1845 Coal Miner West Hallam, Derbyshire, England
Charlotte Clarke Wife Married Female 35 1846 Milliner Smalley, Derbyshire, England
Laura J Clarke Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Milliner Smalley, Derbyshire, England
Edith C Clarke Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Kirk Hallam, Derbyshire, England
Bernard C Clarke Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
Bertram T Clarke Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Apr 2016 09:27

We didn't know what you already knew as you didn't make that clear.

I was trying to ascertain if Bernard and Mary had any children.

Did Bernard's 2 children Owen and Constance also go to Australia?

What happened to Pamela Constance Mabel Greene and who were her parents?

Unknown

Unknown Report 17 Apr 2016 09:20

thanks but I know all this, I am looking for living relatives. Anne

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Apr 2016 09:02

Here is Mary Ann Clarke nee Tatham on the 1911 census......

Mary Jane Clarker in the 1911 England Census (Clarke on the image)
Name: Mary Jane Clarker
Age in 1911: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Ilkeston
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 283 Nottingham Rd Ilkeston
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston

Household Members:

Bonpamin Tarham 71 >>>>Benjamin
Elizabet Tarham 69 >>>>Elizabeth
Mary Jane Clarker 38
Edmand Tarham 31 (Son)

Mary married 14 years......Children none.

Mary Jane Tatham in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Mary Jane Tatham
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1873
Marriage Date: 7 Jun 1896
Marriage Place: St. Mary, Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
Father: Benjamin Tatham
Spouse: Bernard Caleb Clarke



Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2016 07:53

There is a public tree on Ancestry

Pamela Constance Mabel GREENE
Pamela Constance Mabel GREENE
1881–
BIRTH JUN 1881 • Kennington, stockwell,
DEATH Unknown
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Birth
Jun 1881 • Kennington, stockwell,
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1881
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1881
1881
Birth (Alternative)
1883 • London, United Kingdom
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1883
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Residence
02 Apr 1911 • Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
1 Source
1911
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bernard was allredy married


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Pamela Constance Mabel GREENE
Pamela Constance Mabel GREENE
1881–
BIRTH JUN 1881 • Kennington, stockwell,
DEATH Unknown
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Name and gender
Birth
Jun 1881 • Kennington, stockwell,
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1881
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1881
1881
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1883 • London, United Kingdom
1 Source
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Residence
02 Apr 1911 • Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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bernard was allredy married .
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Family
Parents
James Ignatius GREENE
1853–1934
Pamela BISNEY
1853–
Spouse & Children
Bernard CLARK
1881–
Owen Clark GREENE 1910–
Constance P GREENE 1913–

The tree has a picture of her

Tree Owner Miller 20142

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2016 07:27

Not picking up any travel info for them

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2016 07:18

This looks like the boys birth
OWEN BERNARD C
Last name GREENE
Birth year 1909
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 257
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2016 07:11

Not with his family in. 1911. note the Greene people with him. had he left his wife maybe ???

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12 Watt Street Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Annie Finney Head Married Female Blouse Overlooker 35 1876 Nuttall Notts Transcription
Gladys May Finney Daughter Single Female - 15 1896 Nottingham Transcription
Bernard Clarke Visitor Married Male Hosiery Warehouseman 37 1874 Ilkeston Transcription
Mabel Greene - Single Female - 28 1883 London Transcription
Owen Clarke Greene - - Male - 1. 1911 Beeston

Am guessing that he had because note the little boys name
He lists married 12 years no children put in. But it's been crossed through

Mabel lists single but one child born and living

There isn't another marrige for him to a Pamela Greene. But she is using the name Mabel which is one if the names you list

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2016 07:05

This looks like them on the 1901 census. Born Derbyshire living in Nottiingham with his family

England Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
11, Mill Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Robert Clarke Head Married Male 56 1845 Coal Miner Hewer West Hallam, Derbyshire, England Transcription
Charlotte Clarke Wife Married Female 55 1846 - Smalley, Derbyshire, England Transcription
Bernard Clarke Son Married Male 29 1872 Hosiery Counter Man Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England Transcription
Mary J Clarke Son's Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England Transcription

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2016 06:53

Had he been married before

BERNARD CALEB
Last name CLARKE
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1896
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ BERNARD CALEB CLARKE married one of these people
MARY JANE LATHAM, MARIA LAWRENSON
District BASFORD
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 335
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Bernard Caleb
Last name Clarke
Marriage year 1896
Parish St.Mary
Place Ilkeston
Spouse's first name Mary Jane
Spouse's last name Tatham
Reference C10/05/152
Register Office 396
County Derbyshire
Country England
Record set Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
Derbyshire Family History

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2016 06:51

How much info have you got on them so we don't duplicate what you already know

Ie birth and marrige certs. Census info etc .

Unknown

Unknown Report 17 Apr 2016 01:55

I am looking for relatives of my grandparents who lived in Nottingham. My grandfather came to Australia in 1920. Anne