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William

William Report 3 Oct 2015 13:59

Hello.
Sorry that was why I asked at the start of this post for advice on the amount of information I could post without intruding on anybody's privacy.

What I have is the following :-
1951 Wedding Cert - Michael Joseph Greene to Margaret Walker ( my mother in law - Church of Kinvara - District - GORT
1952 My wife's Birth Cert - Father Michael Joseph Greene.- Born in Coventry
1931 Birth Cert - Michael Joseph Greene - Kinvara - GORT.
It is my assumption that the three events are linked?
Thanks for your help.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 3 Oct 2015 00:36

does it say M.J. or Michael Joseph?

helpers need to know everything you know ... we can't see the certificate :-)


can you explain how you know his mother's name?

is it from a birth certificate that you are not sure is his for instance?


from the other thread ... toggling back and forth to find all the info that was offered there (and to determine whether it has been verified when it is finally offered in this new thread that was posted without offering an iota of the work already done) is pretty tiresome

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 about Michael J Greene
Name: Michael J Greene
Mother's Surname: Broderick
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Registration District: Gort
Birth Country: Ireland

if the father's name on the marriage certificate to your wife's mother matches the name on that birth certificate, then it seems likely that it is him

William

William Report 1 Oct 2015 19:50

Hi .

I am back.
M.J.Greene's mothers Christian name was Kate.
My wife's birth certificate quotes fathers name as M.J.
Does this help ?

William

William Report 30 Sep 2015 20:53

Hi .
I need to assimilate all this info. will do tomorrow late afternoon - Thanks

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Sep 2015 19:20

This is frustrating!

I wondered if there was another way to trace him- your other post suggests his mother was surname Broderick.

I don't see a John Greene/ Broderick marriage- what was the mother's first name listed on Michael's birth certificate?

There is a possible brother born 1929 Gort, Joseph J, and sister, Philomena who died as young child (1934-1937). So Michael, or family might possibly be traced through Joseph J(ohn?), or through his parents (they may have left Wills).

There is a Joseph J marriage in 1958 Coventry which could be the brother.

There is also a Patrick J born 1928 Galway with the same mm which could be worth looking into.

EDIT: possible death for that child:
Name: Patrick Joseph Greene
Estimated birth year: abt 1928
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Death Age: 0
Registration district: Galway
Volume: 4 Page: 127

Oh, and I see on his marriage in 1951 Michael is listed without the J? Who were the witnesses to the marriage- if it was his birth place, they could be relatives.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 30 Sep 2015 18:04

Plasterer and Labourer aren't a problem. The first names might be

William

William Report 30 Sep 2015 17:54

Thanks.
Fathers Christian name is Joseph not John occupation is Plasterer not Labourer.
What do you think ??

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 29 Sep 2015 16:50

Don't worry if ages are slightly out. Unless you know his exact DOB, your calculation could be out by a year. Even then, either party have been known to have added or subtracted a few years if there was a large age difference. They didn't have to show a BC.

The name of the father and/or their occupation are more relevant.

William

William Report 29 Sep 2015 15:52

Thanks everybody .

1959 Marriage puts him at negative 1 year and fathers Christian name different.
1960 Marriage puts him at negative 3 years and fathers Christian name different.

:-|

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Sep 2015 08:26

There are these marriages for Michael J Greene in

1957 Birmingham to Mary A (this couple are on the electoral register at 3 st. Martin's Street from 1960 to at least 1965, possible son John C born 1958). This is possibly the Michael that died 6 Nov 2008 as posted above (so may be not this one as date of birth is incorrect):
http://www.bmdsonline.co.uk/birmingham-mail/obituary/michael-greene/1331581?s_source=tmmi_bmem

1959 Coventry to Joan (but not this one according to marriage cert you have)

1960 Coventry to Jean E (possible son Paul F). This couple appear on the current electoral register still living in Coventry.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Sep 2015 20:51

What details didn't fit in the 1959 marriage?

There appear to be children born as Green to this marriage. There is another marriage with this surname combination a little later though.

Rose

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Sep 2015 20:35

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl gives one birth for a Greene + 1959 spouse, in 1959 Coventry

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Sep 2015 20:30

Ancestry has thrown this transcription up - no idea if its correct especially as the dob could be wrong

Name: Mr Michael Joseph Greene
Gender: Male
Age: 76
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1932
Death Date: 6 Nov 2008
Residence Place at Death: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Postal Code District: B31

His Estate went to Probate, You could order a copy for £10
http://tiny.cc/ppkz3x
Main search page https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Surname First name Date of probate Probate number Date of death Document type Registry
GREENE MICHAEL JOSEPH 12 January 2009 2926286 06 November 2008 Grant and will Birmingham

William

William Report 28 Sep 2015 18:57

Thanks for all of your replies.
Birth 1931 fits.
Married also in 1951 and divorced .
Marriage 1959 looked promising but details didn't match completely - However if there were children from it they may be worth contacting ? :-)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 Sep 2015 18:47

born 1931, Galway

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Sep 2015 17:42

Was the 1959 Coventry marriage his?

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Sep 2015 17:41

Lot more info. in your previous thread.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1329426

Rose

William

William Report 28 Sep 2015 17:14

My wife is 63 and is searching for her birth father who she has never met ..and any siblings .
His name is Michael Joseph Greene - we do not know whether he is dead or alive .
We have an army number from her birth certificate - Royal Warks. 22609224 .
We also have his marriage and birth certificate .
Any help would be appreciated -but we are unsure what detail we can add to the post without intruding on privacy.
Thanks