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Cole Family Plymouth Devon

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Vincent

Vincent Report 10 Aug 2015 20:49

Looking for relatives from my Grandfather Charles James Cole born 1909 Parents William Henry Cole And Mary Smith Siblings William, Frederick Alfred Albert Violet Lavinia and a few others i think. Family originated fro Northlew in Devon.
Many Thanks. <3

patchem

patchem Report 10 Aug 2015 20:59

Have you looked to see if any of these people are in family trees on here?

Have you tried to identify their dates of birth from the censuses and free bmd? (Mary Smith is a very common name without some more information.)

Are the Coles from Plymouth and the Smiths from Northlew?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2015 21:05

Is this the family in 1911?

ame: Mary Cole
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon
Civil Parish: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 8 Rendle St, Plymouth
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration District Number: 276
Sub-registration district: Plymouth South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 195
Piece: 12981
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Cole 39
Ellen Cole 19
Violet Cole 7
Alfred Cole 10
Fredrick Cole 4
Charles Cole 1

Mary married 21 years, 10 children born, 3 died.
Although she says she is married, she is also head of the household and the details re length of marriage and number of children have been crossed out.
She and all the children were born in Plymouth

patchem

patchem Report 10 Aug 2015 21:07

For ref. (I hope correct family)
e: Mary Cole
Age in 1911: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Married 21 years, 10 children born, 7 living
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon
Civil Parish: Plymouth County/Island: Devon Country: England
Street address: 8 Rendle St, Plymouth Registration district: Plymouth
Registration District Number: 276 Sub-registration district: Plymouth South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 195
Mary Cole 39 all born Plymouth
Ellen Cole 19
Violet Cole 7
Alfred Cole 10
Fredrick Cole 4
Charles Cole 1
Class: RG14; Piece: 12981; Schedule Number: 195

patchem

patchem Report 10 Aug 2015 21:09

1901
William H Cole
Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary E Cole
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 2101 Folio: 11
Page Number: 14 Household schedule number: 102
William H Cole 38
Mary E Cole 29
William H Cole 10
Ellen B Cole 9
Lavinia Cole 6
Alfred Cole 2/12
Class: RG13; Piece: 2101; Folio: 11; Page: 14

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2015 21:18

Name: Ellen Beatrice Cole
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 249

Marriage
Name: Ellen B Cole
Spouse Surname:Herbert J Symons
Registration Year: 1914
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 655




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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2015 21:22

Ellen's children?
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
Symons Albert E S Cole Plymouth 5b 345

Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
SYMONS Ellen _ Cole Plymouth 5b 245
the missing initial might well be B -for Beatrice?
......

Look for possible marriages/deaths for the Ellen's siblings and her own children on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2015 21:34

Possibly daughter Ellen 1918's marriage?

First name(s) Ellen Beatrice
Last name Symons
Marriage year 1938
Marriage date 14 May 1938
Parish St Jude
Place Plymouth, St Jude
Spouse's first name(s) Arthur
Spouse's last name Dolman
Denomination Anglican
City or town Plymouth
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Record set Devon Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

her death

First name(s) ELLEN BEATRICE
Last name DOLMAN
Gender Female
Birth day 9
Birth month 12
Birth year 1917
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1992
District PLYMOUTH
Register number 692
County Devon
Volume 21
Page 1664

A birth late in one year could be registered in the first quarter of the next, hence a 1918 registration

Check Freebmd for any Dolman/Symons births - if there are any, they could still be living -there are 3 showing on findmypast - 1940, 1947 & 1954 all in Plymouth

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2015 21:44

Alberts marriage


First name(s) ALBERT E S
Last name SYMONS
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1936
Spouse's last name FAYE
District PLYMOUTH
District number -
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 475

ALBERT E S SYMONS married MARY E FAYE

There are 3 Symons/Faye births showing on freebmd. There are also additional marriages for an Albert E S Symons in 1987 and 1995! None of his children carry exactly the same name, so he could have married 3 times in total.

His death
ALBERT ERNEST S
Last name SYMONS
Gender Male
Birth day 26
Birth month 10
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1999
District PLYMOUTH
District number 4161D
Register number D59A
Entry number 119
Date of registration mm/yy 03/99
County Devon

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2015 21:53

William Henry Cole Jr baptism (findmypast)


First name(s) William Henry
Last name Cole
Birth year 1890
Birth date 20 Aug 1890
Baptism year 1890
Baptism date 17 Sep 1890
Denomination Anglican
Place Plymouth, All Saints
Father's first name(s) William Henry
Mother's first name(s) Mary Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
County Devon
Country England
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Archive reference 599/1/a
Page -
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms

Probably his death

First name(s) WILLIAM H
Last name COLE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year (cal) 1891
Age 62
Death quarter 2
Death year 1953
District PLYMOUTH
County Devon
Volume 7A
Page 617

There are several marriages for a William H Cole in the right area - any one of them or all could be his!

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Aug 2015 22:02

It might be best to wait for Vincent's return before trying to trace forward the other siblings as

a) Do we have the right family?
b) We don't know what research Vincent has done himself