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10 Aug 2015 20:49 |
Looking for relatives from my Grandfather Charles James Cole born 1909 Parents William Henry Cole And Mary Smith Siblings William, Frederick Alfred Albert Violet Lavinia and a few others i think. Family originated fro Northlew in Devon. Many Thanks. <3
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10 Aug 2015 20:59 |
Have you looked to see if any of these people are in family trees on here?
Have you tried to identify their dates of birth from the censuses and free bmd? (Mary Smith is a very common name without some more information.)
Are the Coles from Plymouth and the Smiths from Northlew?
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10 Aug 2015 21:05 |
Is this the family in 1911?
ame: Mary Cole Age in 1911: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon Civil Parish: Plymouth County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: 8 Rendle St, Plymouth Registration district: Plymouth Registration District Number: 276 Sub-registration district: Plymouth South West ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 195 Piece: 12981 Household Members: Name Age Mary Cole 39 Ellen Cole 19 Violet Cole 7 Alfred Cole 10 Fredrick Cole 4 Charles Cole 1
Mary married 21 years, 10 children born, 3 died. Although she says she is married, she is also head of the household and the details re length of marriage and number of children have been crossed out. She and all the children were born in Plymouth
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10 Aug 2015 21:07 |
For ref. (I hope correct family) e: Mary Cole Age in 1911: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Married 21 years, 10 children born, 7 living Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon Civil Parish: Plymouth County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: 8 Rendle St, Plymouth Registration district: Plymouth Registration District Number: 276 Sub-registration district: Plymouth South West ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 195 Mary Cole 39 all born Plymouth Ellen Cole 19 Violet Cole 7 Alfred Cole 10 Fredrick Cole 4 Charles Cole 1 Class: RG14; Piece: 12981; Schedule Number: 195
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10 Aug 2015 21:09 |
1901 William H Cole Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Mary E Cole Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon, England Civil Parish: Plymouth Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Plymouth Sub-registration district: St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 2101 Folio: 11 Page Number: 14 Household schedule number: 102 William H Cole 38 Mary E Cole 29 William H Cole 10 Ellen B Cole 9 Lavinia Cole 6 Alfred Cole 2/12 Class: RG13; Piece: 2101; Folio: 11; Page: 14
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10 Aug 2015 21:18 |
Name: Ellen Beatrice Cole Registration Year: 1891 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Plymouth Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 249
Marriage Name: Ellen B Cole Spouse Surname:Herbert J Symons Registration Year: 1914 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Plymouth Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 655
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10 Aug 2015 21:22 |
Ellen's children? Births Dec 1914 (>99%) Symons Albert E S Cole Plymouth 5b 345
Births Mar 1918 (>99%) SYMONS Ellen _ Cole Plymouth 5b 245 the missing initial might well be B -for Beatrice? ......
Look for possible marriages/deaths for the Ellen's siblings and her own children on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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10 Aug 2015 21:34 |
Possibly daughter Ellen 1918's marriage?
First name(s) Ellen Beatrice Last name Symons Marriage year 1938 Marriage date 14 May 1938 Parish St Jude Place Plymouth, St Jude Spouse's first name(s) Arthur Spouse's last name Dolman Denomination Anglican City or town Plymouth County Devon Archive South West Heritage Trust Record set Devon Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
her death
First name(s) ELLEN BEATRICE Last name DOLMAN Gender Female Birth day 9 Birth month 12 Birth year 1917 Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1992 District PLYMOUTH Register number 692 County Devon Volume 21 Page 1664
A birth late in one year could be registered in the first quarter of the next, hence a 1918 registration
Check Freebmd for any Dolman/Symons births - if there are any, they could still be living -there are 3 showing on findmypast - 1940, 1947 & 1954 all in Plymouth
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10 Aug 2015 21:44 |
Alberts marriage
First name(s) ALBERT E S Last name SYMONS Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1936 Spouse's last name FAYE District PLYMOUTH District number - County Devon Country England Volume 5B Page 475
ALBERT E S SYMONS married MARY E FAYE
There are 3 Symons/Faye births showing on freebmd. There are also additional marriages for an Albert E S Symons in 1987 and 1995! None of his children carry exactly the same name, so he could have married 3 times in total.
His death ALBERT ERNEST S Last name SYMONS Gender Male Birth day 26 Birth month 10 Birth year 1914 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 1999 District PLYMOUTH District number 4161D Register number D59A Entry number 119 Date of registration mm/yy 03/99 County Devon
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10 Aug 2015 21:53 |
William Henry Cole Jr baptism (findmypast)
First name(s) William Henry Last name Cole Birth year 1890 Birth date 20 Aug 1890 Baptism year 1890 Baptism date 17 Sep 1890 Denomination Anglican Place Plymouth, All Saints Father's first name(s) William Henry Mother's first name(s) Mary Elizabeth Mother's last name - County Devon Country England Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Archive reference 599/1/a Page - Record set Devon Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms
Probably his death
First name(s) WILLIAM H Last name COLE Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year (cal) 1891 Age 62 Death quarter 2 Death year 1953 District PLYMOUTH County Devon Volume 7A Page 617
There are several marriages for a William H Cole in the right area - any one of them or all could be his!
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10 Aug 2015 22:02 |
It might be best to wait for Vincent's return before trying to trace forward the other siblings as
a) Do we have the right family? b) We don't know what research Vincent has done himself
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