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Update on my previous post from last year.

I have found out that Norman Clark Smith, my Great Uncle Died at age 18, so he is not the Norman that went overseas.

I can't find a death record for James Smith or Marion Smith. They are both a mystery as I have searched many different sites.

Marion Smith stayed with my Great Grandfather until his death in 1913 at 12 Rottenrow, then I can't find any further record of her. Perhaps she married, but I can't find any record of this either.

There is no mention of James, who I presume was married, as he is not mentioned in the 1911 census, or perhaps he went overseas.

I seem to have hit some brick walls for the meantime.

Thank you, rootgather.

Does anyone know how I could find out about Schools in the Glasgow Area in 1901?

I would like to trace the school my great grandfather was janitor of, presumably in the Rottenrow Area.

1901

Peter Smith
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/5
Registration district: Blackfriars
Civil Parish: Glasgow Robertson Memorial
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 14 Rottenrow St
Occupation: Janitor Of School
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 22
LINE: 16
Roll: CSSCT1901_283
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Smith 50
Mary Smith 53, b. Mull
James Smith 23, Compositor, b. Glasgow
Peter Smith 28, Tinsmith, b. Glasgow
Marion Smith 15, Mantle Maher Apprentice, b. Glasgow
Norman C Smith 12, b. Glasgow

Thank you very much, it was a great surprise thismorning to open up my computer and find more suggestions. I really appreciate this, as I am a bit at sea with my research.

My Father and Mother came to New Zealand when I was a baby, and as my Father died when I was quite young, I can't remember anything very much that was said about his Smith Family. I knew his grandfather had been a school janitor but as for any family members nothing was said. I did know that his Grandmother Mary was from the Isle of Mull.

I will take a look into Norman Smith a bit more closely now.

I seem to remember something about a Policeman being in the Smith family, but that could be wrong.

I will look for a birth record of Norman around 1889 on Scotlands People.

Thank you Yvonne and Joonie Cloonie.

Isabella

for info of others searching, dates of birth of children are important

1891 Scotland census in Glasgow St James

Peter Smith 40 (c1851) school janitor
Mary McCallum Smith 42 (c1849)
James Smith 15 (c1876)
Peter Smith 12 (c1879)
Marion Smith 5 (c1886)
Norman C Smith 2 (c1889)

so the death in British Columbia does match the age of Norman in the household ... Isabella do you have your Norman's exact dob from a birth record?

what you really need is to access 1911 census records at scotlandspeople to try to find the children married and possibly with children

there is only one marriage of a Norman Smith to a Christina MacLeod in Scotland after 1905: in 1959 (need credits to see details)

and no marriage in British Columbia (records go up to 1936)

http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-3DD82D0/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths

this is the death of Christina MacLeod Smith in BC

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRK-X2B

Name: Christina Hughina Smith
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 16 Nov 1956
Event Place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Gender: Female
Age: 64
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1892
Birthplace: , Scotland
Father's Name: John Macleod
Mother's Name: Morrison
Spouse's Name: Norman Smith
Affiliate Film Number: B13230

but without her mother's given name it is difficult to spot her in the 1901 census ... the only one with father John is in Stornaway where the name is concentrated

the record for the Norman Smith death is here

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLYX-ZTL

and you can view the image from that record

he had been in Canada for 58 years in 1969 and in Vancouver for 32 years

he was a civil engineer ... unfortunately, no family member is named on the certificate

Norman Smith
British Columbia Death Registrations
Name: Norman Smith
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 20 Jan 1969
Event Place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 79
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Date: 05 Feb 1889
Birthplace: , Scotland
Father's Name: Smith
Spouse's Name: Christina Macleod
Affiliate Film Number: B13294

found on familysearch its free

Thank you Yvonne, I will look into these, that is very helpful.

Catherine Clark Smith
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 28 July 1862 HIGH CHURCH, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTLAND
father: James Smith
mother: Helen Clark

Robert Smith
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 31 January 1864 HUTCHESONTOWN, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTLAND
father: James Smith
mother: Helen Clark

Archibald Smith
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 29 May 1859 HIGH CHURCH, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTLAND
father: James Smith
mother: Helen Clarke

Janet Smith
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 17 October 1845 , GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTLAND
father: James Smith
mother: Helen Clark

Ann Smith
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 2 May 1855 HIGH CHURCH, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTLAND
father: James Smith
mother: Helen Clark

Janet Smith
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 22 July 1856 HIGH CHURCH, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTLAND
father: James Smith
mother: Helen Clark

Helen Clarke
Scotland, Births and Baptisms
Name: Helen Clarke
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 04 Dec 1818
Birthplace: GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Peter Clarke
Mother's Name: Janet Yuille

James Smith
Scotland, Births and Baptisms
Name: James Smith
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 23 Jun 1819
Birthplace: GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Peter Smith
Mother's Name: Jean Mclachlan

I am looking for anyone who can help with information on the above couple, in the hope of finding any living relatives from their children, Peter, James, Norman or Marion.

Mary was born in Kilnnian and Kilmore, Isle of Mull around 1846 -48, she had one sister named Ann. As far as I know they moved with their Mother to Glasgow when very young, when she remarried a Hugh Campbell on Kilnnian and Kilmore, Isle of Mull.

I am Mary's great grand daughter through her son Peter.

Peter Smith's father was a James Smith and his Mother a Helen Clark. I can find no details on Helen Clark or James Smith, born around 1818- 1820.

I know that the family had a long association with Glasgow Cathedral, and that my Great Grandfather Peter, was a School Janitor somewhere in the Glasgow City area.

Mary's Mother was Marion McArthur and she had two marriages. Mary does have brothers from her Mothers second marriage. I would be keen to find any living relatives from this connection as well.

Hoping that someone can help. :-)