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13 Apr 2015 11:10 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1351162
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carol
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12 Apr 2015 18:57 |
heres wishing we had your expertise!!....that seems to explain a lot and we can fill in another side of the tree....probably never will find out who was the father of adam c1841 was....unless any descendants turn up with any possible info....thank you so much....some birth marriage death certs still seem bit elusive...but will revisit Scotland people again with your info :-D
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Gritty
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12 Apr 2015 18:13 |
1841: Adam (that married Isabella Grierson)
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Killywhan, Kirkgunzeon, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Richard Corrie Male 55 1786 Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Mary Corrie Female 55 1786 Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Adam Corrie Male 30 1811 Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Duglas Corrie Male 25 1816 Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Thomas Corrie Male 25 1816 Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Anne Corrie Female 15 1826 Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Mary Corrie Female 13 1828 Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland -----------------------------------------------------------------
and his baptism: Name: Adam Corrie Gender: Male Christening Date: 21 Dec 1804 Christening Place: , LOCHRUTTON, KIRKCUDBRIGHT, SCOTLAND Father's Name: Richard Corrie Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11875-2 , System Origin: Scotland-VR , GS Film number: 1068033 , Reference ID: 2:165TBXW
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Gritty
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12 Apr 2015 17:51 |
William's family in 1851 (Adam Currie/ Isabella Grierson):
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Barbith House, New Abbey, Thos Porteous, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Adam Corrie Head Married Male 46 1805 Farmer 70 Arable 530 Moor Kirkcudbrightshire, Isabella Corrie Wife Married Female 41 1810 Farmer Wife Dunscore, Dumfriesshire, William Corrie Son Unmarried Male 3 1848 Farmer Son Holywood, Dumfriesshire, Mary Corrie Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1850 Farmer Daug New Abbey, Kirkcudbrightshire, Thomas Smith Servant Unmarried Male 20 1831 Servant Farm Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, John Walker Servant Unmarried Male 16 1835 Servant Farm Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire, Mary Caven Visitor Unmarried Female 17 1834 Visitor Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Jane Dickson Visitor Widow Female 44 1807 Visitor Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1861 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Barbeth House, New Abbey, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Adam Carrie Head Married Male 56 1805 Farmer Of 250 Acres Employing 2 Lab Kirkcudbrightshire, Isabella Carrie Wife Married Female 50 1811 Farmer's Wife Dunscore, Dumfriesshire, William Carrie Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Farmer's Son Hollywood, Dumfriesshire, Mary Carrie Daughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar New Abbey, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Jane Carrie Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar New Abbey, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland John Welsh Servant Unmarried Male 25 1836 Shepherd Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire, Elizabeth Cook Servant Unmarried Female 21 1840 Domestic Servant Tynron, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Patrick Hanley Visitor Widower Male 63 1798 - Ireland
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Gritty
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12 Apr 2015 17:42 |
Adam Corrie (pig/ peat dealer) marries Mary Burns- they have daughter, Mary in 1819.
The theory is that daughter Mary has illegitimate son, Adam, who lives with her father as his son (but we know from death cert that it is his grandson).
The same Adam (pig/ peat dealer) marries Isabella Briggs in 1848. He dies in 1867- Adam, grandson is present at death.
Adam's daughter Mary goes on to marry James Wells- and has children James and Mary, and dies in 1883- parents listed as Adam Currie, pig dealer, and Mary (maiden surname Burns). Mary's daughter, Mary Currie is present at death.
Mary's daughter, Mary Wells, marries William Currie in 1874. William is the son of Adam Currie (farmer), and Isabella Grierson -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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carol
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12 Apr 2015 15:52 |
its an old style marriage cert and just says labourer after his name..was thinking more of the Grierson marriage being red herring...but am having change of heart....on the 1851 census the adam currie listed as peat dealer and his wife Isabella living in isle of man road Dumfries..a name not used here for many years...have an adam in their household the correct age..10..listed as adams son...but they did not marry till well after his birth year, so maybe his son, but not isabellas?....because all these curries actually lived in very close proximity to each other in Dumfries...very close....am hoping theres not a "closer" connection :-0...we are really grateful for all your assistance
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Gritty
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12 Apr 2015 15:18 |
Not sure what you mean about discounting marriages? The Adam Corrie/ Isabella Briggs marriage should not be discounted! The Currie/ Corrie variation is normal within older records. Isabella Briggs was Adam's second wife.
I haven't had a chance to have a look at any info for Mary yet - but if you look at the 1861 census that I posted above- Adam, is at the same address as Mary Wells and her children.- So it is likely you are on the right track. On Mary's marriage to James Wells does it list her father as Adam- pig dealer, or peat dealer?
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carol
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12 Apr 2015 13:07 |
hi again...have been on pc all morning trying catch up on your info...don't kow if I am making it more confusing for myself...I have found a mary corrie(currie) daughter of the adam and mary burns marriage....and she was born in 1819 as you had found...I think she went on to marry james wells on 27/1/1843,,,and they had a daughter mary wells in 1846....she then married (unbelievably if I am right) William currie!!,,,,son of the adam currie and Isabella GRIERSON marriage...I think totally different families though!!!....would love to hear if you think I am correct!!... :-S
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carol
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12 Apr 2015 11:53 |
fyi...we had found two marriages which we had wrongly, I now think. discounted..adam currie and Isabella Grierson 29/1/1846 in holywood Dumfries..and adam and Isabella briggs in Dumfries 7/3/1848...its complicated by a misspelling of CURRIE as CORRIE which we have had trouble with in other searches...the briggs marriage is the one we have as corrie on the cert.....Grierson one is currie :-S
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carol
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12 Apr 2015 11:26 |
my goodness...how impressive is that!!!....we have been round and round in circles re adam born c 1840....but then we are amateurs and beginners at this...we use scotlands people site for researching most things and have been lucky to find all the things we have...only been doing it for 2/3weeks so far...the search will continue! :-)
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Gritty
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12 Apr 2015 10:59 |
Adam snr's first marriage was likely to be to Mary Burns (haven't found date for it yet), children of this marriage (all born Dumfries) were:
MARY 1819<<<<<<<<<<<< possible mother of Adam born c1840?? Janet 1824 Agnes 1826 (Nancy is a form of Agnes) John 1828 John-Ann 1830 (female)
Agnes married John Kerr in 1863- listing her father as Adam Corrie, Pig dealer, and Mary (maiden surname Burns)- deceased
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Gritty
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12 Apr 2015 08:28 |
Adam (born 1801) was married previously. Adam jnr may have been his daughter's illegitimate child?
This appears to be Adam snr in 1861:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Welling, St Michaels, Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Adam Corrie Head Married Male 64 1797 Pig Dealer Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Isabella Corrie Wife Married Female 60 1801 - Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Agness Corrie Grand Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isabella dies later in 1861- her parents are listed as surname Briggs (no forenames) and she is listed as married to Adam Corrie, peat dealer. Adam (husband was present at death)
Adam dies in 1867- listed as pig dealer, widower of Elizabeth Briggs. Adam Corrie, GRANDSON, is listed as present at death. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
marriage for Adam and Isabella -not until 1848, but note he is listed as widower.
First name(s) Adam Last name Corrie Marriage year 1848 Marriage date 07 Mar 1848 Marriage place Dumfries,Dumfries,Scotland Spouse's first name(s) Isabella Spouse's last name Briggs Place Dumfries County Dumfriesshire Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
From image: Adam Corrie, Peat Monger & Pig Dealer, Widr, to Isabella Briggs -------------------------------------------------------
The fact that Adam Corrie, GRANDSON is listed as present at death of Adam snr, and that Adam Senr was a widower when he married Isabella Briggs, would make me concentrate my efforts on finding any possible children of Adam snr. to see if he has a daughter Mary.
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carol
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11 Apr 2015 22:40 |
hi...what a lot of work....there are so many adam curries in our family its a bit of a nightmare...we had looked at the adam/Isabella one...but were put off by the fact that adam junior is on as their son....and on both the death and marriage certs we have his mothers name is mary...but with no father :-S..death def 21/01/1884 and age stated 43
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Gritty
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11 Apr 2015 22:08 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cambletown, Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Adam Corrie Male 40 1801 Dumfriesshire, Scotland Bell Corrie Female 35 1806 Dumfriesshire, Scotland Jannet Corrie Female 15 1826 Dumfriesshire, Scotland Nancy Corrie Female 9 1832 Dumfriesshire, Scotland John Corrie Male 13 1828 Dumfriesshire, Scotland Adam Corrie Male 1 1840 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Possibly second marriage for Adam (b1801)- will take a look tomorrow
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Gritty
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11 Apr 2015 21:48 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Isle of Man, Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Adam Currie Head Married Male 50 1801 Peat Dealer Dumfriesshire, Scotland Isabella Currie Wife Married Female 42 1809 - - Adam Currie Son - Male 10 1841 - England Janet Marley Servant - Female 11 1840 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland William Kennedy Servant Unmarried Male 17 1834 Servant Dumfriesshire, John McGie Visitor Unmarried Male 25 1826 Servant Dumfriesshire, Scotland --------------------------------------------------------------------
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Gateside, St Michaels, Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Mary Wells Head Widow Female 40 1821 Labourer Dumfriesshire, Scotland Mary Wells Daughter - Female 15 1846 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland John Wells Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Joseph Johnstone Head Married Male 50 1811 Grain Dealer Dumfriesshire, Scotland Martha Johnstone Wife Married Female 47 1814 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland William J Johnstone Son Unmarried Male 22 1839 Grocer Dumfriesshire, Scotland Robert W Johnstone Son Unmarried Male 20 1841 Mason Dumfriesshire, Scotland David Johnstone Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Ironmonger Tinwald, Dumfriesshire, Thomas Johnston Son - Male 13 1848 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland Janet Johnston Daughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Margaret Johnston Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Martha Johnston Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Joseph Johnston Son - Male 3 1858 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland James Johnston Son - Male 2 1859 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland Mary Ann Wright Visitor Unmarried Female 21 1840 Waiter England Adam Corrie Servant Unmarried Male 21 1840 Servant Dumfriesshire, Scotland Catherine Gracie Servant Unmarried Female 16 1845 Servant Irongray, Kirkcudbrightshire,
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carol
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11 Apr 2015 19:30 |
thanks to all the replies so far re adam currie/grace grindall.....the descendant side is pretty well covered....more the adam currie ancestor side now we need to find
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Gritty
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11 Apr 2015 17:32 |
Adam senior died 1884 in Dumfries
Grace's grandaughter, Susan Currie (b1888), was the illegitimate daughter of Margaret Currie. Margaret later married John Graham Curragh, and Susan married David Johnston.
Elizabeth married Robert Black in 1894 Carnbee Fife
John Grindall Currie married Emma J A Crawford. John died 1940 Glasgow
Adam (jnr) married Nicholas Ritchie in 1903 Dumfries
Jane married Robert Hastings in 1904 Dumfries
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Gritty
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11 Apr 2015 17:26 |
Elizabeth married Robert Black- here she is in 1901 with sister, Grace:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Arncroach, Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
Robert Black Head Married Male 28 1873 Grocer Shopkeeper Cameron, Fife, Scotland Elizabeth Black Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland James Black Son - Male 5 1896 Scholar Pittenweem, Fife, Scotland Grace Currie Sister-In-Law Single Female 28 1873 Cook (Domestic) Dumfriesshire,
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Gritty
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11 Apr 2015 17:23 |
Carol- add your replies in the box at the bottom of the page. You'll get more help that way :-)
Message from Carol:
"hi...yes we are looking to see if we can find any living relatives of adam and grace(grindall)....we think there was a marriage in 1959 in carnbee fife between Elizabeth currie Christie nee black and Gordon powell but that is as far as we have managed so far...and also a marriage of john curragh Johnston(his mother was susan Johnston nee currie) and Isabella m w marshall in elgin in 1952...again that's us stuck a bit!!"
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Jacqueline
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11 Apr 2015 08:59 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Gass Town Green, Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Grace Currie Head Widow Female 48 1843 - Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Transcription Anny Currie Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1869 - Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Transcription Jane Currie Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1878 Scholar Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Transcription Janet Currie Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Transcription John Currie Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Transcription William Currie Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Transcription Susan Currie Granddaughter - Female 2 1889 - Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
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