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Ummm,
Joseph 's father was John William Murphy, Joseph died of TB - would the younger
Daughters be with grandparents ? John & Emma Murphy.
Seems like they had A pretty poverty stricken existence.
Thankyou :-D :-D :-D

Joseph's parents 1891:

1891
John William Murphy
[John Willian Murphy]
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Murphy
Gender: Male
Where born: Const Place, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub registration district: West Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 431
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
John William Murphy 62
Emma Murphy 53
Elizabeth Murphy 36
Minne Maria Murphy 26
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1901- no sign of Minnie or Rosa

1901
Emma Murphy Head Widow Female 72 1829 - Hoxton, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Jane Murphy Daughter Single Female 45 1856 Military Machinest Westminster, Middlesex, England
Minnie Maria Murphy Daughter Single Female 37 1864 Military Tailoress Westminster, Middlesex,
Street Balfern Street
Parish Battersea
City -Country England
County London
Municipal ward Church
Registration district Wandsworth
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 450
Folio 172
Page 55
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Possible for Rosa in 1901 :(

Name: Rose Murphy
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Pauper Inmate (Pauper)
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wandsworth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Penge
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: North Surrey District School
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 652
Folio: 167
Page Number: 22
Household schedule number: 1

I have to go out- will try and look later (if no-one else has), when I'm less rushed

Thankyou so much.
Marilyn :-D

Found William Frederick Murphy (address is where mother is living in 1911 :-D

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1918

Name: Wm Frederick Murphy
Birth Date: abt 1881
Age: 37
Occupation: Soldier
Address going to: Lainson Street, Wandsworth
Country of last permanent residence: Nigeria
Port of Departure: Africa
Arrival Date: 22 Jun 1918
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Mandingo
Shipping line: Elder Dempster Lines Ltd
Official Number: 140664
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William's early military record, give a previous address as 28 Hibbert Street (Where his Mum was living in 1901):

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name MURPHY
Birth year 1882
Birth parish BATTERSEA
Birth town LONDON
Birth county SURREY
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 5902
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1899
Attestation Day 12
Attestation Month 1
Attestation age years 17
Attestation age months 11
Attestation Corps 7TH BN KING'S ROYAL RIFLES
Attestation service number 5902
Series militia service records 1806-1915
Box 964
Box Record Number 304
Current Address: 14 Upper Marsh, Lambeth
Previous Address: 28 Hibbert St, Battesea
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-191
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Emma's marriage (previously mentioned by Jacqueline)

Name: Emma Rhoda Murphy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Age: 24
Spouse: Harry Hayes
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Jun 1911
Parish: St Michael and All Angels, Southfields
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Joseph William Murphy
Spouse Father: John Henry Hayes
Register Type: Parish Register
Address for both was 10 Laison Street, Wandsworth.
Looks like there were three witnesses: Henry Reed, Harry Holmes and Rosalin Murphy,

Rosa signs as Rosalin when she's a witness at Emma's marriage- she also marries as Rosalin:

Name: Rosalin Murphy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Age: 23
Spouse: Jack Somerset Appleton
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Dec 1915
Parish: St Michael and All Angels, Southfields
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Joseph William Murphy
Spouse Father: Saul Somerset Appleton
Register Type: Parish Register
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Jack dies in 1926:

Name: Jack S Appleton
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Dec 1926
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 203
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And Rosalin remarries in 1930:

First name(s) ROSALIN
Last name APPLETON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1930
ROSALIN APPLETON married
EDWARD CONNORTON
Spouse's last name CONNORTON
District FULHAM
County London
Volume 1A
Page 831
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
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Rosalin/ Rosa dies in 1949

Name: Rosalin Connorton
Birth Date: abt 1892
Date of Registration: Dec 1949
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Battersea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 48

1926 Electoral Register

10 Lainson Street. Southfield, S.W 18

Mary Murphy (Mrs)
Ernest William Jeffery
Alice Jeffery
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British Army Service Records 1914-1920
First name(s) Ernest William
Last name Jeffery
Service number 1687
Regiment London Regiment
Unit / Battalion 60th London Divisional
Series WO 364
Next of Kin: Mrs A M Jeffery (wife) of 10 Lainson Street, Southfields
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1937 Electoral Register:

10 Lainson Street, Southfield

Minnie Murphy
Ernest William Jeffery
Alice Maud Jeffery

The Birch family came from the West Wycombe Buckinghamshire district - the grandmother I think was Eluzabeth Bradbury/Birch , maybe the girls are with her ?

I think Rose is Rosalyn, maybe there is another family called Mary & Joseph too.

No luck with any descendents of the Garwood or Hayes families.

Thanks Gritty,

Didn't see above info :-D :-D :-D :-D

This is so exciting, filling in so many gaps :-D :-D <3

Thankyou so much
Marilyn.

Child of Emma & Harry Hayes:

Birth:
Name: Roland G L Hayes
Mother's Maiden Name: Murphy
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1337
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In 1916 (age 15) he leaves England- going to Canada. His nearest relative is listed as a Mr Hayes of Pulborough Road, Southfields. When I checked this address in the electoral Register, Harry Hayes was living there.

Passenger list:
Name: Roland G L Hayes
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Birth Year: abt 1916
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 5 Apr 1931
Vessel: Laurentic
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Nearest relative: Mr Hayes Pulborough Rd, Southfields
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1915 Electoral register:
Harry Hayes 74 Pulborough Road

1928 Electoral register:
74 Pulborough Road, Southfields
Harry Hayes
Emma Rhoda Hayes
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Emma's son Roland, returns to UK for a time in 1932:

Passenger List:
Name: Roland G Hayes
Birth Date: abt 1914
Age: 18
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 5 Dec 1932
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Intended address: 74 Pulborough Road
Ship Name: Montrose
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 145919
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And in 1939 he's listed on the electoral register:

1939 Electoral Register
74 Pulborough Road, Southfields
Harry Hayes
Emma Rhoda Hayes
Dorothy Marjorie Hayes
Roland Lee Garwood Hayes

Harry and Emma are still at 74 Pulborough Road in 1950

Emma R still living there in 1961 -no Harry with her, but a Dorothy G Bushby also residing.
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Just in case it's related, in 1913 a Douglas William Vergette was listed at 74 Pulborough Road (before Harry and Emma moved in)

and just to confirm info above, this is Harry Hayes Service record- 2 children, Dorothy and Roland:

Name: Harry Hayes
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1876
Age at Enlistment: 39
Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1911
Marriage Place: St Michaels Southfields Wandsworth
Residence Place: 74 Pubborough Rd, South Field SW
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 134723
Regiment Name: Royal Army Medical Corps
Number of Images: 18
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Other Records: Search for 'Harry Hayes' in other WWI collections

Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Harry Hayes Self (Head)
Emma Rhoda Spouse
Dorothy Marjorie Hayes Child born 17 August 1913
Roland Garwood Lee Hayes Child born 1st May 1915
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And this is possible marriage for Roland:

Name: Roland G L Hayes
Spouse : Amy E Flooks
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1943
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 32

Roland does appear to travel around quite a bit.
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Royal Artillery attestations 1883-1942
First name(s) Roland Garwood Lee
Last name Hayes
Service number 828956
Former service number -
Attestation year 1933
Record set Royal Artillery attestations 1883-1942
Category Military, armed forces & conflict

Roland and his wife, Amy, had three children born Southampton :-D

Marilyn

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Fabulous help Thankyou sooooo much - will get on Ancestry.

Garwood ? This is the married name of Louisa ?? Is it not ?

Can I ask are you and gritty in England ?

Great Christmas presents :-D <3 :-D

Morning Marilyn- Happy Christmas

Yes, Louisa married William Samuel Garwood- original certificate is on Ancestry. Her sister Emma was a witness to the marriage, so I imagine they were close.

Which of the 8 children of Mary and Joseph are you descended from- is it Albert?

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The West Australian Tuesday 25 March 1952

MURPHY: On March 23, 1952, at Home of Peace, Albert Henry. loving husband of Susannah. loved father of George. William, Albert, Kathleen (Mrs. Daniels), Mary (Mrs. Perry). Laurel, Joe, May (Mrs. Wood). Donald, Allan, Margery, Gordon and Kerry: aged 63 years.
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Also worth noting- in your earlier post you mention that Mary's (Birch) mother is Elizabeth Bradbury. I haven't had time to look into it, but other trees on ancestry suggest her parents were Joseph Birch and Ellen Munday- so that might be worth checking.

I'm in England. I may not be around much the next couple of days- we have a mad house of family over for Christmas, but will check back when I can.

Good luck with your searching, and have a lovely day.

Merry Christmas toooo, ours is just coming to an end.

Yes I'm descended from Albert Henry (decd when I was one) my dad was
His 3rd born Albert Henry also.

Blessings to you and yours,
Marilyn x

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