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William T McColgan born Iskaheen Donegal May 1871

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John Anthony

John Anthony Report 1 Oct 2014 11:53

William was my grandfather John's brother and the information I have is that he joined the British Army and after he left the army he ended up living in Yorkshire. I believe he married in 1899 to Kathleen Belinda Murphy and had a family of possibly 3 boys and 2 girls. I am trying to do my family tree and wondered if any of his descendants are still alive ?

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Oct 2014 15:14

Just for ref

1901 Scotland Census about Kathleen Belinda Mccolgan
Name: Kathleen Belinda Mccolgan
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William Mccolgan
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland, quam co
Registration Number: 420
Registration district: Cupar
Civil Parish: Cupar
Town: Cupar
County: Fife
Address: Artillary Barracks
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 20
LINE: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_133
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mccolgan 30
Kathleen Belinda Mccolgan 23
William John Mccolgan 9 Month

1911 England Census about Kathleen B McColgan
Name: Kathleen B McColgan
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bally
Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 97 Sturgeon Road, Walworth, London S E
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 12
Estimated Marriage Year: 1899
Occupation: HOUSE KEEPING
Registration district: Southwark
Registration District Number: 23
Sub-registration district: Newington South
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 1820
Household Members:
Name Age
William McColgan 40 (ARMY PENSIONER VET CORPS)
Kathleen B McColgan 33
Gerald E McColgan 8 ( born Fife
Patrick H McColgan 7 ( Fife
William T McColgan 1 ( woolwich)

4 children born 1 had died.

Have you searched trees on here John?

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Oct 2014 15:40

Might be a relative named as informant on death cert?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about William T McColgan
Name: William T McColgan
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Sep 1936
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 151

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Oct 2014 15:54

There is a will that appears to match that death,
Name: William McColgan
Probate Date: 2 Nov 1936
Death Date: 14 Sep 1936
Death Place: Bradford, West Yorkshire, England
Registry: London, England
probate to John William McColgan Insurance agent.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Kathleen Blendia McColgan
Name: Kathleen Blendia McColgan
Probate Date: 12 Apr 1935
Death Date: 22 Feb 1935
Death Place: Bradford, West Yorkshire, England
Registry: Wakefield

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Oct 2014 16:10

Daughter?

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
MCCOLGAN Kathleen M B Murphy Bradford 9b 162

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Oct 2014 16:15

?
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Kathleen McColgan
Name: Kathleen McColgan
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1914
Date of Registration: Mar 1971
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Hampstead
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5b
Page: 2036

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Oct 2014 16:30

John Anthony....Do you have William Ts family history...? Dozens of Mc Colgan's still in the Iskaheen area.....

John Anthony

John Anthony Report 7 Oct 2014 21:42

Rambling Rose. Thank you for the information on William and wife Kathleen most of which I had previously found. The info on possible daughter Kathleen will be worth following up

Eringobragh1916 I am related to some of the McColgans in Iskaheen but all the older ones who might have been able to help have passed.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Oct 2014 22:20

John Anthony...Do you have Williams Service Record....?

William and Kathleen also had another child named William John b 7/7/1900 d.20/11/103
Gerald was Gerald Edward "O'Neill" McColgan b 13.07.02
Patrick Hugh b 8.4.04
William John b 11.9.09

John Anthony

John Anthony Report 22 Oct 2014 17:42

Eringobragh I knew he was in the army and I think he was a CSM when he retired from the army. That appears to have been sometime between the 1901 Census when he was stiil in the army and the 1911 Census when he was retired.I don't have his Service Record. Thanks for the info on the children. I got some from the two Censuses and assumed the first William had died as he was missing from the 1911 Census.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Oct 2014 18:52

Name: Kathleen Blendia McColgan
Probate Date: 12 Apr 1935
Death Date: 22 Feb 1935
Death Place: Bradford, West Yorkshire, England
Registry: Wakefield

Kathleen Blendia McColgan of 33 Sloan Street Ripley Villie Bradford (wife of William McColgan) died at St. Luke's Hospital, Bradford. Probate to Robert Henry Bottomley, Grocer and Norman Varley, Grocer Traveller. Effects £691. 18s. 2d.

John Anthony

John Anthony Report 21 Nov 2015 11:20

Eringobragh;

On 7 October 2014 you said that William had a son Gerald Edward O'Neill.Can you confirm the last of these names, please ? The reason is that I am in contact with William T's granddaughter and she traced a death for a Gerald Edward O'Neil McColgan but with an alleged age of 64 at his death in 1960 which suggests he was born in 1896 and not 1902/03 as per our Gerald. But it would be a heck of a co-incidence to have two men with these exact names
I've obtained a lot of info on William T including his marriage cert, his army history,where he went after he left the army in 1910.

Potty

Potty Report 23 Nov 2015 13:03

Could this be Gerald? listed as a member of the British Gendarmerie, going to Palestine; last UK address: RAF Halton.


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name:Mr G E O McColgan
Gender:Male
Age:22
Birth Date:abt 1901
Departure Date:5 Jun 1923
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Destination Port:Port Said, Egypt
Ship Name:London
Shipping line:City Line
Official Number:124162
Master:Sir Jas R Rac

Potty

Potty Report 23 Nov 2015 13:55

This could be him coming back to England, but the age is a couple of years out: last place of residence: Palestine; Occupation: Independent; Address in UK: 15 Buckingham Palace Rd


Name:Gerald McColgan
Birth Date:abt 1898
Age:26
Port of Departure:Yokohama, Japan
Arrival Date:16 Dec 1924
Port of Arrival:London, England
Ports of Voyage:Plymouth
Ship Name:Malwa
Shipping line:Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number:127543

Potty

Potty Report 23 Nov 2015 14:07

Possible for him in 1960 - address is actually 7St Stephen's Gardens, Twickenham; 5 others at same address, but no other McColgans:


Name:
Gerald E McColgan

Year:1960
County or Borough:Twickenham
Ward or Division/Constituency:Twickenham East
Street address:7 The Lodge
Reference Number:MR/PER/C/1060


There are other Electoral Roll entries for him. Will check them out for more info.

Potty

Potty Report 23 Nov 2015 14:26

1933 to 1935 living 108 Kenilworth Court Putney with a Josephine Mabel McColgan:


Name:Gerald Edward McColgan
Year:1934
County or Borough:Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency:Putney and Streatham
Street address:108 Kenilworth Court

Potty

Potty Report 23 Nov 2015 14:49

Possible marriage for Gerald:

Name:Gerald A E O McColgan
Spouse Surname:Townsend
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district:St Giles
Inferred County:Middlesex
Volume Number:1b
Page Number:1446


Name:Mabel Townsend
Spouse Surname:Mccolgan
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district:St Giles
Inferred County:Middlesex
Volume Number:1b
Page Number:1446

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 24 Nov 2015 20:29

John Anthony...I will have a check back and verify the info I gave you last October...This may help but not where I originally got it....will have to delve a little deeper..!!




Gerald E On Mccolgan

England and Wales Census, 1911

Name Gerald E On Mccolgan
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County London
Parish St Mary Newington
Sub-District Newington South
Registration District Southwark
Gender Male
Age 8
Birthplace Cupas, Fife
Record Type Household

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 24 Nov 2015 22:32

John Anthony...If you have his Service Records check the details of family out on that..Given I have listed his date of Birth I must have gotten it from them...Did I not send you it...??

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 25 Nov 2015 07:58

GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Transcription

First name(s) GERALD
Last name MCCOLGAN
Year range 1902
Place CUPAR
Country SCOTLAND
Regiment Royal Artillery
Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)
Volume 1436
Page 32
Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005
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And birth was registered in Scotland:

1902 MCCOLGAN GERALD EDWARD O Male CUPAR /FIFE 420/00 0062
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I'm wondering if Gerald and Mabel divorced- if it's the correct Mabel she appears to be living alone on the 1939 register- followed by a marriage in 1940.

I think this is Gerald living alone on the 1939 register (it fits with the address on the London Electoral register):

McColgan Household Wandsworth, London, England
8A Kenilworth Court
~??? McColgan 1901
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And this is Mabel (her later married name also registered):

Coupland (McColgan) Household Twickenham M.B., Middlesex, England
Mabel Coupland (McColgan) 1903