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Henry and Annies marriage


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Henry George Taylor
Name:
Henry George Taylor
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1868
Age:
30
Spouse Name:
Annie Lane Norton
Spouse Age:
31
Record Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
26 Jun 1898
Parish:
Islington St Mary
Borough:
Islington
Father Name:
Henry Taylor >>>>Sewer man
Spouse Father:
Michael Rutherford >>>Engineer
Register Type:
Parish Register

Annie was a widow

If Henry and Annie Taylor were her aunt and uncle they are not Irish if the correct 1911 census has been posted.

Have you considered applying for their marriage certificate for information on his Father, to check further back?

Why Ireland? Cornelius isn't an Irish name....that's of course if it was her fathers name? and not one she made up

Where is her birth registration as it wasn't May Rosina Taylor unless she wasn't born in this country?

Shirley, and Patchem and Jax
Many thanks for all the above.

My husband never knew about most of his family, being the youngest child,(born 1933) so he never met Cornelius, grandfather. On her marriage cert. May never put that her father was deceased.

I can confirm that at the time of her marriage - May was living at 7 Pearcroft Rd, E17, with a Henry and Annie Taylor. And to make things more confusing in 1910 another Taylor, Herbert, resided at May Cottage, 7 Pearcroft Rd, but with no connection as far as I can see.

GR Anthony Adolphe told me he thought Cornelius Taylor could have come over from Ireland with a name like that.
I have tried this line too.

All the other Cornelius' in Census 1901 and 1911, I have gone through.

I think the only person who may know the answer is Harold's son, Ian.

I thank you all for your kind help and work, but feel I mustn't take up any more of your time. Believe me if I do solve the mystery, I will be in touch.
Kind regards
Ruth

Doesn't have May with them in 1911

Name: Henry George Taylor
Age in 1911: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Clapham, London, England
Civil Parish: Oakham
County/Island: Rutland
Country: England
Street address: 2 Cold Overton Rd Oakham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Oakham
Registration District Number: 409
Sub-registration district: Oakham
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 19385
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry George Taylor 44
Annie Taylor 42
Rose Cecilia Taylor 12
Henry George Taylor 11
Hy Ethel Taylor 5
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 19385.

Married 13 years 3 children born

Marriages Jun 1898
Norton Annie Lane Islington 1b 537
Taylor Henry George Islington 1b 537

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1901 census
Name: Henry G Taylor
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Annie Taylor
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Kennington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 80 church street

Occupation:navvy

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington First
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 413
Folio: 81
Page Number: 45
Household schedule number: 362
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry G Taylor 33
Annie Taylor 33
Rose C Taylor 2
Henry G Taylor 1
Charles R Norton 16 son
Annie R Norton 11 daughter.

Parents in 1901 with some family still at home

1901 England Census about Cornelius Taylor
Name: Cornelius Taylor
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Kate Taylor
Birth Place: Little Wilbraham, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Wilbraham
Ecclesiastical parish: Little Wilbraham St John the Evangelist
Town: Little Wilbraham
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address: church street

Occupation:general grocer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chesterton
Sub-registration district: Fulbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1526
Folio: 146
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Cornelius Taylor 66
Kate Taylor 62
Alice Taylor 43
Alfred H Taylor 24
Thomas W Taylor 22

Still in Cambridgshire in 1881

1881 England Census about Cornelius W. Taylor
Name: Cornelius W. Taylor
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Cornelius Taylor
Mother: Catherine S. Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Plastow, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Lt Wilbraham
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address: Main Street
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Assistant Miller (Corn)
Registration district: Chesterton
Sub-registration district: Fulbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1661
Folio: 120
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Cornelius Taylor 46
Catherine S. Taylor 42
Alice Taylor 23
Cornelius W. Taylor 17
Henry G. Taylor 12
Frederick C. Taylor 6
Alfred H. Taylor 4
Thomas W. Taylor 2
Elizabeth Taylor 87 mother !

He has a brother Henry !
1871 census
Name: Cornelius W Taylor
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Cornelius Taylor
Mother's name: Kate Taylor
Gender: Male
Where born: Plaistow, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Little Wilbraham
Town: Little Wilbraham
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chesterton
Sub-registration district: Fulbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 1582
Folio: 9
Page Number: 9
Address Church street
Household Members:
Name Age
Cornelius Taylor 36 occ miller employing 1 man born Little Wilbraham Cambs
Kate Taylor 32
Alice Taylor 13
Emma Taylor 11
Cornelius W Taylor 7
Henry G Taylor 2

Could this be cornelius ?

Births Mar 1864
TAYLOR Cornelius William W Ham 4a 40

So was it Henry and Annie that May lived with?

On your prior searches for her on the ancestry message boards you have put that you believe she was brought up by an aunt and uncle.

Do you know who these people were?

Or is this the relevant family:

'Trying to find details of a Henry George Taylor, born Bow, approx. 1870, who had an older brother Cornelius, born 1865.

Henry was living with an Annie at 7 Pearcroft Road, Leytonstone (then Essex) in 1918. If anyone could help me with either Henry or Cornelius' details, I would be grateful.'

Did those prior searches find her in 1901 or 1911, and are you convinced Cornelius and Henry are correct?

With the name 'Cornelius' and 'engineer', I thought of a birth overseas, or anywhere in the country, when you seem convinced she was born locally.

As has been stated above, any details can be wrong, or names added, or incorrectly remembered, including her date and year of birth and father's names.

What does your husband know of his grandfather Cornelius - where and when did he die?

I am not doubting what you have been told.....but as I said my grandfather took 3 years off his age and as far as we were aware my grandmother didn't know any different.
Also there are no May Rosina's born at that time.....so did she just add the middle name because she liked it...or maybe she thought that was her name? as I said my grandmother added two completly different names on her marriage cert.....not that she was trying to hide anything, she just thought they were her names until she applied for a birth cert many years later to obtain a passport

Shirley, I have May Rosina Taylor definitely on Marriage Cert. with father's name as Cornelius Taylor, engineer.

Jax, May did tell me personally that there was 9 yrs difference between her and her husband, Albert Edward, as Albert got a divorce from an Annie Charles in 1915. May was 21 years and Albert was 30 years on Marriage cert 23/3/1918.

You must admit it's rather an unusual name to give - Cornelius Taylor, as her father.

Also May's first daughter, was given the names Gladys May Rosina. Born 1920.

I've even tried to trace the witnesses at May and Albert's wedding to see if that could give me some clues. They were J H Taplin and M. Taplin. But I suppose they could have been pulled off the street to act as witnesses.

Thanks for your time and interest, much appreciated.
Ruth

As I said my grandfather took 3 years off when he married so his age on his death cert is out by 3 years as no one knew it was wrong

So her death cert gives a birth date

First name(s) MAY ROSINA
Last name SAUNDERS
Gender Female
Birth day 13
Birth month 10
Birth year 1897
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1982
District BRENTWOOD
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 9
Page 1568
Entry number -
DOR -
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials

she isnt May Rosina on the marriage cert she is May M . what did the M stand for ??

I see that marriage reg says her name was May M does it say Rosina on the cert?

Trouble with marriage certs you could tell lies

My gt grandmother made up a fathers name

Grandmother said her middle names were Gertrude Esmerelda ....when it was infact just Mary

Grandfather took 3 years off his age

How about witness's could they be from her side of the family?

Thanks Shirley and Jax for your immediate help. Didn't expect replies so quick. I am trying to solve the mystery for my husband Douglas Saunders of why we cannot find a birth cert. for his mother.

I have May's marriage cert. to Albert Edward Saunders, 23/3/1918, which gives her father as Cornelius Taylor, an engineer, also death cert of May Rosina, 29th June 1982. This was certified by Harold Percy Saunders, May's eldest son.
who was reg. Dec 1918. I do know that Harold had a son, Ian R. born approx. 1955/6. I did speak to Ian in 2002 when his father died and asked him if he would share any info. he might find from his father's papers. But this never materialised.
Ian did live in Essex at that time and was married to Janet.

Many thanks for your help. I've been trying since 2000 to find May's birth certificate. ONS cannot find her and 1901 and 1911 Census doesn't show her.

Ruth Saunders (Lapish