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If Margaret subsequently got married, they may be under the husbands name on later census - my gran got married in her birth name, but on the census she was recorded under the stepfather's name. Just a thought.

Let us know if you come up with anything on FMP for the address, I don't have a sub for that site.

thanks Flip I will try FMP

I assume the birth certificate does not give a previous name for the mother? - so it looks like she was unmarried. Does it give an address, maybe someone with FMP could do a 1871 address look-up to see who was living there

Hi, I had seen this on the marriage certificate, but it doesn't match the info given by family. It was assumed that he had 'pretended' to have a deceased father, no-one alive to confirm or deny. Still doesn't find him in 1881 and 1891. :-(
I have bought a birth cert for John Rourke 14.06.1872 Greengate Salford, mother only named as Margaret Rourke, no father mentioned, but I cannot prove this is right. T

From Lancs opc - deceased father?:

Marriage: 23 Mar 1895 St Bartholomew, Salford, Lancs.
John Rourke - 23 Tram Driver Bachelor of 2 Crowther St.
Margaret Skelton - 19 Cap Finisher Spinster of 2 Crowther St.
Groom's Father: John Rourke, (deceased), Joiner
Bride's Father: John Skelton, Moulder
Witness: William Owen; Mary Owen
Married by Banns by: G. W. Petherick
Register: Marriages 1894 - 1897, Page 34, Entry 68
Source: LDS Film 1786464

Have you checked this birth, registered Greengate, Salford according to Lancashire bmd


Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
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Rourke John Salford 8d 58

I understand how this works now, thanks. I have been unable to find the birth of John Rourke 1872 Salford. I have the marriage to Margaret Jane Skelton, I have him in the census from 1901 and 1911 but not before. Family story is that he was the illegitimate son of a young Irish woman who came to Salford/Manchester from Ireland. :-) regards Maureen

It saves time if you tell us what you know when you first ask.............

Hi Reggie, Many thanks for the information, I do have these details, but thanks for confirming that I am on the right track. I am descended from John 1896 and have met all but two of the surviving siblings. I will try on contact the grandchildren of the original children. :-) regards Maureen

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

SKELTON John WINSKELL Jane Preston, St John Preston 229/27/288

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SKELTON Mary Elizabeth Preston Preston WINSKILL PRES/169/65

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SKELTON William Preston Preston WINSKELL PRES/198/92

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SKELTON Ann Preston Preston WINSKELL PRES/215/37

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SKELTON Margaret Jane Preston Preston WINSKELL PRES/228/59

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1877
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SKELTON Robert Preston Preston WINSKELL PRES/237/72

1891 census


Person: SKELTON, Maggie Address: 43, Doddington Street, Salford

SKELTON, John Head Married M 44 1847 Iron Moulder
Stockton on Tees VIEW
SKELTON, Jane Wife Married F 45 1846 Dress Maker
Stockton on Tees VIEW
SKELTON, William Son Single M 19 1872 Pattern Card Maker
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1874 Book Binder
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, Maggie Daughter Single F 15 1876 General Servant
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, Robert Son M 13 1878
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, Newton Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Stockton on Tees VIEW
SKELTON, John Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, Joseph Son M 3 1888
Salford, Lancashire VIEW

1881 census


Person: SKELTON, Margaret Address: 51, Dale St, Ulverston


SKELTON, John Head Married M 35 1846 Moulder Iron
Stockton, Durham VIEW
SKELTON, Jane Wife Married F 35 1846
Penrith, Cumberland VIEW
SKELTON, Mary Daughter Single F 14 1867 Serv
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, William Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, Annie Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, Margaret Daughter Single F 4 1877
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, Robert Son Single M 2 1879
Stockton, Yorkshire VIEW
SKELTON, Newton Son Single M 1 1880
Stockton, Yorkshire

1901 census

Person: ROURKE, Douglas Address: 27, Martha Street, Salford

ROURKE, John Head Married M 28 1873 Greengrocer
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
ROURKE, Margaret Wife Married F 25 1876
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
ROURKE, John Son M 6 1895
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
ROURKE, Douglas Son M 2 1899
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
ROURKE, Lily Daughter F 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
SKELTON, Jane Mother-In-Law Married F 57 1844 House & Shop Assistant
Scotland

Death
Name: NUTTALL, Gladys
Registration district: Salford
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1988
Month of registration: February
Date of Birth:27 July 1903
Volume no: 39
Page no: 1048
Reg no: 288

Death

Name: MAGEE, Allanah
Registration district: Salford
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1980
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth:6 March 1905
Volume no: 39
Page no: 0828

Death

Name: ROURKE, Clifford
Registration district: Halifax
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1964
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death:56
Volume no: 2B
Page no: 483

Death

Name: ROURKE, Douglas
Registration district: Blackpool & Fylde
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1974
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Date of Birth:15 October 1899
Volume no: 40
Page no: 0459

Death

Name: ROURKE, Noel
Registration district: Salford
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1975
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth:25 December 1909
Volume no: 39
Page no: 0981

1911 census

Person: ROURKE, Margaret Address: 62 Trafford Road Salford

ROURKE, John Head Married M 37 1874 Florist Lancashire Salford VIEW
ROURKE, Margaret Wife Married16 years F 35 1876 Lancashire Salford VIEW
ROURKE JUN, John Son Single M 15 1896 Assisting In Business Lancashire Salford VIEW
ROURKE JUN, Douglas Son Single M 11 1900 School Lancashire Salford VIEW
ROURKE JUN, Gladys Daughter Single F 8 1903 School Lancashire Salford VIEW
ROURKE, Allanah Daughter Single F 5 1906 Lancashire Salford VIEW
ROURKE, Clifford Son Single M 3 1908 Lancashire Salford VIEW
ROURKE, Noel Son Single M 2 1909 Lancashire Salford VIEW
DEAN Servant Widow F 53 1858 General Domesticm Servant Lancashire Preston


10 children born during marriage - 4 have died
Plenty of names for you to work on.....................

Any dates?

Have you tried looking for info yourself?

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Try 'search all member trees' on here..........under the 'search' button

At least one other GR member has Margaret in his tree - contact him