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3 Feb 2014 00:27 |
Hi
I am looking for my adopted brother. He was born as David Benjamin, Feb 1953 in London. He was adopted out to a Lydia Ivy Louise Bourne in 1956 and would have grown up in the Hampstead area. I have put my name on the GRO contact register but he is not currently on it. However, I am aware he tried to make contact with his birth family, probably in the late 90s. Unfortunately, it wasn't mentioned to me until later, when it was too late to find out any information.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Valerie
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Mistycat
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3 Feb 2014 01:02 |
Maybe Lydia's death cert would give some clue, David could be informant, her death may also have prompted him to try and make contact in late 90s.....
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Lydia Ivy L Bourne Birth Date: 1 Jan 1907 Date of Registration: Jan 1999 Age at Death: 92 Registration District: Camden Inferred County: London Register Number: D48A District and Subdistrict: 2501D Entry Number: 7
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FAIRTHORN
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3 Feb 2014 02:20 |
£9.25 on-line https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
HAVE TO AGREE ODDS ARE DAVID IS THE INFORMANT not much via their family tree
ON ANCESTRY
Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Ivy Lydia Louise Ridley 1931 Ivy Lydia Louise Bourne 1933
Edgar Ambrose Bourne 1933
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FAIRTHORN
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3 Feb 2014 02:24 |
Marriages Sep 1932 Bourne Edgar A Ridley Hampstead 1a 1741 Ridley Ivy L L Bourne Hampstead 1a 1741
Births Mar 1908 Ridley Ivy Lydia L Marylebone 1a 487
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Births Mar 1903 Bourne Edgar Ambrose W. Ashford 2a 899
Name: BOURNE, Edgar A Registration district: Ashford County: Kent Year of registration: 1958 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death:56 Volume no: 5B Page no: 30
GR family tree Edgar (Jack) Bourne 1903 Kent England ...
Marriages Dec 1901 RIDLEY Thomas E J C Marylebone 1a 1195 STYLES Edith Carrie Marylebone 1a 1195
Births Mar 1913 Ridley Alfred J Styles Marylebone 1a 852
SADLY POSSIBLE Deaths Dec 1914 Ridley Alfred J 1 Fulham 1a 293
Births Dec 1906 Ridley Edith Grace Marylebone 1a 471
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3 Feb 2014 02:54 |
1911 CENSUS
RIDLEY, Thomas Head Married9 years M 35 1876 Odd Jobs London St Marylebone RIDLEY, Edith Wife Married9 years F 35 1876 Out Door Domestic London Bow RIDLEY, Grace Daughter F 4 1907 London St Marylebone RIDLEY, Ivy Daughter F 3 1908 London St Marylebone RIDLEY, Albert Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 London St Pancras WOOD, Ruth Niece F 13 1898 London St Giles RIDLEY, Louisa Mother Widow F 64 1847 Nursing Monthly London City
Births Dec 1876 RIDLEY Thomas Edward J C Marylebone 1a 572
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Val55
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3 Feb 2014 04:22 |
Thank you so much everyone. I have been looking at Lydia and her family. But I noticed that after 1964 she was no longer in the British directory and the electoral register only went up to 1965. I did see that Lydia died in 1999 but I didn't at all think about purchasing her death certificate so I am very grateful for the suggestion as I will definitely do that.
I came to a dead end when I couldn't find any marriages or children for Grace Ridley (Lydia's sister). It was of my assumption as well that Lydia and Edgar may have separated or divorced when she adopted David as they weren't living at the same address in the 60s. Therefore, I don't know if he has any close relatives alive.
Another question. I found on deceasedonline the cemetery she was buried in. Is it possible to get information from the council or cemetery about who owns the grave or would that be classified?
Thanks again.
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FAIRTHORN
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3 Feb 2014 04:43 |
Edgar Bourne sadly died in 1958 see above
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
Why not do it on-line via the above website you mentioned this will be quicker that waiting for the £9.25 death cetificate.
Transcribed register £2.00 About ... Grave details and 1 other burial £1.50
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3 Feb 2014 04:47 |
Looks like the person who registered her death sadly guessed her date of birth
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FAIRTHORN
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3 Feb 2014 05:00 |
Edgar is on a few GR Family Trees Looks to be known as JACK There is a J mentioned on the old electoral rolls
JUST FOR INFO
1911 CENSUS BOURNE, Arthur Head Married M 47 1864 Shepherd On A Farm Midley Kent BOURNE, Jane Wife Married23 years F 45 1866 Appledore Kent BOURNE, Nathan Son Single M 21 1890 Labourer On Farm Lyminge Kent BOURNE, Kathleen Daughter Single F 19 1892 Lyminge Kent BOURNE, Henry Son Single M 18 1893 Labourer Bricklayers On Estate Lyminge Kent BOURNE, Andrew Son M 14 1897 Newsboy Little Chart Kent BOURNE, Fredrick Son M 12 1899 School Little Chart Kent BOURNE, Edgar Son M 8 1903 Little Chart Kent BOURNE, Emmie Daughter F 5 1906 Little Chart Kent
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Val55
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3 Feb 2014 11:10 |
I didn't see that Edgar had passed away. I thought they had split so I hadn't looked at his side of the family so thanks Fairthorn for all the information. It will be very useful. You have been so amazing. I really appreciate the help.
The info given on deceasedonline for Lydia gave the cemetery and grave reference but not much else of significance. However, my daughter thought she would pass it onto her friend who will visit the grave to see its inscription. And I have bought the death certificate as well anyway.
I looked up the family trees on this site as you mentioned there were a few with Edgar in them. Just as I am new to this, is it appropriate to ask the owners or make contact with them about David?
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Val55
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10 Feb 2014 01:23 |
I am Val's daughter Bec (Mum and I have been doing the search hand in hand). I hope you don't mind me posting on behalf of my mum. I just wanted to let you guys know that we got in contact with David Bourne this morning. He goes by the name Reuben now. I phoned him on Saturday (mum was too nervous) but he wasn't home, so still not knowing if it was him, I left a message and he called back this morning (Perth, Aus time). He was so delighted, amazed and so grateful. Mum was quite emotional too. I am so happy for my mum and for Reuben who now knows that he has family that care about him very much.
Thanks Fairthorn and Mistycat for your helpful posts and Sappho for the messages which led us to phoning a number on the off chance he still lived in Hampstead. We are so lucky he didn't move to a different borough or city.
How you all assist others find lost relatives is truly amazing and both mum and I will never forget how you helped us. We will stay on here and try to return the favour to others.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. :-)
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Val55
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10 Feb 2014 08:51 |
My daughter has been amazing with the help of all the people in this community in the success of helping myself locate my half brother. Rebecca has worked tirelessly, leaving no stone unturned. I'm grateful to all the people who have given us advice which assisted us in finding David. He has gone from having no family one day to having a large family the next day. I know the road to getting to know each other is going to be emotional but it will be worth it. So I thank each one of you for taking the time to give us advice and information on how to find a family member. I wish you all the best and love. Val
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10 Feb 2014 09:44 |
Hi Val and Bec,
Congratulations - wonderful news.
All very happy for you. Welldone
Best wishes to you and your family,
Sappho
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Mistycat
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10 Feb 2014 11:53 |
Hello Val and Bec
What lovely news, so very pleased for you all....Enjoy every moment.
Very Best Wishes
Misty x
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