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Reggie you have pasted the information that appears at the link I gave before Kay???? jumped on me so yes, I do use freebmd :-)

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/bradford.html

... but I had just posted it just to confirm the identity and location of Bradford reg dist, before the attempt to put me in my place with the 'I know what vol 2b means', and yes I missed that bit about '2B (1946–74)' because I wasn't looking for it ... I just figured it out for myself after the attempted smack down ... by looking at the actual search results for that volume in that year.

I had then consulted

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/civreg/GROIndexes.html

which unfortunately does not make it clear that the volume number in this case at least goes to mid-1946, not '1946'.

I absolutely agree with using freebmd, if you see my posts you see that is where I most often copy and paste bmd entries from (it is certainly much more straighforward than all that 'probable spouse' 'before 1911' business), it is just that in the mid-1900s it is not yet complete and so I use another source as well and sometimes start with the other source to make sure I am not missing something.

Reggie

Not everyone knows about Freebmd, they need to be directed there. When I first started helping on these boards 4 years ago I had a sub to GR and ancestry, why did I want to look at something that was free when I had paid? also I had no idea what people meant when they just said use freebmd...we didn't have the hyperlinks back then either

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

If you all used freebmd, you'd have accurate info....................

BRADFORD REGISTRATION DISTRICT

Registration County : Yorkshire West Riding (1837–1974); West Yorkshire (1974–2008).
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.10.2008 (to become part of Bradford & Keighley registration district).
Sub-districts : Bowling, Bradford Central, Bradford East, Bradford North, Bradford South, Bradford West, Calverley, Cleckheaton, Drighlington, Horton, Idle, Little Horton, Manningham, North Bierley, Pudsey, St. Lukes, Shipley, Thornton, Wilsden

***********GRO volumes : XXIII (1837–51), 9b (1852–1946), 2B (1946–74), 4 (1974–92).***********

Registers currently held at : Bradford & Keighley, Leeds and Dewsbury.

and Kay???? who I am sure is whoever you is even if it looks like you don't know yourself :-D

Bradford
is
not
in
Hampshire

and

Brighton
is
not
in
West Yorkshire

The registration for the birth in question says, in the image of the index which can be seen at Ancestry, Q3-Jul-Aug-Sep 1946,

name ... Bradford 2b 285

It does not say Hampshire or any other county ... it says only the registration district because that is what the GRO index says, registration district, not county, counties are invented ... er, 'inferred' ... by Ancestry for its index

one of the births registered in Doncaster is vol 2b p 643

one of the births registered in Hastings is vol 2b p 4

one of the births registered in Brighton is 2b 406

so hmm gosh I wonder ... did the numbering change in mid-1946? well gosh I believe it did

Search at Ancestry with nothing but year 1946 vol 2b as the search text

>>> the Bradford Halifax Doncaster etc registrations with vol 2b are all in Q3 and Q4 1946

>>> the Battle Brighton Hastings etc registrations with vol 2b are all in Q1 and Q2 1946

I guess we learn something new every day !

... in Q1 1946 vol 2a was Bradford ... which Ancestry says was in Staffordshire that quarter ...


no need to apologise for your rudeness, just share a chuckle with me :-D

Joonie Cloonie or who ever you are,,,I know what registration area 2b covers from 1852 to 1946,

Hampshire/West Sussex or shared part of.

2b did not cover Yorkshire or any part of it,as you have previously stated.

excuse me Kay???? ??

search at Ancestry using only the information

exact search
year 1946
volume 2b

it brings up the following ridiculous results out of a total of over 26,000

Bradford Sussex
Halifax Sussex
Doncaster Sussex, Isle of Wight
Huddersfield Sussex, Isle of Wight
Battle Yorkshire West Riding
Brighton Yorkshire West Riding
Hastings Yorkshire West Riding
Goole Sussex, Isle of Wight
Dewsbury Sussex, Isle of Wight
Hemsworth Sussex, Isle of Wight

Ancestry has obviously and incomprehensibly -reversed-
Yorkshire West Riding
and
Sussex, Isle of Wight
for huge numbers of registrations

and you seem to be believing that nonsense Kay????

the registration district is what matters, county is only 'inferred' by Ancestry

there is only -one- registration district called Bradford and it is not in Sussex or Isle of Wight

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/bradford.html

Jax you are correct the 1946 registration index of 2b isnt for Yorkshire,it shares registration area with Hampshire/ W.Sussex boarders .


:-D

Good Luck Shelia

Yes it shows if Yorkshire isn't mentioned......if you are searching for a Jones birth then area does help, not looking for somewhere almost 300 miles away

I think that is very kind of you and you are prepared for her not to be interested so that is as well, hopefully she will want to know, as you are 'family' of a sort and it is rather too bad you did not know each other when you were young, and that she did not know her dad.

Have sent a message to the person on G.R so hope I will be lucky; it is possible she may not want to know anything about her Father's side of the family, but just in case, I would like her to have the option. We would not be related in any way, but if she was interested in her Paternal line, then I have a great deal of information and photographs etc. Thank you all for your help.

I'm afraid I'm not going to post the birth details of an almost certainly living person :-)

However I see that in Ancestry's own clever way it says "Bradford, Sussex, Isle of Wight" .....

so searching in Yorkshire would not have found it

the vol and page numbers match Bradford Yorkshire

Ancestry has the county wrong almost as often as right (I see in the list for the same name that Southampton might be in Berkshire ...)

(I had just searched for the name with mother stewar* and found both discussed here)

Well I cannot see the 1946 birth on ancestry....so must be me then not looking properly

This is what I get from putting in the full details




Jennifer A Jones
Oct-Nov-Dec 1948 Claro Yorkshire West Riding

Jennifer M Jones
Jan-Feb-Mar 1948 Bradford Yorkshire West Riding

Jennifer M Jones
Jul-Aug-Sep 1949 Bradford Yorkshire, Northumberland, Westmorland

Jennifer M Jones
Jul-Aug-Sep 1946 Shrewsbury Yorkshire

Jennifer M Jones
Jul-Aug-Sep 1946 Birmingham Yorkshire

Jennifer M Jones
Jul-Aug-Sep 1946 Bilston Yorkshire

Steward and Stewart may be alike but a person's name is one or the other.

Frances was StewarD. She married Jones in Bradford. The Jennifer with mother StewarD was born in Bradford.

"I found Jennifer's name on Ancestry.co.uk - it gives her birthplace as Claro, Yorkshire born to Frances Steward and Wallace Frank Jones in 1948."

Nothing on Ancestry says that at all, it just says the name was Jones and the mother was StewarT.

(I can see the Jennifer Jones 1946 on Ancestry, middle initial m, no problem ... !)

Sheila if you find the 1957 birth on ancestry with father Ginn and mother StewarD you know who to look for in trees, that person seems to have herself in her own tree.

...... except I see jax already sent it :-D

You can find Frances daughter from 2nd marriage easily enough

will pm the name

Could you please tell me who has the Tree on Genes Reunited; there are a few names, so I am not sure which is correct one. Thank you.

Not sure why you dismissing the 1946 birth...which in all probability is the correct one

Why would she be given her grandmothers name as a middle name? 'A' probably stands for Ann or anything her parents had decided on not necessarily a handed down name

Why don't you contact the person who has a tree on here? (frances daughter from 2nd marriage)

edit- Just to add Jennifer born 1946 is not showing on ancestry....so no wonder you thought the other one was correct

I have not made any attempt other than this to find Jennifer - the name Steward and Stewart are so alike that it is possible to be either one; one of them has "A" as a middle initial, and I am wondering if it could be "Agnes" as middle name, as that would have been her Grandmother's first name. I should send for both certs, and that would confirm things. Thank you for all your advice and help.

There is a possible birth for a daughter from the Steward/Ginn marriage.
Her birth shows on free bmd.

She is in a tree on here, with a fairly new membership number.

Added:
She also appears to have Arthur in her tree.

The marriage of Steward/Ginn and the births for both of them can be found on free bmd. Both could still be alive.
Have you tried to find them?

The Jennifer Jones born in Claro in 1948 has Stewart for mother's maiden name, not Steward.
There is a different Jennifer from Bradford, born in 1946 with mmn Steward.

This is the problem that we were having when looking for the birth.

Is it worth getting the birth certificates to confirm which is the correct one?