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i wanna start doing my mum side family tree.

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Ru

Ru Report 18 Jan 2014 09:34

Hello babyface2008

I think you may create a larger problem than you solve.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to familiarise yourself with the Genes site and what it has to offer.

You say you want to start 'doing' your mums side of the family, but in actual fact you are asking others to do it for you.

The fun is that you do this for yourself so once you know what the site offers, you can then commence research for yourself. When you are stuck on a particular point, you can come in and ask helpers who will do their very best to assist on that point. At the present time we are all going around wondering quite what it is you wish to obtain from the members and this site.

Try it, it really is fun!! You will be rewarded I know you will.

Good luck

Sappho

Aussietrish

Aussietrish Report 18 Jan 2014 05:37

Must agree with everyone. You will need to buy a cert before you can safely move on. Genealogy can get quite expensive ; but sometimes you cannot avoid buying a certificate. If you dont then you can never be sure your tree is accurate.....

I did this once. I was doing my mothers tree and could not afford another certificate for a while. Using the census I developed a branch for what should have been my mums gt aunt (I think). Trouble was she dissapeared without trace from the census and Marriage /death index. For months it bugged me and I spent many many weeks tring to find her .In the end I decided to purchase her certificate .. Low and behold she was not a rellie. Seems her father was using a name that he had not been born with and just happened to be the same as the person in my tree. Weeks of work ended up in the bin .
Sadly a few people "stole" the information off my tree and put it on their own. I did contact them but they could not be bothered to remove that branch "because it is only a very remote ancestor"

the moral of this story.

Buy a certificate when proof is unavailable it is the only safe way to move on.

Don't assume.

Never ever copy a persons tree; the likely hood of it having mistakes is reasonable high. Use it as a guide only.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2014 22:36

Will you PLEASE take notice of what people are telling you - you keep posting but are obviously NOT reading the advice......................so what is the point?

Get Winifred's MARRIAGE cert.............!!!!!

babyface2008

babyface2008 Report 17 Jan 2014 22:32

ok i try look at mum birth certificate ,i ant got none on my side but need find out when my nan was born from there i could find her parents .

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2014 22:21

Stephanie

BUY some certs......and come back AFTER you have got them

patchem

patchem Report 17 Jan 2014 22:16

Stephanie,

Which certificates have you actually got from GRO?

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Which ones are you going to get so that you can find out more information about your family?

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Jan 2014 21:58

Stephanie, everything you need to find out more about your mother's family is here. You need your mother's birth cert first of all, then your grandmother's birth cert.

babyface2008

babyface2008 Report 17 Jan 2014 21:49

i dont no my nan or bert . i dont no my mum family all i no is her sister dont for get my mother put into care when she was young so i dont no my mum side ov family ?

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 16 Jan 2014 20:44

I was just going to let babyface know that several people have this person

Bertie Summerill 1898 Birmingham West Midlands England

in their family trees at this site






but she is one of them .......................

so did babyface already know this? everything that people are spending their time finding for her here ( like the 1930 Bert Summerhill and Lily Phillips marriage )?

or maybe she added that name to her tree today after Rambling Rose put the marriage here and babyface quickly looked up Bert's birth ......... hm

and either she already knows all the other people who have him in their trees

or she has not bothered to try to contact them if she knew about Bert already

( or they might not know anything about Bert's daughter Winifred of course )


Births Dec 1898
SUMMERHILL Bertie Birmingham 6d 15
Summerill Bertie Birmingham 6d 15

SUMMERHILL is incorrect
the name in the index is SUMMERILL

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 16 Jan 2014 20:28

babyface do you read anything that anyone puts here ?

what is it that you want to find out ????????????????????

if you know how old you were when your granddad CHRISTOPHER CONNOLLY ?? died

then why do you not know anything about WINIFRED SUMMERILL ??

it does not matter how old you were or who was married

if you want to know something about someone,

say what it is

and take the advice people give you about how to find out

babyface2008

babyface2008 Report 16 Jan 2014 20:25

i was 13 years old when my grandad died my mum n her sister was married ?

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 16 Jan 2014 19:21

aaaiiiieeeee

Winifred Summerill (no middle initial) married Christopher M Connolly and he died in 1999 as I posted on the previous page

Name: Christoper Myles Connolly
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1932
Date of Registration: Dec 1999
Age at Death: 67 >>> born 1932 in Liverpool
Registration District: Tower Hamlets
Inferred County: London
Register Number: B31
District and Subdistrict: 2461B
Entry number: 275

THAT death certificate could tell you whether Winifred was living with him when he died or otherwise maybe where their child was living !!!!!!

they seem to have had one child after the marriage

as . I . said .... he may or may not be the father of your mum ..... if your mum said he was that is possible but he could also have been her stepfather ....

probably only DNA tests of some close relation would tell

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Jan 2014 18:45

Stephanie, the only way anyone can help you is for you to buy some certificates as advised , which will confirm actual names and ages.

You can be pretty certain that the Winifred R Summerhill born 1934 is your grandmother, sisters Marjorie, Brenda and brother Bert ( died ), so given that this is most 'likely' their parents marriage

Marriages Dec 1930 (>99%)

Phillips Lily Summerhill Birmingham N. 6d 1086

Summerhill Bert Phillips Birmingham N. 6d 1086

patchem

patchem Report 16 Jan 2014 18:32

Who died in 1999?

Thank-you

babyface2008

babyface2008 Report 16 Jan 2014 18:04

my mum did as she told me he died 1999?

babyface2008

babyface2008 Report 16 Jan 2014 18:04

my mum did as she told me he died 1999?

jax

jax Report 16 Jan 2014 17:13

If you have not found your grandmothers birth....why have you added a postem to one born 1934? also a comment on the mistranscribed entry on Ancestry...saying she is your nan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2014 17:02

You don't actually know who your mother's father was.............so you can't have found his records.

You must buy a copy of the cert of Winifred's marriage in 1961, to find out how old she was, and if she knew HER father.

There is no point in wasting time trying to look for anything until you get that copy..................

babyface2008

babyface2008 Report 16 Jan 2014 16:57

ive tryed looking for my nan birth cant seem find it on free bmd only found my grandad birth and death, all so found marriage .

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 16 Jan 2014 00:51

I think you 'found' him because I and others put that information in your thread right here on the first page ... I posted the information about his death in 1999 that shows he was born in 1932 and I told you he was born in Liverpool ... you must have read it after all .............

you do not know he was your grandad, your mum's father, unless he is on her birth certificate

he was your nan's husband, but she married after your mum was born

you have 'found' your nan's birth before ......... because, as has been said here, you added a postem to it at freebmd, and you also added notes to it at Ancestry


if you do not keep a record of the things you find .......... and things other people find for you .......... you are just going to keep coming back and asking people to find them for you all over again ?

and then deleting the threads ?