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There is not birth registered in Birkenhead for Alfred Henry - only a Henry

Births Jun 1904 McKenzie Henry Birkenhead 8a 497

Have you looked on FreeBMD to check if there were any children from Lilian's marriage please?

As you have researched back from 1911, have you identify which 4 of the 7 children born to James and Emma had died?


You only name 6 of the 7 children and have only given a year of death for 2 prior to 1911 although 4 had died.

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
Quinn John Birkenhead 8a 663
Veale Mary Birkenhead 8a 663

This could be Emily with her widowed sister? Lilian appears to be in Litherland with her aunt/unclle


Emily McKenzie
Age:40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head:Sister
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Ireland
Civil Parish:Birkenhead
County/Island:Cheshire
Country:England
Street Address
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:

Household Members:
Name Mary Quinn 43
Emily McKenzie 40
Lennard Waters 19 (boarder)

This culd be James working away from home he's a plumber - there is a long list of boarders:


James McKenzie
Age:47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head:Lodger
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Salford
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage (Married)
Education:
Employment status:

Have you found the family in the 1901 census?

I can't seem to spot them.

So just Henry according to his probate record - granted to his widow Daisy Elizabeth McKenzie:


Henry McKenzie
Probate Date:5 Oct 1965
Death Date:22 Mar 1965
Death Place:Birkenhead
Registry:Liverpool, England

Birth and marriage just registered under the name Henry, no mention of Alfred.

Perhaps he married using just his middle name??

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Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)
HILL Daisy E McKenzie Birkenhead 8a 1269
McKenzie Henry Hill Birkenhead 8a 1269

Deaths Mar 1965 (>99%)
MCKENZIE HENRY 60 Birkenhead 10a 98

Have you actually found a marriage for Alfred H to Daisy in 1931 - I can't see one on freebmd? Nor can I see one 5 years either side.

Is this Daisy Hill?

Births Jun 1910
HILL Daisy Elizabeth Birkenhead 8a 479

Daisy E McKenzie
Birth Date: abt 1911
Date of Registration: Mar 1968
Age at Death: 57
Registration District: Wirral
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 1001

Did you get the marriage certificate for more information - if she had been married before then we would be looking at totally the wrong names?

Have you looked for children of the marriage?

Could you say which family member you are descended from - or none of them?

Have you got marriage and death certificates for them?

Have you looked to see if others on here have them in their trees?

As this location is shown as "Find Living Relatives", that is what I was looking for. I have the complete family history from 1911 back to Scotland but wish to move forwards.
Thanks for all your help so far.
Dave

Exactly what clues or surprises are you hoping for David?

1881 mistranscribed as Mckenrie...


..1881 England Census
about Margaret McKenrie Name: Margaret McKenrie
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: James McKenrie
Mother: Emily McKenrie
Gender: Female
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 23 Bright St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: West Derby
Sub-registration District: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3653
Folio: 49
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
James McKenrie 25 (Beer and Wine Dealer)
Emily McKenrie 20 (Ireland)
Margaret McKenrie 1
Margaret Veale 13 (Servant)

1891 England Census
about James McKenzie Name: James McKenzie
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily McKenzie
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: West Derby
Sub-registration District: West Derby (Rural)
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2998
Folio: 42
Page Number: 78
Household Members: Name Age
James McKenzie 36 (Gas Fitter/Plumber)
Emily McKenzie 30 (Ireland)
Margaret C McKenzie 11
Edward J McKenzie 2/12

Name: Margaret Catherine McKenzie
Birth Date: 4 Jan
Baptism Date: 4 Feb 1880
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/78

Name: James Richard McKenzie
Birth Date: 13 Nov
Baptism Date: 17 Dec 1882
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/82

Name: Edward James McKenzie
Birth Date: 31 Jan
Baptism Date: 15 Mar 1891
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/90


Name: Lilian Gertrude McKenzie
Birth Date: 31 May 1895
Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1896
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/95

Name: Emily McKenzie
Birth Date: 7 Sep
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1884
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/84

Marriages Sep 1928
HUGHES Robert W MCKENZIE Birkenhead 8a 1316
McKenzie Lilian G Hughes Birkenhead 8a 1316

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Name: Lilian Gertrude Hughes
Birth Date: 31 May 1895
Date of Registration: Dec 1970
Age at Death: 75
Registration District: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 92

..Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about James McKenzie (Bachelor) Bar Man
Birth Year: abt 1854
Age: 24
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1878
Parish: Liverpool, St Simon
Spouse's Name: Emily Veale (Spinster)
Father's Name: James McKenzie (Boot/Shoe Maker)
Spouse Father's Name: Richard Veale (Boiler Maker)
Reference Number: 283 SIM/3/5
Witnesses: John? Edwards? and Ruth Clegg.