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I am looking for any information, clues or a surprise regarding a James McKenzie family that lived in the Birkenhead area of Wirral, Merseyside;

James McKenzie 1854 Liverpool - 1917 Birkenhead.
married Emily Veale 1878 in Liverpool.
Their children
Margaret Catherine 1880 Liverpool
James Richard 1882 - 1885 Liverpool
Emily 1884. Liverpool
Edward James 1891 - 1893 Liverpool
Lillian Gertrude 1895 Liverpool
Alfred Henry 1904 -1965 Birkenhead. Married Daisy Hill 1931

By 1901 this family had relocated to Birkenhead.
In 1911 were living at 20 Moon St Birkenhead.
Thank you,
Dave
Canada

Have you looked to see if anyone has these people in their trees?

Have you looked to see if any of these people are in anyone's tree on genes?

If they are, you can then attempt to contact the tree owners for more information.

Have you looked for marriages and descendants, as you are on the Find Living Relatives board, and there could be very many living relatives.

Could you say how you are related to them?

Thank-you

For info...

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: MCKENZIE, James
Address: 20 Moon Street Birkenhead

MCKENZIE, James Head Married M 57 1854 Plumber And Gas Fitter Liverpool Lankshire VIEW
MCKENZIE, Emily Wife Married32 years F 50 1861 Waterford Waterford Resident VIEW
MCKENZIE, Lilian Daughter Single F 15 1896 Soap Wrapper Liverpool Lanc VIEW
MCKENZIE, Alfred Hanry Son Single M 7 1904 School Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 21971
Reference: RG14PN21971 RG78PN1308 RD452 SD1 ED14 SN121
Registration District: Birkenhead
Sub District: Birkenhead
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: Birkenhead
Address: 20 Moon Street Birkenhead
County: Cheshire
(7 children born, 3 living, 4 had died)

Exactly what information are you looking for?

..Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about James McKenzie (Bachelor) Bar Man
Birth Year: abt 1854
Age: 24
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1878
Parish: Liverpool, St Simon
Spouse's Name: Emily Veale (Spinster)
Father's Name: James McKenzie (Boot/Shoe Maker)
Spouse Father's Name: Richard Veale (Boiler Maker)
Reference Number: 283 SIM/3/5
Witnesses: John? Edwards? and Ruth Clegg.

Marriages Sep 1928
HUGHES Robert W MCKENZIE Birkenhead 8a 1316
McKenzie Lilian G Hughes Birkenhead 8a 1316

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Name: Lilian Gertrude Hughes
Birth Date: 31 May 1895
Date of Registration: Dec 1970
Age at Death: 75
Registration District: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 92

Name: Emily McKenzie
Birth Date: 7 Sep
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1884
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/84

Name: Margaret Catherine McKenzie
Birth Date: 4 Jan
Baptism Date: 4 Feb 1880
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/78

Name: James Richard McKenzie
Birth Date: 13 Nov
Baptism Date: 17 Dec 1882
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/82

Name: Edward James McKenzie
Birth Date: 31 Jan
Baptism Date: 15 Mar 1891
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/90


Name: Lilian Gertrude McKenzie
Birth Date: 31 May 1895
Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1896
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: James McKenzie
Mother's Name: Emily McKenzie
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/95

1891 England Census
about James McKenzie Name: James McKenzie
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily McKenzie
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: West Derby
Sub-registration District: West Derby (Rural)
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2998
Folio: 42
Page Number: 78
Household Members: Name Age
James McKenzie 36 (Gas Fitter/Plumber)
Emily McKenzie 30 (Ireland)
Margaret C McKenzie 11
Edward J McKenzie 2/12

1881 mistranscribed as Mckenrie...


..1881 England Census
about Margaret McKenrie Name: Margaret McKenrie
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: James McKenrie
Mother: Emily McKenrie
Gender: Female
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 23 Bright St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: West Derby
Sub-registration District: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3653
Folio: 49
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
James McKenrie 25 (Beer and Wine Dealer)
Emily McKenrie 20 (Ireland)
Margaret McKenrie 1
Margaret Veale 13 (Servant)

Exactly what clues or surprises are you hoping for David?

As this location is shown as "Find Living Relatives", that is what I was looking for. I have the complete family history from 1911 back to Scotland but wish to move forwards.
Thanks for all your help so far.
Dave

Could you say which family member you are descended from - or none of them?

Have you got marriage and death certificates for them?

Have you looked to see if others on here have them in their trees?

Is this Daisy Hill?

Births Jun 1910
HILL Daisy Elizabeth Birkenhead 8a 479

Daisy E McKenzie
Birth Date: abt 1911
Date of Registration: Mar 1968
Age at Death: 57
Registration District: Wirral
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 1001

Did you get the marriage certificate for more information - if she had been married before then we would be looking at totally the wrong names?

Have you looked for children of the marriage?

Have you actually found a marriage for Alfred H to Daisy in 1931 - I can't see one on freebmd? Nor can I see one 5 years either side.

Perhaps he married using just his middle name??

??

Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)
HILL Daisy E McKenzie Birkenhead 8a 1269
McKenzie Henry Hill Birkenhead 8a 1269

Deaths Mar 1965 (>99%)
MCKENZIE HENRY 60 Birkenhead 10a 98

So just Henry according to his probate record - granted to his widow Daisy Elizabeth McKenzie:


Henry McKenzie
Probate Date:5 Oct 1965
Death Date:22 Mar 1965
Death Place:Birkenhead
Registry:Liverpool, England

Birth and marriage just registered under the name Henry, no mention of Alfred.

Have you found the family in the 1901 census?

I can't seem to spot them.

This culd be James working away from home he's a plumber - there is a long list of boarders:


James McKenzie
Age:47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head:Lodger
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Salford
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage (Married)
Education:
Employment status: