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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Oct 2013 12:33

possible death

Civil Registration event: Death

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Name: CRONAN, Humphrey
Registration district: Guildford
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1881
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 36
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 40

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Oct 2013 12:38

1891 census transcription details for: 35, Oxford Street, Preston


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3440
Folio: 96
Page: 52
Reg. District: Preston
Sub District: St John
Parish: Preston
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St James
City/Municipal Borough: Preston
Address: 35, Oxford Street, Preston
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CRONAN, Margaret Head Widow>>>>>> F 47 1844 Charwoman
Ireland
CRONAN, Winfred Daughter Single F 24 1867 Domestic Servant
Liverpool, Lancashire
FOX, Richard Lodger Married M 21 1870 Car Conductor
Preston, Lancashire
FOX, Ruth Lodger Married F 27 1864 Machinist Underclothing
Preston, Lancashire

Flip

Flip Report 15 Oct 2013 13:30

This explains Humphry's imprisonment:

Humphrey Cronan
Date of Trial: 17 Feb 1879
Trial Year: 1879
Location of Trial: Lancashire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See I

He was given 5 years for Larceny from a ship.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 15 Oct 2013 14:29

It gets more fascinating! I think Humphreys mother was a peddler from Ireland, lodging in Liverpool with three of her children, one of whom was Humphrey

Flip

Flip Report 15 Oct 2013 17:46

Yes, I can see that 1851 census - Mary (born Antrim) a "visitor" with children John (Ireland) Humphrey and Ellen (Liverpool), so you are not buying the info that he was born in Kent then?

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 25 Oct 2013 13:30

Thank you so much for the info on Cronans and Matthews from which we have now been able to build up a picture. We are, however, now stuck on my husbands mothers side! She was Margaret Wilson born 1910 in Preston. Her parents were Matthew Wilson born 1874 in Hexham, Northumberland and Margaret Throup born 1882. With Throup being an unusual name you would think we could easily find her birth, but we can't! Also we can't find anything more about Matthew Wilson. I would think Margaret Throup was born in Lancashire. Any ideas please? Thank you in advance!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:38

Don't know where you've looked.................this is from LancsBMD, which I told you about on page one of this thread

You really should put it in your favourites, and use it


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1909
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

WILSON Margaret East Preston Preston THROUP EP/13/99

If you've only tried freebmd.........MMN isn't on the index till after 1911

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:42

1911 census

Person: WILSON, Margaret Address: 48 High St Preston

WILSON, Matthew Head Married M 37 1874 Joiner Hexham Northumberland VIEW
WILSON, Margaret Wife Married4 years F 29 1882 Preston Lancashire VIEW
WILSON, Jane Throup Daughter F 3 1908 Preston Lancashire VIEW
WILSON, Hannah Daughter F 2 1909 Preston Lancashire VIEW
WILSON, Margaret Daughter F 1 1910 Preston Lancashire VIEW
WILSON, Henry Tumley Brother Single M 39 1872 Labourer Hexham Northumberland VIEW
MORAN, Patrick Boarder Married M 49 1862 Farm Labourer Nase County Mayo

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:45

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

THROUP Margaret Trinity Preston THROUP TR/11/44

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:48

The marriage of her parents can easily be found on freebmd

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:49

Baptism: 3 May 1882 All Saints, Preston, Lancashire, England
Margaret Throup - [Child] of Jane Throup
Born: 4 Mar 1882
Abode: 15 Lancaster Road
Occupation: Single woman
Baptised by: Thos James Curate
Register: Baptisms 1876 - 1900, Page 63, Entry 504
Source: FHL 1544765

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:50

1881 census


Person: THROUP, Jane Address: 6, Salmon St, Fishwick

EDELSTON, James Head Married M 42 1839 Cotton Manufacturer
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
EDELSTON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 43 1838
Longton, Lancashire VIEW
EDELSTON, William Henry Son Single M 21 1860 Book Keeper (Cotton Mill)
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
EDELSTON, Peter Son Single M 18 1863 Book Keeper (Cotton Mill)
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
EDELSTON, Ada Daughter Single F 15 1866 Scholar
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
EDELSTON, James Jnr Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
EDELSTON, Thomas Dugald Son Single M 2 1879
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
THROUP, Jane Servant Single F 20 1861 General & Domestic
Garstang, Lancashire VIEW
FIELDING, William Visitor Single M 23 1858 Designer (Artzn)
Manchester, Lancashire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:51

Baptism: 11 Nov 1860 St Thomas, Garstang, Lancashire, England
Jane Throupe - Daughter of David Throupe & Margaret
Abode: Garstang
Occupation: Earthenware Dealer
Baptised by: William Armitstead
Register: Baptisms 1858 - 1880, Page 6, Entry 87
Source: LDS Film 1470930

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:52

1861 census

Person: THROUPE, Jane Address: Manor House, Garstang

THROUPE, David Head Married M 25 1836 ... Dealer
..., Yorkshire VIEW
THROUPE, Margaret Wife Married F 21 1840
..., Lancashire VIEW
THROUPE, John Son M 2 1859
..., Lancashire VIEW
THROUPE, Jane Daughter F 0 (5M) 1861
..., Lancashire VIEW
JENNISON, George Visitor Unmarried M 24 1837 ... Dealer
Rendall, Westmorland

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:53

Marriage: 8 Aug 1857 St Helen, Garstang, Lancashire, England
David Throup - 22, Earthen-ware Dealer, Bachelor, Garstang
Margaret Howard - (X), 21, Spinster, Garstang
Groom's Father: John Throup, Earthen-ware Dealer
Bride's Father: John Howard, Earthen-ware Dealer
Witness: Nicholas Billington; John Crane
Married by Registrar's Certificate by: Thomas Carter M. A.Curate
Register: Marriages 1856 - 1881, Page 16, Entry 31
Source: LDS Film 1278890

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 13:59

????

1851 census


Person: THROUP, David Address: Village, West Riding, York

THROUP, John Head Married M 60 1791 Flour Dealer
Long Preston, Yorkshire VIEW
THROUP, Sarah Wife Married F 58 1793
Lancaster VIEW
THROUP, John Son Unmarried M 25 1826 Weaver Cotton
Long Preston, Yorkshire VIEW
THROUP, David Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Weaver Cotton
Long Preston, Yorkshire

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 25 Oct 2013 15:00

Thank you so much! At the moment we can't sleep at night with so much info going round in our heads so it's fantastic that you've come up with all this! :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2013 17:00

You're welcome............

Flip

Flip Report 26 Oct 2013 11:17

A bit on Matthew, the brother on 1911 census is Henry Lumley Wilson according to the image, they are with their mother in 1891:

Matthew Wilson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Hannah Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Holl Uw, Northamptonshire, England
[Holl Uw, Northumberland, England]

Civil Parish: Benfieldside
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthberts
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Lanchester
Sub-registration District: Consett
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4089
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Wilson 57
Thomas B Wilson 24
Mary A Wilson 21
Henry L Wilson 18
Matthew Wilson 16

And 1881

Matthew Wilson
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relationship to Head: Son
Mother: Hannah Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hole Row, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Benfieldside
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Green St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration District: Lanchester
Sub-registration District: Lanchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4944
Folio: 91
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Wilson 47
Elizabeth Wilson 17
Thos.B. Wilson 13
Mary Ann Wilson 16
Henry L. Wilson 8
Matthew Wilson 6

1871 same family, this time with father:
Thos Browell Wilson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Matthew Wilson
Mother's Name: Hannah Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Corbridge, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Shotley Low Quarter
Ecclesiastical parish: Shotley
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration District: Hexham
Sub-registration District: Bywell
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household Schedule Number: 34
Piece: 5142
Folio: 16
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Wilson 45
Hannah Wilson 37
Elisabeth Wilson 6
Thos Browell Wilson 3
Margaret Ann Wilson 11 Months




Flip

Flip Report 26 Oct 2013 11:20

This is likely to be the parents marriage (note middle name of Thos)

Hannah Browell
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1863
Registration District: Hexham
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 378
Records on Page: Name
Hannah Browell <<<
George Darrie
Matthew Wilson <<<