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15 Oct 2013 12:33 |
possible death
Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close Name: CRONAN, Humphrey Registration district: Guildford County: Surrey Year of registration: 1881 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 36 Volume no: 2A Page no: 40
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15 Oct 2013 12:38 |
1891 census transcription details for: 35, Oxford Street, Preston
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3440 Folio: 96 Page: 52 Reg. District: Preston Sub District: St John Parish: Preston Enum. District: 5 Ecclesiastical District: St James City/Municipal Borough: Preston Address: 35, Oxford Street, Preston County: Lancashire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born CRONAN, Margaret Head Widow>>>>>> F 47 1844 Charwoman Ireland CRONAN, Winfred Daughter Single F 24 1867 Domestic Servant Liverpool, Lancashire FOX, Richard Lodger Married M 21 1870 Car Conductor Preston, Lancashire FOX, Ruth Lodger Married F 27 1864 Machinist Underclothing Preston, Lancashire
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15 Oct 2013 13:30 |
This explains Humphry's imprisonment:
Humphrey Cronan Date of Trial: 17 Feb 1879 Trial Year: 1879 Location of Trial: Lancashire, England Sentence: Imprisonment Crime: See Image Date of Execution or Release: See I
He was given 5 years for Larceny from a ship.
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15 Oct 2013 14:29 |
It gets more fascinating! I think Humphreys mother was a peddler from Ireland, lodging in Liverpool with three of her children, one of whom was Humphrey
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15 Oct 2013 17:46 |
Yes, I can see that 1851 census - Mary (born Antrim) a "visitor" with children John (Ireland) Humphrey and Ellen (Liverpool), so you are not buying the info that he was born in Kent then?
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25 Oct 2013 13:30 |
Thank you so much for the info on Cronans and Matthews from which we have now been able to build up a picture. We are, however, now stuck on my husbands mothers side! She was Margaret Wilson born 1910 in Preston. Her parents were Matthew Wilson born 1874 in Hexham, Northumberland and Margaret Throup born 1882. With Throup being an unusual name you would think we could easily find her birth, but we can't! Also we can't find anything more about Matthew Wilson. I would think Margaret Throup was born in Lancashire. Any ideas please? Thank you in advance!
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25 Oct 2013 13:38 |
Don't know where you've looked.................this is from LancsBMD, which I told you about on page one of this thread
You really should put it in your favourites, and use it
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1909 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WILSON Margaret East Preston Preston THROUP EP/13/99
If you've only tried freebmd.........MMN isn't on the index till after 1911
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25 Oct 2013 13:42 |
1911 census
Person: WILSON, Margaret Address: 48 High St Preston
WILSON, Matthew Head Married M 37 1874 Joiner Hexham Northumberland VIEW WILSON, Margaret Wife Married4 years F 29 1882 Preston Lancashire VIEW WILSON, Jane Throup Daughter F 3 1908 Preston Lancashire VIEW WILSON, Hannah Daughter F 2 1909 Preston Lancashire VIEW WILSON, Margaret Daughter F 1 1910 Preston Lancashire VIEW WILSON, Henry Tumley Brother Single M 39 1872 Labourer Hexham Northumberland VIEW MORAN, Patrick Boarder Married M 49 1862 Farm Labourer Nase County Mayo
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25 Oct 2013 13:45 |
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
THROUP Margaret Trinity Preston THROUP TR/11/44
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25 Oct 2013 13:48 |
The marriage of her parents can easily be found on freebmd
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25 Oct 2013 13:49 |
Baptism: 3 May 1882 All Saints, Preston, Lancashire, England Margaret Throup - [Child] of Jane Throup Born: 4 Mar 1882 Abode: 15 Lancaster Road Occupation: Single woman Baptised by: Thos James Curate Register: Baptisms 1876 - 1900, Page 63, Entry 504 Source: FHL 1544765
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25 Oct 2013 13:50 |
1881 census
Person: THROUP, Jane Address: 6, Salmon St, Fishwick
EDELSTON, James Head Married M 42 1839 Cotton Manufacturer Preston, Lancashire VIEW EDELSTON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 43 1838 Longton, Lancashire VIEW EDELSTON, William Henry Son Single M 21 1860 Book Keeper (Cotton Mill) Preston, Lancashire VIEW EDELSTON, Peter Son Single M 18 1863 Book Keeper (Cotton Mill) Preston, Lancashire VIEW EDELSTON, Ada Daughter Single F 15 1866 Scholar Preston, Lancashire VIEW EDELSTON, James Jnr Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Preston, Lancashire VIEW EDELSTON, Thomas Dugald Son Single M 2 1879 Preston, Lancashire VIEW THROUP, Jane Servant Single F 20 1861 General & Domestic Garstang, Lancashire VIEW FIELDING, William Visitor Single M 23 1858 Designer (Artzn) Manchester, Lancashire
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25 Oct 2013 13:51 |
Baptism: 11 Nov 1860 St Thomas, Garstang, Lancashire, England Jane Throupe - Daughter of David Throupe & Margaret Abode: Garstang Occupation: Earthenware Dealer Baptised by: William Armitstead Register: Baptisms 1858 - 1880, Page 6, Entry 87 Source: LDS Film 1470930
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25 Oct 2013 13:52 |
1861 census
Person: THROUPE, Jane Address: Manor House, Garstang THROUPE, David Head Married M 25 1836 ... Dealer ..., Yorkshire VIEW THROUPE, Margaret Wife Married F 21 1840 ..., Lancashire VIEW THROUPE, John Son M 2 1859 ..., Lancashire VIEW THROUPE, Jane Daughter F 0 (5M) 1861 ..., Lancashire VIEW JENNISON, George Visitor Unmarried M 24 1837 ... Dealer Rendall, Westmorland
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25 Oct 2013 13:53 |
Marriage: 8 Aug 1857 St Helen, Garstang, Lancashire, England David Throup - 22, Earthen-ware Dealer, Bachelor, Garstang Margaret Howard - (X), 21, Spinster, Garstang Groom's Father: John Throup, Earthen-ware Dealer Bride's Father: John Howard, Earthen-ware Dealer Witness: Nicholas Billington; John Crane Married by Registrar's Certificate by: Thomas Carter M. A.Curate Register: Marriages 1856 - 1881, Page 16, Entry 31 Source: LDS Film 1278890
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25 Oct 2013 13:59 |
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1851 census
Person: THROUP, David Address: Village, West Riding, York
THROUP, John Head Married M 60 1791 Flour Dealer Long Preston, Yorkshire VIEW THROUP, Sarah Wife Married F 58 1793 Lancaster VIEW THROUP, John Son Unmarried M 25 1826 Weaver Cotton Long Preston, Yorkshire VIEW THROUP, David Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Weaver Cotton Long Preston, Yorkshire
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25 Oct 2013 15:00 |
Thank you so much! At the moment we can't sleep at night with so much info going round in our heads so it's fantastic that you've come up with all this! :-)
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25 Oct 2013 17:00 |
You're welcome............
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26 Oct 2013 11:17 |
A bit on Matthew, the brother on 1911 census is Henry Lumley Wilson according to the image, they are with their mother in 1891:
Matthew Wilson Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Hannah Wilson Gender: Male Where born: Holl Uw, Northamptonshire, England [Holl Uw, Northumberland, England] Civil Parish: Benfieldside Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthberts County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Lanchester Sub-registration District: Consett ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4089 Folio: 8 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Wilson 57 Thomas B Wilson 24 Mary A Wilson 21 Henry L Wilson 18 Matthew Wilson 16
And 1881
Matthew Wilson Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relationship to Head: Son Mother: Hannah Wilson Gender: Male Where born: Hole Row, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Benfieldside County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: 4 Green St Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration District: Lanchester Sub-registration District: Lanchester ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4944 Folio: 91 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Wilson 47 Elizabeth Wilson 17 Thos.B. Wilson 13 Mary Ann Wilson 16 Henry L. Wilson 8 Matthew Wilson 6 1871 same family, this time with father: Thos Browell Wilson Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Son Father's Name: Matthew Wilson Mother's Name: Hannah Wilson Gender: Male Where born: Corbridge, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Shotley Low Quarter Ecclesiastical parish: Shotley County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration District: Hexham Sub-registration District: Bywell ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household Schedule Number: 34 Piece: 5142 Folio: 16 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Matthew Wilson 45 Hannah Wilson 37 Elisabeth Wilson 6 Thos Browell Wilson 3 Margaret Ann Wilson 11 Months
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26 Oct 2013 11:20 |
This is likely to be the parents marriage (note middle name of Thos)
Hannah Browell Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1863 Registration District: Hexham Inferred County: Northumberland Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 378 Records on Page: Name Hannah Browell <<< George Darrie Matthew Wilson <<<
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