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patchem

patchem Report 19 Oct 2014 18:33

Geoff,

Just in case Valerie is not reading these boards every day (or even every week) I suggest you click on her name and send her a message.

Genes will notify her of your message (or should do if their system is working correctly), they do not notify people that there are new postings on the boards.

Also,
Welcome to the site, Geoff.

Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 19 Oct 2014 18:23

Valerie

I am Geoff Peters, Clfford's first cousin. My father Ronald Peters was Clfford's mother's brother.

I found out from this that Clifford died in 2003. It saddened me that he had died so young as I too had lost contact with him.

I knew that he was living on the Gold Coast. He moved there after Clifford Jnr was born in about 1983. Soon after his marriage broke up and Anna moved back to the UK with the children. Before this he was living in Dapto NSW where my family also lived, I now live in Canberra.

I remember when uncle Len and aunt Doris visited us a number of times in the 1970's he also visited a relative who lived in Penrith NSW. Are you that person?

I was close to Clifford during the years he lived in Dapto and could, if you wish give you quite a bit of information about this time. Please reply if you do.

Kind regards Geoff Peters

Valerie

Valerie Report 19 Jun 2014 08:52


Hi ArgyllGran,

I tried the Allambe Crematorium and a very nice lady emailed me straight back,
she told me that Clifford was cremated there on 29th May 2003- 5 days after he died but not interred their, his ashes were taken away so it may be he did have someone in his life. From here on I will be putting a notice in the local paper, who knows perhaps I may even find them as well.
All the best....Valerie

Valerie

Valerie Report 9 Jun 2014 09:40


Hello Island and Patchem.
Sorry, I haven't been on the site for a while and have just seen both your replies. Thanks.
Yes, I live in Western Australia and I know it is the same for Queensland unfortunately you have to have the next of kin's permission to send for the death certificate or wait for 30 years from the date of death. I don't think it will be possible as I am 70 now (but who knows!). I will still pursue my search by looking into some of the websites that ArgyllGran has given me and possibly try some crematoria as suggested.
So many thanks all round....Valerie

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2014 15:03

There's no mention of Clifford on this website::

http://austcemindex.com/index.php?surname=beard

According to an online map, Mudgeeraba would be the nearest cemetery to Robina.
List of Gold Coast Cemeteries here:
http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/community/cemeteries-by-suburb-356.html

He may have been cremated rather than buried, Valerie.
If he was cremated, this looks like the nearest crematorium:
http://www.allambe.com.au/driver.asp

As a crematorium, Allambe does not feature on the Australian Cemeteries Index (link above).
You said you've tried contacting funeral parlours - have you tried cemeteries and crematoria?

Island

Island Report 1 Jun 2014 12:29

Thanks patchem but the link is taking too long to open.

I was hoping Valerie might give a yay or nay answer.

I only asked because I had no problem with acquiring the death certificate (+birth and marriage) of a distant relative who died in 2004. No permission from next of kin or proof of relationship needed. All UK which is why I asked Valerie if the rules were different in Australia.
Also, I don't know if Valerie thinks she needs permission but may not.



patchem

patchem Report 1 Jun 2014 11:51

Island,

These appear to be the rules for deaths less than 30 years ago:

http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/58341/Certificate-Access-Policy.pdf

Island

Island Report 1 Jun 2014 10:57

Valerie, I'm sorry your search had a sad outcome but I'm curious to know why you need permission from the family to apply for the death certificate? Is this an Australian ruling?

Valerie

Valerie Report 1 Jun 2014 09:06


Thanks FAIRTHORN

I have sent an email to the address you have given me, crossing my fingers that they can help me out.
Regards Valerie

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 23 May 2014 10:03

http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/library/robina-10105.html

They have a community notice board & newspapers
as you have his DOD they may have newspaper archives
OR ask if they would put a notice on the board.






:-)

Valerie

Valerie Report 23 May 2014 06:26

I thought perhaps I could call once again to ask if there is somebody living in Queensland especially near Robina in the Gold Coast area who may of known my nephew Clifford C.J Beard who died in 24th May 2003 in Robina.

All I would like to know is if that person could tell me where Clifford was laid to rest and what Cemetary he is in as I have tried everything even tracing the local Funeral Parlours (a fruitless task) they wouldn't be able to let me know even if they conducted the service because of the Privacy Act.

As I am unalble to get permission from his daughter in the U.K for his death certificate and after trying absolutely all that I can to find his funeral notice in the local papers, (they don't keep any archives) I thought I would send this thread.
Thank you in anticipation.....Valerie from Western Australia.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 May 2014 11:27

A bitter sweet ending, but at least as you say you have closure. Thank you for taking the time to let us know.

Valerie

Valerie Report 12 May 2014 07:46


I asked the Salvation Army here in Australia to find my Nephew Clifford Beard b1951 last November (2013) and they have found out that he had died on 24th May 2003 in Robina, Gold Coast of Australia. Apart from being saddened by this it has given me closure. I have informed his ex-wife and daughter who went back to the UK about 1981 and hope that in time they will give me permission to send for his death certificate as I am not the next of kin. It has taken me a long time for this information. I live on the opposite of the country in Western Australia. I don't think that there is a way around obtaining the certificate otherwise. His ex-wife and daughter have not had contact with him for about 20 years, so I do hope that they will give me permission.
Thanks to all those on G.R for their past help.....Valerie

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 31 Aug 2013 09:50

Thank for the update.

Its a shame that the family have lost contact, but at least you have gained a neice. <3

patchem

patchem Report 31 Aug 2013 08:43

Pleased that you have made contact with Vanessa, but so sad about her loss of contact with her Father.
Hope your search leads to a successful outcome.

You could alter your title to include 'Australia' which might attract extra help?

Valerie

Valerie Report 31 Aug 2013 08:04


Rose,
Have made contact with Vanessa on this website like you suggested. She is the daughter of my nephew Clifford, hooray! It seems that Vanessa, her mother and there was a baby brother named after his dad all went back to the UK in about 1981 and stayed. My nephew stayed on here which seems very sad because they split up. Clifford's mother Dorris apparently came to Australia to be with her only son. They were living over in Queensland where she died about 20 years ago. I live in Western Australia so was unaware of all this until now. The last contact Vanessa had with her father was when she was 18 that was about 19 to 20 years ago. She says she will post me some photos which I look forward to.
My next task is to find Clifford here perhaps in Queensland so I had a look at the Queensland White Pages but no Clifford C.J Beard, perhaps the Salvation Army might be the next to contact.
Thanks for the information Rose....Valerie

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 17 Aug 2013 09:26

Vanessa added her name to this site a while ago. Look at Search All Member Trees.

Rose

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Aug 2013 09:04

Vanessa A Beard was born in 1976. Can't see a UK marriage

There is a person of that name on the 2013 UK ER which will be sent by PM. As there is no guarentee it is the same person, any correspondence should be couched accordingly.

Valerie

Valerie Report 17 Aug 2013 08:13

Hi Patchem,

So sorry, should not of mentioned leads from GR members I incorrectly added that before realising that the leads I have had are only from the members above and putting what I did has confused things. I have been with G.R since 2004 and should know better.
Sorry Patchem.

patchem

patchem Report 17 Aug 2013 06:59

Where you have put that
' I have a few leads from G.R members '
do you mean that some people have sent pm's to you?

If so, could you indicate what those leads are, to stop others from duplicating the research?
Thank-you