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Hi Patricia,

Good morning from Christchurch.

I can feel your strength coming through now. Well done. You will get there, but it a long slow business.

So the lady that registered you had the name Shepherd - did you go to school from her house and when did you and she part company? Did you then go to another family from a placement?

All advice on here is for you and in your interest.

Keep us informed.

Good luck,

Sappho

Kay. Thank you for irish missing web , will try. Pat

The lady who looked after me and registered me was called Shepherd, and i took her name.

Patricia the records will have been archived even though the hospital is no longer there,,,,,,,,we can find out who has custody of them if you know the name of the hospital.

Do you know why the person that brought you up,,,,,,included the surname Shepherd into your birth registration?

Edit---------I'm sure things were about that you were not told of...

Thank you all , In al the years never had so much help. My So called mother never registered me before she left. The lady who looked after me did but with very little information.she also had me baptised at the local Catholic church . Her family were not catholic she just thought to was right. Went to the church for help but even less info. Three Hammersmith hospitals at the time ,not the one near scrubs . The baby hospital a couple of miles away was pulled down many years ago. Will come back later .Thank you Pat

Kay????

Have had a look at the Irish Site. This is so good and would be great if Patricia went there. Alternatively, the hospital in Hammersmith would hold the details of the person who gave birth to you Patricia and you should give that a try.

Patricia, please let us know what you have tried so far and the results.

Sappho
Just off to bed now goodnight!

Patricia,

I seriously suggest you go to SS as a lot of speculation can lead to heartache and I feel you have this at present.

I think your mother must have been in turmoil when she left you, but it is important to start from the beginning.

Good to know the convent is still in Portobello Road; just goes to show you think you know an area, but they may know of the incident.

There really are some good comments here and SS and you need to study your birth certificate again as Fairthorn states - it gives you the best first leads.

Sappho

Kemp Patricia hasnt met any relatives,,,,,its a story she has been told......

The hospital is next to the Scrubs-------the convant is still on Portabello Road,,,,,,,,its still a mystery after just leaving you,you were found and someone just knew who to return you to!,,,,Frances Sullivan,,,,as left babies are just left and no one knows who they belong to.,,,,they become foundlings,,,,,


The Foundlings museum dont hold modern day records,,,,this was 1948.....

I cant see how some "elderly neighbour " just kept you!!

So if she just kept you when was your birth registered?


There is a "foundling" museum in London they may help with unwinding your story If she left your older sister with her parents are you still in contact with her?

On certificates it states who the informant is from the data given to the registrar & including their current address ??

So this was definitely done by the neighbour.

:-S

I think something isnt right here,,,,,

I think you need to seek the help of SS to gain what the hospital records can reveal.

Patricia-----this is the Irish web address for missing people where you can widen your search with placing a message incase she returned to Ireland......

www.MIssing.WS.

www(dot)Missing (dot)WS


EDIT>>>There are two marriages 1949 in Pancres and 1951 in Woolwich,one as Frances and one as Frances P.

Also your birth is registered under two surnames,,,,,,,,Shepherd and Sullivan.?

Patricia,

Now can we start with confirming that you are trying to trace your half sibling or your mother or both?

Can you confirm who brought you up; where you went to school; a file held by Social Services on you yes/no? We need guidance from you what you hope from this.

Your emotions are being felt here and we wish to help. We cannot without some more guidelines.

I grew up in Westbourne Grove, London W.11 and there was a house two doors along belonging to the Catholic Church - it was where the nuns resided. I do not know of the Portobello Convent. I think you could check out the Portobello Road convent to see if they hold any records of the story you have been told. Check online to see the address before you make a journey.

I find it hard to believe that the neighbour 'solely' would have been able to register your birth without some sort of supervision by the authorities - it would be most unusual even then. The neighbour must have been involved in some way to be allowed to do this. There was also a house in Westbourne Grove call Family Service Unit, now taken over by Samaritans I think. Being in NZ I have lost touch, but I would contact these agencies in the local area to see if they can help.

I still think that if the story of Frances Sullivan from Waterford is true, then with a name and place you should start with that - search All Records and then Search Trees. With records try guessing the age.

Good luck,

Sappho

Social Services did not find out about me until i was 11 years old. The elderly neighbour just kept me and she registered my birth with not much information.

Has there been any information that Social Services could get from the hospital where you were born from her admission paperwork....you must have been returned to her after she left you the second time.,,,,,,,,who was responsible for that.?

I have been told by people who lived in the same street as my mother, that she left Waterford where she had a child 2 years before me. She said her name was Frances Sullivan. Left baby with her parents. She rented a room in Notting Hill after leaving Hospital.From that moment she had no time for me, and within days had left me on Wormwood Scrubs ( grounds of a large prison )The next time was outside a convent in Portabella Road.The last time she asked a neighbour to look after me so she could go to the shops, never returned and had taken all her cloths.

could you please ask again, i will stay with threads. Need a young child to help me. Sorry

Now that you have found your way back, could you answer the questions for all of us?

How do you know about your sibling, and have you tried to find any further information about them or about your Mother and her family?

Thank-you

Just found all your replies , sorry not good on computor did not know where to look.

Have just pm Patricia on how to get back on thread as you have done AmazingGrace08 on here.

Patricia replied to my thread question (birth cert) direct to me by pm and I encouraged her to get back on thread.

This is to clarify for helpers.

Sappho

Hello helpers,

I have not been able to get back on this thread until today.

I have asked Patricia to come back onto this thread, but I think she needs help to do this.

Patricia replied directly to me by pm when I asked if she had her birth certificate. She has the cert.

I think she should come back and tell you that it gave no information, I replied by asking her to return to the thread and relay the short info to the thread.

Patricia - you need to come back on here so we can help you. PLEASE DO THIS asap.

Sappho