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I have obtained the marriage certificate from Ireland which showed that they were married on Monday 29th April 1907 at The Roman Catholic Church SS Peter & Paul (Ireland).
They had three children John Gerard Murtagh Born 29 June 1920, who married twice and had four children. Patrick Murtagh (yet to find DOB in Ireland) who died in Kendal 25th Sep 1928 aged 20 yrs. Margaret Murtagh DOB 24/1910 who married Jack Landon 28th February 1934 at St Jospephs RC Church Longsight. (see Jack Landon & Margaret Landon (Nee Murtagh) thread started 25th February 2014.
Thank you to all who have responded - much appreciated.

Hi,

Been trying to find the details that you have listed above online in relation to John Murtagh and Jane Lawlors marriage in Dublin North, Ireland. Could you please advise of the link that you got this from please so I can research further please.
Gail

No................they have to be applied for in Ireland, where the event was registered

google "Irish bmd"

Thank you.

Can Dublin Marriage Certificates be obtained through the same Records Office in London?

Marriages Sep 1941 (>99%)

Holman Zena M Murtagh Barrow F. 8e 2471
Murtagh John G Holman Barrow F. 8e 2471

Deaths Dec 1944 (>99%)
Murtagh Zena M 24 Ulverston 8e 913

No children........................

Four children born to second wife...........details on freebmd.

Marriages Jun 1934 (>99%)
Murtagh Margaret Landon Manchester S. 8d 469

Look for children on freebmd.......................

Death

Name: LANDON, Margaret
Registration district: Trowbridge
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1996
Month of registration: March
Date of Birth:24 October 1910
District no: 7971
Reg no: 19C
Ent no: 261
DOR: 396


Death
Name: LANDON, Jack
Registration district: Trowbridge
County: Wiltshire
Year of registration: 1987
Month of registration: February
Date of Birth:28 July 1906
Volume no: 23
Page no: 2505
Reg no: 287

This looks promising.................although I have no direct experience of Irish BMD records, and do not know whether the image number is hugely significant..............


Name: John Murtagh
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: Apr - Jun 1907
Event Place: Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1907
Registration District: Dublin North
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 507
GS Film number: 101261
Digital Folder Number: 004199363
Image Number: 00216



Name: Jane Lawlor
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: Apr - Jun 1907
Event Place: Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1907
Registration District: Dublin North
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 507
GS Film number: 101261
Digital Folder Number: 004199363
Image Number: 00208

He could be one of these..........................but no way of knowing until you find a marriage and get the cert

John Murtagh
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
birth: 16 September 1875 Dublin, Ireland
residence: 1875 Ireland
parents: Peter Murtagh, Margaret Mc Cormack

John Murtagh
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
birth: 22 November 1877 Dublin, Ireland
residence: 1877 Ireland
parents: John Murtagh, Margaret Murtagh Connor
John Murtagh
Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

1901

Residents of a house 3 in Kilbarrack Upper (Howth, Dublin)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Cox David 15 Male Boarder Roman Catholic Longford Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Murtagh John 23 Male Boarder Roman Catholic City Dublin Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Alice 16 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Baldoyle - Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Eliza 20 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Baldoyle - Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Richard 58 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Sowrds, Co Dublin Agricultural Labourer Read only - Married -
Fagan Christopher 11 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan James 18 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Michael 25 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Agricultural Labour Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan John 28 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Agricultural Labour Cannot read - Not Married -
Fagan Dan 14 Male Son Roman Catholic Baldoyle Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Not Married -
Fagan Esther 56 Female Wife Roman Catholic Baldoyle - Read only - Married -
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Your estimate of John's birth does not match the census info

The son John Gerard was not born until 1920 - he married in 1941 and 1945. info is on freebmd

DOB's are not on certs before 1969

You may have to settle for knowing the year of his birth

Residents of a house 2 in Carrickhill (Malahide, Dublin)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Murtagh John 29 Male Head of Family R Catholic Co Dublin Agrl Labourer Read and write - Married - 5 2 2
Murtagh Jane 26 Female Wife R Catholic Co Dublin - Read and write - Married - 5 2 2
Murtagh Magret 1 Female Son R Catholic Co Dublin - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Gill Hugh 47 Male Daughter R Catholic Co Dublin - - - Single - - - -
Murtagh Patrick 2 Male Boarder R Catholic Co Dublin Agl Labourer Read and write - Singl

Ignore some of the info..................the transcription of some of it is ludicrous.

Corrections submitted

Suggest you look at the Irish 1901 and 1911 censuses............free on line.

Is this PATRICK?

Deaths Sep 1928 (>99%)
Murtagh Patrick 20 Kendal 10b 687

Deaths Mar 1952 (>99%)
MURTAGH Jane 69 Barrow F. 10b 214

Thank you

I have managed to trace his buriel and the dates but cannot get any further records for him as his death certificate in the IOM prior to his transportation to Barrow for buriel does not state his date of birth. Therefore the archives people say that they cannot furnish me with any more details.

Try.............

https://familysearch.org/


Barrow in Furness was in Lancashire until 1974

I am unsure where he married, but am informed that it is likely to be In Howth in Dublin before moving to Barrowinfurness in Cumbria. I am trying totrack down his actual date of birth. I do know that he was Roman Catholic.

Gail Murtagh (Isle of Man)