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hi, many many thanks for all your reply's your quick response was amazing thank you for finding out about Phillip,its the first time we have had any news about Betsy,we had no idea of her married name until today thanks kindest regards Chris.

Just for ref. as i was trying to work out the older brother William (husband of Eva)
1901 England Census
William Jordan Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Jordan
Gender: Male Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Tunstall Ecclesiastical parish: Tunstall St Mary
Town: Tunstall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Registration District: Wolstanton Sub-registration District: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household Schedule Number: 161 Piece: 2590 Folio: 176
Page Number: 30
William Jordan 31
Martha Jordan 30
Edward Jordan 2
Betsy Jordan 11 Months
Susannah Baggley 26
Emily Baggley 22
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2590; Folio: 176; Page: 30.

In view of when he was born, and rough location, this might be his death? I recommend you get the birth cert to find out his birth date:

Name: Philip Jordan
Birth Date: 6 Nov 1916
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1979
Age at Death: 62
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1028

Jan

Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Jordon Philip Baggaley Wolstanton 6b 225

You can get accurate names from FreeBMD:

Betsey was Elizabeth Betsey:

Births Jun 1900
Jordan Elizabeth Betsy Wolstanton 6b 114

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Jordan Elizabeth B Tolley Doncaster 9c 1707

No sign of a birth for a Philip.

Rose

Martha's maiden name was Baggley:

Marriages Dec 1895
Baggley Martha Wolstanton 6b 212
Jordan William Wolstanton 6b 212

Births Dec 1912
Jordan Winifred Baggley Wolstanton 6b 318

Rose

Phillips siblings were born in Burslem Stoke-on-Trent Staffordshire. Their mother was Martha Jordan( nee)Baggaley.Thank you,Chris.

thank you for replying. Betsy birth 1901 Winifred birth 1912 Phillip's father William. birth 1870 .All the census show Betsy as her name and not short for Elizabeth.Thank you kind regards,Chris

Were the sisters really Winnie and Betsey or Winifred and Elizabeth?

Rose

Do you know when and where his siblings were born?
Jan

do you have the parents names?

Chris,

Can you list when William, Betsy and Wiinnie were born?

Rose

looking for living relatives of Philip Jordan lived in Stoke-on-Trent as a child moved to Newcastle up on Tyne. As a young adult lived with Eva and William Jordan, william was his older brother.He then left Newcastle Upon Tine to live with his sisters in Doncaster. The sisters were Winnie and Betsy Jordan.Jordan being their maiden name.we think Philip was born after 1912 as we can not find him on any census. Any help with this subject would be gratefully received many thanks Chris