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Lorraine Karen
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6 Nov 2012 00:36 |
Looking for living relatives please:
Violet Alice L Jezard Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1890 Registration district: Kensington Inferred County: London Volume: 1a Page: 146
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6 Nov 2012 03:11 |
Can you explain who her parents were and whether you have found her in census records?
Are you asking because you've been unable to find a trace of her since?
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Penny
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6 Nov 2012 05:50 |
born 1890. unikely to be alive.
so what mored o you know of her?
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Penny
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6 Nov 2012 05:54 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1313542
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patchem
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6 Nov 2012 07:11 |
I hope you have carefully saved all the information from the threads that you have deleted.
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ErikaH
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6 Nov 2012 10:27 |
Deleting threads to which people have devoted time and effort in helping you is not the way to behave, and will mean that members are unwilling to try to help you again
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6 Nov 2012 10:33 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Violet Alice Louise Jezard Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 12 Jul 1896 Father's Name: George Jezard Mother's name: May Jezard Parish or Poor Law Union: Kensington St Philip Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Register Type: Parish Registers
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Lorraine Karen
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6 Nov 2012 16:32 |
Reggie and Patchem
Please note GR deleted the first duplicate thread on Find Living Relatives without warning as it had been reported as a duplicate thread, so I asked if that thread could be reinstated to move over posts to Finding Ancestors - and unfortunately no.
So the same didn't happen to the other duplicate thread on Find Living Relatives I moved across any research to the Finding Ancestors threads and then deleted the second Find Living Ancestors thread so that further posts would not entered and then again deleted without warning.
While I appreciate your research it is a learning curve using a new system.
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Lorraine Karen
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6 Nov 2012 16:55 |
Hello Penny Thank you for your post.
All we know about Violet are her:
BAPTISM DETAILS NAME: Violet Alice Louise Jezard MOTHER: May Jezard FATHER: George Jezard BIRTH: Kensington St Philip BAPTISM: 12 July 1896 - Kensington St Philip
1901 CENSUS DETAILS Violet A L Gezard [Violet A L Jezard] BIRTH: abt 1892 - Earls Court, London, England RESIDENCE: 1901 - Prittlewell, Essex, England
Horace Courtenay is also staying at the boarding school and is related to Violet (but we don't know how). Horace never mentioned Violet during his lifetime (Horace died in 1959) and Horace's son Michael doesn't know of a Violet in the family. We are really trying to trace these families for Michael as he believes he is from a virtually extinct family - would be good to find any of his family for him.
After that there is no trace of Violet?
We are currently waiting for Violet's birth certificate to arrive to see if any further information comes to light as the Thrasher/Jezard/Courtenay family are related.
Thank you Lorraine
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Lorraine Karen
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6 Nov 2012 16:58 |
Hello Rose Thank you for your post.
Please see above post (parents details and census details).
After that she disappears!
Thank you for your help. Lorraine
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Penny
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6 Nov 2012 17:39 |
How do you know that Horace & Violet are related if you dont know how they are related?
1901 - they are both boarders, no suggestion that they are related
Name: Agnes Shepherd Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Prittlewell Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Rochford Sub-registration district: Prittlewell ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 205 Piece: 1680 Folio: 91 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Shepherd 63 Agnes C G H Shepherd 29 Elizabeth Shepherd 28 Joseph H Shepherd 25 Louise Heerst 17 Kate Chambers 16 Elizabeth J Fisher 16 Mary Fisher 14 Maud M Cardwell 15 Dorothy B Roulston 14 Constance E Roulston 13 Margaret Calderbank 15 Constance Ward 14 Violet A L Gezard 9 Horace Courtenay 7 Florence M Valentine 16
just at a school at which they appear to board
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Lorraine Karen
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6 Nov 2012 17:55 |
Hello Penny
(Edward) Leslie Court is Horace Courtenay's cousin (we have Edward Leslie Court's birth certificate and Edward's mother's maiden name is Ruth Jezard - Ruth and Grace are sisters). We don't know at this stage which relation George Jezard is to Ruth Jezard.
Ruth Jezard married as a spinster as Jezard Ruth's birth maiden name is actually Thrasher - her mother Priscilla remarried from Thrasher to Jezard
Grace Courtenay married as a spinster as Courtenay (she has an illegitimate son called Horace Courtenay) Grace's birth maiden name is actually Thrasher Grace may have used Jezard - her mother Priscilla remarried from Thrasher to Jezard
1911 CENSUS Name: Leslie Court Age in 1911: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905 Relation to Head: Nephew Gender: Male Birth Place: Fulham, London, England Civil parish: Kew County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: 31 Bushwood Road, Kew Registration district: Richmond Registration District Number: 41 Sub-registration district: Richmond ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Household schedule number: 137 Piece: 3603
1911 CENSUS Name: Horace Courtenay Age in 1911: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Relation to Head: Step Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Earls Court, London, England Civil parish: Kew County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: 31 Bushwood Road, Kew Marital Status: Single Occupation: Clerk Stock Broker Registration district: Richmond Registration District Number: 41 Sub-registration district: Richmond ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Household schedule number: 137 Piece: 3603
1911 CENSUS Name: Grace Solomon Age in 1911: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Holborn, London, England Civil parish: Kew County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: 31 Bushwood Road, Kew Marital Status: Married Years married: 10 Estimated Marriage Year: 1901 Registration district: Richmond Registration District Number: 41 Sub-registration district: Richmond ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Household schedule number: 137 Piece: 3603
Thank you Lorraine
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Nov 2012 17:58 |
You say the Thrasher family are connected to the Jezard's
On the same day that Violet was baptised the next entry is for Horace son of Percy & Louisa Thresher/Thrasher and BOTH families lived at 133 Finsboro Road Percy is listed as a C Clerk and George Jezard is listed as steward on P & O.
Looks like it was a joint christening.
Cant see May or George on any census or a marriage for them
Name: Horace Thresher Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 12 Jul 1896 Father's Name: Percy Thresher Mother's name: Louisa Thresher Parish or Poor Law Union: Kensington St Philip Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Register Type: Parish Registers the actual road is Finsborough the vicar has abbreviated it
------------------------- Births Mar 1893 Thrasher Horace Fulham 1a 318
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Nov 2012 18:11 |
133 Finsborough road isnt listed in 1901.tried an address search
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6 Nov 2012 18:18 |
Shirley and Penny and Rose, You are repeating information that has already been found on one or another of the posts. Suggest you look at whatever Lorraine has moved over to another query.
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Lorraine Karen
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7 Nov 2012 00:20 |
Hello Shirley
The road is Finborough Road.
Yes we've looked too for George and May's wedding and on any censuses - also without success.
These families - Thrashers/Threshers/Atkins & Jezards & Courtenays have a habit of changing their names!
See what Violet's birth certificate will bring - it's on order and should be here soon.
Thanks Lorraine
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Lorraine Karen
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17 Nov 2012 12:12 |
The General Register Office has not been able to process our request for Violet's birth certificate, as the parents we quoted (George Jezard and May Jezard from Violet's baptism were incorrect), so we are going to resubmit the request without the parent check this time. We have tried to find George and May in various official records but to no avail - as George was a P&O steward a very plausible suggestion is that they were out of the country when they got married and that is why they are not listed on various official records. However, they could also be 'false' parents.
As we already know that the baby baptised after Violet at St Phillip's Church, Earls Court, Kensington, Horace Thresher his baptism parents Percy Thresher and Louisa Thresher are not married (they get married in 1905) and are actually called Percy Atkins and Louisa Thrasher, we will also order Horace Thrasher's birth certificate without a parent check.
In the 1911 census Percy Atkins and Louisa Atkins although technically accurate, do not mention that they have a child of their marriage or have lost a child of their marriage - however, they still do not mention Horace Thrasher/Thresher's birth at all and no Horace is living with them or can be found living elsewhere in the 1911 census.
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