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After four years of research I have traced my Grandmothers family, but am nowhere close to tracing my Grandfather Charles Walter Adams born 1860? and married to Eliza Mary Smith. They produced children Dorothy known as Dolly, Peter, John ,Charles Walter Jnr my Father, Sidney, Douglas, Esther Victoria, Elizabeth and Frederick.

When did the marriage take place?
Jan

This isn't the marriage is it? A bit too late I think!

Marriages Mar 1922 (>99%)
ADAMS Charles W Smith Wandsworth 1d 759
SMITH Eliza M Adams Wandsworth 1d 759

Jan

Maybe the above is right, if they married well after birth of Esther, assuming this is her:

Name: Hester V Adams
Mother: Smith
Birth: Jun 1913 - Wandsworth, London

This is indeed my family. They had eight children before marrying in 1922 and had one after. He always stated that he was born in Leighton Buzzard but his information on his first marriage certificate to Margaret Rosenberg and the information given when he married Eliza was different. Which is the fact we do not know.

On the first marriage certificate he stated that his Father was Joseph a florist, but on the second his Father was William a railway worker. We know for sure that they are both him as we know who he married the first time. Puzzling. We wonder if he was an immigrant and tried to cover it up.

I assume Charles' age and occupation match for both certs?
jan

This is Walter Charles rather than Charles Walter - are you sure you have the right man?

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
Adams Walter Charles Islington 1b 439
ROSENBERG Margaret Islington 1b 439

Jan

1901 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 5 De Laune St
Civil Parish Newington
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Newington S Mary
Parliamentary Borough or Division West Division Of Newington
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Southwark
Administrative County London

Householder 1
Name Charles W Adams
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 44
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Chef Hotel
Employment Status
Where Born Beds Leighton Buzzard
Language
Infirmity

Householder 2
Name Kathleen M Adams
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 12
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Islington
Language
Infirmity

Householder 3
Name Margaret Adams
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 54
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Ireland
Language
Infirmity

Householder 4
Name Frederick Rosenburg
Relation to Head of Family Step Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Mile End
Language
Infirmity

So Margaret was also married twice



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POSSIBLE

Births Jun 1889
Adams Kathleen Margaret Q Islington 1b 267

Marriages Mar 1923
Adams Kathleen M Q Packham Southwark 1d 173
Packham William H Adams Southwark 1d 173


1911 Census Record
Personal Information
Name Kathleen Adams
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Condition Single
Gender F
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1890
Occupation Staff Maid
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Islington London

1891 England Census
Name: Frederick A Rosenberg
Mother: Margaret Adams
Birth: abt 1882 - city, London, England
Residence: 1891 - township, city, London, England

Above from ANCESTRY ( no subscription ) can not find on GR ( must be AGAIN mistranscribed ) :-S

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Births Sep 1881
Rosenberg Frederick Augustus Mile End 1c 542


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