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27 Aug 2012 10:36 |
Hello, my name is Lawrence Watson. I've been doing extensive research on my family's genealogy. I'm hoping to find some living relatives, specifically those of you in England. I'm not British, I was born in the United States. However, I am hopeful that there is family for me in England and here's why...
My great-grandparents Percy Bowden Watson and Ada Alberta Fugler came to the U.S. after having been married in England in 1907 and 1910 respectively. However, the rest of their siblings remained in the UK to my knowledge. Aging letters that remain in my family possession seem to confirm this. I will provide information below that I do know and hopefully if you recognize any names or anything, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Siblings of Percy Bowden Watson:
Frederick William Splatt Watson (1870 - ?) I don't know much about him except he was married to a woman named Elizabeth Durell.
Alfred Splatt Watson (1872 - 1959) I know he lived in Portsmouth, Hampshire and was married to a woman named Beatrice Hutchings. They had several children: Beatrice, Violet, Alfred, Thomas, Frederick, Lillian, Holly and Winifred.
Rodney John Splatt Watson (1877 - 1931) I don't believe he ever married or had children.
Philip Owen Symonds Watson (1882 - 1960) I know he lived in Plymouth and was a school teacher for more than 30 years. He was married twice. First to a woman named Mabel Organ and then to a woman named Dulcie Burke. Letters from he to my great-grandfather mention "children", though I only know of one child born before 1911. Howard Watson who was born in 1906.
Siblings of Ada Alberta Fugler:
Richard John Johns Fugler (1874 - 1900) Married to a woman named Maryann Giles and had one child, Winifred.
Bertha Louise Fugler (1879 - 1908) Married to a man named William G. Rowe. They had a son, Leslie Leo Rowe (1912 - 1963).
Clara Fugler (1882 - 1940) Married to Arthur N. Ryley. They had a daughter named Mabel Ryley (1915 - 2001)
Cora Mabel Fugler (1884 - 1980) Married to a man named William J. Scantlebury. Had a son named Clifford Scantlebury (1911 - 1982).
Norman Arthur Fugler (1888 - 1968) I don't know if he was married or not. Have no information other than birth-death dates.
Leopold Algernon Fugler (1890 - 1933) Unknown if married. I do know that he left Cornwall where the rest of the family had come from and moved to Toronto, Canada.
I'm very sorry if this thread has been far too long, but I'm hopeful with the information I've provided I could find any among you who are related to me. Best regards.
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brummiejan
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27 Aug 2012 10:39 |
Welcome to the boards Lawrence. First thing you need to do is to go looking. Go to search box above right where you will find 'search all trees'. You can then put in details of the family members you have. This will tell you of any matches with other members' trees.. You can then send a message to the tree owner. Good luck! Jan
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Lawrence
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28 Aug 2012 02:15 |
No luck so far...
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brummiejan
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28 Aug 2012 08:49 |
That's unlucky Lawrence - you have some impressive names there don't you! I wonder if this is Clifford's marriage - I see he is Clifford James.
Name: Clifford James Scantlebury Birth: 6 Jun 1911 Death: Dec 1982 - Plymouth, Devon, England
Name: Clifford J Scantlebury Spouse Lilian M Stock Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1939 Registration district: Aldershot Inferred County: Hampshire Volume Number: 2c Page Number: 1177
There is a comment by someone on Ancestry that Lilian's middle name is Margery, in which case:
Name: Lilian Margery Scantlebury Birth: 9 Feb 1916 Death: May 1995 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
They had one son Christopher j. , You can find the birth record easily so I won't put that here. If he married, there are only 3 possibilities, all to women with equally unusual names - what a family, trying to help you I think! I assume from your extensive research that you are a member of FMP or Ancestry so can research this without me!
With unusual names like this, have you considered looking at BT online or 192.com? I would be tempted just to look for all Scattlebury's and Foglers in or around Devon!
Jan
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2012 08:59 |
1911 census
Person: FUGLER, Norman Arthur Institution: Hogue Military details: Sick Birth
FUGLER, Norman Arthur Single ? 23 1888 Sick Berth Attendant Cornwall Veryan
SBA is a Royal Navy Rank
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2012 09:06 |
Are you aware of freebmd?
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%) Fugler Norman A Keats Dorchester 5a 1032 Keats Linda A M Fugler Dorchester 5a 1032
Name: Linda A M Fugler Birth Date: abt 1893 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1961 Age at Death: 68 Registration district: Plymouth Inferred County: Devon Volume: 7a Page: 628 England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Linda Annie May Fugler Probate Date: 2 Oct 1961 Death Date: 22 Aug 1961 Death Place: Devon, England Registry: Birmingham, England
Died at Freedom Fields Hospital, Plymouth
Administration to Norman Arthur Fugler, (husband) retired Petty Officer, RN
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2012 09:08 |
My Ancestry sub doesn't allow me to view the following record, or any of the other US records about him
Leopold Algernon Fugler Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
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Outward from UK..................
FUGLER Leopold 1890 M 1912 Bristol Canada Halifax VIEW VIEW
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Name: Leopold Fugler Birth Date: abt 1890 Age: 30 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 18 Apr 1920 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ports of Voyage: Plymouth Ship Name: Royal George Search Ship Database: View the 'Royal George' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Cunard Line Official Number: 120643
Also travelling.............................
Louie, aged 29, housewife
Richard, aged 5 Leopold, aged 3 Norman, aged 18 months
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2012 09:23 |
Births Mar 1900 (>99%) Fugler Winifred Johns Devonport 5b 310
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2012 09:30 |
Births Mar 1906 (>99%) Watson Howard Norman O Plymouth 5b 211
Marriages Dec 1936 (>99%) Ronson Miriam Watson Devonport 5b 833 Watson Howard N O Ronson Devonport 5b 833
You can look yourself for children on freebmd
.England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Howard Norman Owen Watson Probate Date: 8 May 1939 Death Date: 20 Apr 1939 Death Place: Plymouth, Devon, England Registry: Bodmin
Administration to widow
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PricklyHolly
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28 Aug 2012 09:31 |
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription First Name: LEOPOLD Last Name: FUGLER Title: Collections from: United Kingdom Category: Immigration & Travel Record collection: Migration Record set: Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Departure Day: 17 Departure Month: 4 Departure Year: 1912 Ship Departure Port: BRISTOL Destination Port: HALIFAX State: Country: CANADA Destination Place: HALIFAX Destination Place Country: CANADA Birth Day: Birth Month: Birth Year: 1890 Age Transcribed: 22 Marital Status: Gender: M Occupation: JOINER Country Of Birth: Last Residence Country: UK Address: Ship Name: ROYAL GEORGE Ship Official Number: 125643 Ship Master's First Name: JAMES Ship Master's Surname: HARRISON Ship Master's Title: Shipping line: ROYAL LINE Departure Port: BRISTOL Ship Destination Port: HALIFAX Ship Destination Country: CANADA Ship Square Feet: 11603 Ship Registered Tonnage: 5685.11 Number Of Passengers: 1130
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Lawrence
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28 Aug 2012 09:35 |
Ah, thank you for the information you've provided me. I am on ancestry, but haven't had much contact with anyone I've connected to on there, even though I've sent messages to those tree owners. Just rotten luck there.
Again, thank you all for the information, it's very helpful indeed.
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PricklyHolly
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28 Aug 2012 09:45 |
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription First Name: L Last Name: FUGLER Title: MR Collections from: United Kingdom Category: Immigration & Travel Record collection: Migration Record set: Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Departure Day: 5 Departure Month: 8 Departure Year: 1921 Ship Departure Port: LIVERPOOL Destination Port: MONTREAL State: Country: CANADA Birth Day: Birth Month: Birth Year: 1889 Age Transcribed: 32 Marital Status: M Gender: M Occupation: CARPENTER Country Of Birth: Last Residence Country: UK Address: Ship Name: VICTORIAN Ship Official Number: 121216 Ship Master's First Name: H L Ship Master's Surname: WAITE Ship Master's Title: CPT Shipping line: CANADIAN PACIFIC Departure Port: LIVERPOOL Ship Destination Port: QUEBEC Ship Destination Country: CANADA Ship Square Feet: Ship Registered Tonnage: 6473 Number Of Passengers: 554
Last Address in UK...189 Paisley Street, Stoke, Devonport.
Travelling with...
Mrs L..........Housewife 31 Master R.....Child 6 Master L......Child 4 Master N..... Child 2
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