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Hi there folks. Please can you take a peek at this for me? Thought I would have a go at some old problems in my own tree for a change. I am stumped with this one, though the 1851 problems which I seem to recall might be responsible. But you never know, might just be me.

I am putting Constance first as she is the most unusual family member.


1841 England Census

Name: Constance Myatt
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Foreign Parts

Civil parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats

N K 60
N K 12
James Myatt 35
Constance Myatt 35
Amelia Myatt 14
Sigemand Myatt 10
Harriet Myatt 12
Maria Myatt 70



1861 England Census

Name: Constance Myatt
[Constance Pfender]
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Myatt
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheshire, England
[Switzerland]

Civil parish: Chorlton upon Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock

James Myatt 61 Where born: Birmingham
Constance Myatt 59
Harriette Myatt 27 Where born: Cheshire, England
Constance Myatt 8 Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Harriette Pfender 53
Hermann Becker 23
Robert Gangone 26
Mary Meller 25

Many thanks

Jan

:-P

presumably the son

Sigismond Myatt marries

Apr-May-Jun 1851

Manchester

Lancashire

Thanks Penny - must be him with a name like that, well spotted! So looks like they were in Manchester doesn't it - in which case if I remember rightly there is a problem with 1851? Might be a wild goose chase then.
Thanks for reply.
Jan

I am looking at the 1851 Jan, but I can't spot them...mind you if you can't find them I doubt anyone can :-D

You possibly have this for Harriette Pfender 1851


SCHRINER, Sarah P Head Unmarried F 44 1807 School Mistress
Blind Woolwich, Kent VIEW
SCHRINER, Mary E Sister Unmarried F 42 1809 School Mistress
Woolwich, Kent VIEW
SCHRINER, Wilhelmina Sister Unmarried F 40 1811 School Mistress
Chatham, Kent VIEW
PFENDER, Henrietta Assistant Unmarried F 43 1808 French Teacher
Switzerland VIEW
MORTON, Juliet Pupil Unmarried F 17 1834 Lady
Chipping Sudbury, Gloucestershire VIEW
MERCER, Ellen Pupil Unmarried F 17 1834 Scholar
Clitheroe, Lancashire VIEW
OXLEY, Isabella Pupil Unmarried F 16 1835 Scholar
Singapore Brit Sub VIEW
FOWLER, Alicia Pupil Unmarried F 15 1836 Scholar
London, Middlesex VIEW
BAYLY, Maria Pupil Unmarried F 13 1838 Scholar
Bath, Somersetshire VIEW
JAMES, Eugenia Pupil Unmarried F 13 1838 Scholar
Calcutta Brit Sub VIEW
BECKE, Minna Pupil Unmarried F 11 1840 Scholar
Worcester VIEW
OXLEY, Catherine Pupil Unmarried F 11 1840 Scholar
Malacca Brit Sub VIEW
ELLIS, Jane Pupil Unmarried F 10 1841 Scholar
London, Middlesex VIEW
BATES, Charlotte Servant Unmarried F 28 1823 Cook
Richmond, Surrey VIEW
BAKER, Sarah Servant Unmarried F 25 1826 House Maid
Christchurch, Hampshire VIEW
BAKER, Eliza Servant Unmarried F 18 1833 House Maid
Buryheleer, Hampshire VIEW

Piece: 1605

Folio: 275

Page: 9

Registration District: Richmond

Civil Parish: Richmond Surrey

Municipal Borough:

Address: Marshgate House, Marshgate Road, Richmond Surrey

County: Surrey

I didn't have it Lesley, thanks very much, but just to say - please don't make too much effort with the Pfenders, as James Myatt is a bit of a sideways step from our direct line, just tidying up the old tree!
Thanks for the comment RR, praise indeed from a seasoned campaigner such as yourself! :-D :-D

1851 census on FMP ???

MYALL, James Head Married M 51 1800 Engineer Birmingham VIEW
MYALL, Constance Wife Married F 49 1802 Litherland, Lancashire VIEW
MYALL, Rstemi Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Warehouse Man Litherland, Lancashire VIEW
MYALL, Harriet Dau Unmarried F 19 1832 Litherland, Lancashire VIEW
ROBINSON, Illegible Visitor Unmarried M 21 1830 Warehouse Man ?one, North? VIEW
MCGINNES, Alice Servant Unmarried F 13 1838 Domestic Servant Manchester VIEW

Piece: 2228
Folio: 0
Page: 0
Registration District: Manchester
Civil Parish: Manchester
Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Aytoun Street, Manchester
County: Lancashire

When I looked at the original document it is a typed one.

groom's name: Sigismond Myatt
bride's name: Emma Cotgreave
marriage date: 03 May 1851
marriage place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
indexing project (batch) number: M09789-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 438213, 438214, 438215, 438216, 438217

name: Constance Amelia Myatt
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 21 Jul 1852
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL,MANCHESTER,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: Sigismund Myatt
mother's name: Emma
indexing project (batch) number: C07354-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0438177, 0438178

Lynski - Rambling Rose will have to eat her words, you have cracked it! Thank you SO much, I would never have found them, in fact it's possible they are not on Ancestry at all.
Many thanks for the extra info re. Sigismond, bless him.
Well chuffed and much appreciated.
Jan
:-D :-D :-D <3

You're welcome!

As I mentioned earlier, the original is a typed one. When I hover over View Image it states it is a SYNTHESISED census image.

Rstemi is actually typed as ......rstemi.......

So, is this what has been done to retrieve the flood-damaged census reports? (Did a google search, I KNEW I remembered something!).
Jan

Very happy to eat my words :-D well done Lynski! :-D :-D

I'll second that!
Well done

Sappho

Maybe Lynski could apply her superpowers to this!

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1303092

Jan

Jan,
I am already onto it but no luck so far!
Looked every which way...............?